Published: 3 Mar 10 08:41 CET | Print version
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Swedes are in favour of the system of household services tax relief that the left-green opposition has declared it will abolish if it wins the autumn election, a new report shows.
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The social democrates somehow believes that certain jobs are "beneath dignity". But lets face it. No matter what, there is always someone that needs to pick up the trash, baby sit, clean houses. There is no escape from it. Removing RUT will only make these sectors go back to illegal immigrants that work under the table for slave wages. But I guess Mona Sahlin then thinks that these sectors are gone from the map by removing RUT. It is pretty much like the oestrich that puts its head in the sand.
This type of system doesn't create 7000 jobs in a positive way, but in a negative way. If you want to pay someone to clean up your own mess I see no reason why you should get a tax break for it?
Remove the RUT and clean your own mess.
I for one would like to know how the majority of the people cleaning houses feel about this. Perhaps they are happy to have work and it is a very positive thing for them.
Or maybe they are angry about working and want to be unemployed or get another job.
So if they dont want to clean houses then find another job. In order to do that you need to have an eductaion. And if you do have an education then the RUT system is not at fault. Perhaps some sort of descrimination for getting a different job is the problem.
Obviously the RUT system created a demand for a particular service and in turn created a demand for jobs.
And you get the whole supply and demand thing going on. Nothing wrong with Jobs.
Also people with Money usually worked hard to get it. I dont have much money but Im working hard and I think that one day I can have enouph that I can hire someone to clean my house.
RoyceD, I think you're too narrow-minded, and perhaps a bit envious, dare I say? Shouldn't people who work hard for their money have the right to choose how to spend it? If they choose to spend it to get some help at home instead of a couple of weeks vacation in Thailand, who are we to criticize? I wish that I could afford to have help cleaning my house and garden. Seeing as I have 12-hour work days, I would appreciate a little time to myself and my family instead of spending my entire weekends cleaning and doing the laundry, garden work, etc.
I know countries that don't have a system like this and the informal "labor" market is huge. That's a lot of taxes that are not being reported because an entire labor sector has gone underground. Not to mention abusing the laborers with slave wages that are offered.
What the proponents of the RUT's demise fail to understand is that it will not achieve anything positive. The fact is those families requiring assistance can only pay so much. So either hourly rates will fall generally, or people will cut back on their usage (these two things amount to the same thing); or, worst, the BLACK MARKET labor market will get a boost, removing thousands from the system.
This is a case of ideology getting in the way of practicality --- and seems to me to be a throwback to 1970s idealism.
It is plainly wring that if a company employs someone that company can deduct the costs form my topline, yet if I do the same as an individual, I may not be allowed any deduction.
And the abolitionists justification? That the money generated can be spent elsewhere? That assumes the level of spending on such services by individuals will continue at the same level (as set out above, it probably wont, because the individuals employing the service providers have a finite income). So in the end, what will likely happen is that the would-be individual employers will suffer, the service providers will suffer, and the government will be holding less tax receipts than they thought.
But moreover, why can a company deduct employment costs from topline, whereas an individual is not able to? What is food for the goose is food for the gander. Either one or the other but not both. Thus, the idea to abolish has no logical tenure.
Anybody who knows the prices out there? We have to think about the numbers cos if the difference is only a few coins, I wouldn't stop driving to work and take the bus at -20C if the petrol goes up just 1 or 2SEK / L.
If I pay a baby sitter so I can go to work, I have to be getting at least x3 the baby sitter's or it wouldn't be worthy. Guessing that the baby sitter gets enough to live ok (10000SEK min), you get about 30000SEK and if I got all that, I wouldn't mind paying 2000 more. Cos it'd be like buying a Rolls Royce and moan about the fuel. If the baby sitter gets less than 10k, that job should not even exist in 1st place.
Rich people can and will pay it anyway. The difference would be for people who can or cannot afort a claen up once per week, but I think the ones on that very border would preffer saving the money or drinking it one way or the other.