May 26, 2012
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The Swedish government has announced that from August 1st it will no longer be permitted to favour prospective university students by virtue of their gender.
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For me the big problem is what proportion of women get into senior posts. I think Sweden is probably pretty good (haven't looked at the data in detail) but it's probably 50%+ women as first year students and 20%- women at professor level.
First thought I have, and I can be totally wrong about this, but wouldn't a solution be to accept an equal amount of male and female students? Or even proportional to existing population?
In my class in University we were 44, from those only 2 were male. My degree was licenciat in Public Relations.
Marketing also had a higher percent of female students.
First thought I have, and I can be totally wrong about this, but wouldn't a solution be to accept an equal amount of male and female students? Or even proportional to existing population?
This is what has now been made illegal - Universities were attempting to rectify gender imbalances but in the case mentioned it meant that some applicants were discarded just for being women..........
One woman had applied to vet school and had incurred substantial student loans to study sciences etc and then found that her application was never even considered because she was a woman
Are you sure it wasn't because of low marks? Or was the vet school in Saudi Arabia? We have all kinds of female vet students in Canada without affirmative action quotas, maybe even over 50%, so I find what you're saying very difficult to believe, assuming you're referring to a Swedish vetrinarian school?
The present social setting discourages girls from studying science. Recently I met a girl who was top in her class in mathematics in secondary school. She told me that she was planning to study economics in the university for the reason that science is not for girls. "it is too difficult", she said. To study economics she needs maths, but the maths requirement is much below the capability of this girl.
If girls are disproportionately under represented in the science field, the policy should assist girls to study science. This should start from primary school. This policy should not prevent individual choices. If you do not do that some of the best brains will be wasted for nothing.
Duh. I should have read that more closely.
How many times were men denied places in Engineering and Business because of THEIR gender.
Fortunately your twisted kind of thinking is exactly what is now left by the government.
For my better understanding of the background of this, I'd like to know when affirmative action was introduced for universities (by the Swedish government presumably). What were the arguments then? What has changed in the meantime so that now it is withdrawn?
Might anyone have a good link for example to an archived newspaper article about the 'history'?
I have a suspicion that I might find that affirmative action was introduced to avoid discrimination against women. However, it was phrased in law in a gender-neutral way. Now it seems that men profit from it for university subjects traditionally dominated by women. This is not accepted and the rule abolished.
Or was it different? Just curious if my suspicion is right.
Affermative action is a terrible thing.
@eddie123 - are you really saying that 25% of a person's ability should be based on geographical area or gender.
Affirmative action = Giving someone preference over other just because of gender, race, ethnicity even when the standards are not met.