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Some needs to explain to me how a bomb placed in public, for the express purpose of destuction and murder is deemed as "negligent endangerment ".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huntingdon_Life_Sciences
to spread to Sweden.
If the police can not deal with it now, they need to bring in people who can stop it before it gets out of control, which it will.
Otherwise, it seems..just another day in Malmö
Dynamite is not semtex.
Dynamite is used for civilian blasting purposes, such as roadworks and mining.
Semtex is used by the military.
If Semtex was used the response would be very different and significantly more direct.
So what? Get a life
That's fine as a point of view as long as you then take it to the logical conclusion and refuse any medication that has been tested on animals when you are ill. And I even mean seriously ill, like "going to die unless you take the medication which was trialled on 50 mice". To be completely consistent, you should also require your loved ones and immediate family to adhere to this choice. Anything else just makes you a hypocrite.
And to be honest, if that information is readily available on medication bottles / warnings by doctors.... for example, i would stand by my conviction.
The information actually is readily available but I am not sure you will like it. ALL medication has at some point been tested on animals. It is a legal requirement before you can move on to testing on humans (which is a legal requirement before you can sell it to humans).
I suggest refining your conviction to reject only "needless" and "unnecessarily cruel" animal testing, e.g. tests that could just as well be carried out in vitro (e.g. with just cell cultures or blood samples) or even in computer simulations. This can for instance be testing for certain toxic reactions. Relying more and more on such methods reduces the amount of necessary animal testing plus it reduces the amount of testing that actually results in horrible pain/death of the animal.
But at some point, you're going to have to verify that the drug that you think is safe based on computer simulations really does fulfill that criterion - some animal testing will always happen. The hope (and aim of researchers in the field) thus has to be that all the preceding tests eventually become so good that the final tests cause as little suffering as possible for the animals.
Animal testing is carried out with great respect and care to the animals and ultimately reduces human suffering. Take the drug Rituximab: Over 1.5 million patients have received this life-saving cancer therapy, vastly outweighing the number of mice sacrificed during its development (over 99% of animals used are mice). Animal testing saves lives - and not just human lives. Vetinary treatments for animals follow from procedures developed in human medicine.
They should be screaming at the police and politicians to take whatever steps necessary to fix these problems because it's soon going to get way out of hand.
@teslar: If the suffering is so minor to animals, why not test on humans directly? Much more accurate and you can kind of say we rule out the middleman, or more correctly, the middle-animal.
@smartie: Who paid you to say that? Seriously! If it is so ethical and without cruelty, why not skip the animal testing and go direct to human testing so we can get quicker and more accurate results?
In the rest of the world it is not unusual security officers operate in cahoots with criminal gangs, e.g., Mexico with drug cartels and US with the Mafia to mention a few, while in Sweden it is unusual. In dictatorial countries' security officers concentration is on the preservation of the shaky or criminal state, e.g., most of Africa.
Since the discovery of DNA testing, some lucky prisoners in the US (depending upon the state) were exonerated from the crime that they were charged and served several years of prison terms
It is true that there are ethical requirements and great effort is taken to minimize suffering. If a study does not go as expected and animals suffer they are sacrificed as quickly as possible.
Invitro testing is increasing but cannot replace many types of the required studies.
Oh it's not just mice either, but mice make up more than 50%.. Mice are not good models for comparing to human in all cases. I worked in a facility with over 25,000 animals. This included >1000 non-human primates (monkeys) and >1000 dogs. There were pigs, rabbits, guinea pigs, sheep, cats etc etc... All of these animals are eventually sacrificed.
That is the way it is and will continu during our lifetime.
How about corruption problems in Russia, Eastern Europe, China and, I get the feeling, Sweden. Or Italy! - now that I think of it pretty much all of Europe.
Maybe it's just socialist thinking - 2 years of prison for anyone suspected of a crime. guilty or not, seems fair.