Imam charged with sex offences

This is one of the few areas where I actually grudgingly agree with Sarkozy, training and regulation of Imams must be under state supervision, as in Turkey. The haphazard way in which the Koran is taught in most EU countries places our children at unnecessary risk and such criminal incidents are all too common.

Well at least in this case the parents believed the victim. With Catholics people only believed the priest and never the victim.

I wont be suprised if the imam says that his actions is in line with the writings of his holy book. Marrying of children as early as 8 yrs is alllowed in islam. A girl of 8 year unsuccefully tried to get a divorce from her husband that was 48yrs in Saudi Arabia last year. We can sue catholic priest here but in some middle east countries children forced into marriagechildrlady have to seek divourse or pay the man back

He should rot in jail.

UInfortunately in Sweden, jail will be like a holiday for him. That needs to change.

Tutu, follow up on that case. the girl is 'successfully' divorced now. besides, it's not the age that decides when the girl should marry, but her maturation measured by the onset of menarch. sick, indeed, since many girls especially in hot countries reach menarch by the age of 12. and few as early as 9.

Uncle, terrorists are a manifistation of most (but not all) religions.

I am glad that all religions are being exposed one after the other. no faith can make a person superior than another. it's how you respect other human beings that make you a good person.

1) It is VERY interesting to see how Europeans lie and claim that the West is the land of freedom and democracy, But how come they do not give Muslims rights??? Example: if they (Europeans) allowed running proper Islamic-Schools we would have saved (Or at least reduced significantly) children abuse from the freak-animals. (Huh??? There are: Jewish-Schools in Helsinki, Hindu-Schools in the Netherlands, Buddhism- Schools in Denmark….etc. BUT Islam NO!!! Europeans adore fighting it and its followers by all means. That is the European freedom!).

2) It is VERY interesting to see how the police are getting involved in this case. But the Christians' cases are handled by religious people inside the churches.

Huh? Arab countries such as: Jordan (Which never, ever claimed that they are democratic country or they have any kind of freedoms as the West does) we can see that the Christians there have their own organizations and they handle their stuff by their own (Marriage, Divorce, ….etc). But for example: poor Muslims in Germany who they claim they have freedoms, you will see how Germans force Muslims to follow their parliamentary coalition's law (Huh? It is called: Christian Democratic Union (CDU) - Not even, Secular Democratic Union!!!) party's law in Marriage, Divorce…etc ….. YEAH This is Europe!

Of course, the honest people among you trolls can go on with this list for ever, But the truth of the matter is: most of you are hypocrites!

@Tutu #3

You bloody lumpen! Don't dig the hole too deep.

@Nemesis #4

"jail will be like a holiday for him"

Your comment is entirely correct. But on the other hand, Don't you see how Islam and Muslims are really fair???

If that freak-animal (Imam) was caught in Saudi Arabia or Kandahar... what will happen to him? I guess many would agree that what will happen to him there is really fair and he deserves it.

@Deema #5

"I am glad that all religions are being exposed one after the other."

What a ridiculous and oafish argument?

Now, This freak-animal (Imam) is presenting whole meaning of Islam? Or are they few freak-animals (Christians priests) presenting whole meaning of Christianity?

Alas, It is pointless to reeducate you or the like.

Nordic prince, there are Muslim schools in Sweden.

@deema:

If a believer of a certain religion commits a crime, does it mean that the religion allows it? If you do not have the guts to follow religion then please do not do a wrong propaganda against the whole religion. You are probably making a lame excuse for your own freedom-mongering when you do that.

Don't forget, in Islam the law for such a lewd person is not just 'Jail in Sweden'...

@nordic prince

I have never heard about hindu schools in the netherlands, but there are many islamic schools.

For people who are unable to read, i repeat once and for all:

No faith can make a person superior than another. it's how you respect other human beings that make you a good person.

and for those who are unable to understand, here's what it means:

Being an imam, priest, whatever.. using your faith to climb up doesn't make someone superior or deserving of any trust. but when you respect all humans even without a faith in a god. then you are a good person.

#NordicPrince

I think it would be fair to observe that when other religions are free from persecution in Arab lands, your argument for 'religious rights' in Western countries would have more credibility.

What,precisely,this has to do with this article,however, remains something of a mystery to me. I thought the article was about the rights of children to be free from abuse from adults. Though I can see that such a concept may well be hard to grasp in Arab lands as it has been hard to grasp in the West until recent years.

you all understand - and this is the way sweden will go one day - if this had been done in say Iran or SA, then the GIRL would go to jail not the imam.

That is islam for you!

He should be tried according to Sharia law. Cut off his hands or something and castrate him.

@Twiceshy - "...if this had been done in say Iran or SA, then the GIRL would go to jail not the imam. That is islam for you!"

LOL

I just had to say, I am reading these posts and then this one gave me a good chuckle. Oh, the irony!

I was just talking to my daughter about this very fact (how the female victim is punished in those countries and cultures).

I was also reading how abuse perpetrated by the imums seems to be common in islamic schools.

Twiceshy, EXACTLY!!!

However, if it was only groping, and the family learned about it, they'd only be happy if the Imam married the little girl eventually and this won't make news FOR SURE. it brings shame to the family.

But, if it had been full penetration (losing of virginity), then the imam will accuse the girl of tempting him. he will be killed anyway by a family member as to avenge honor but no one will know. and the girl will go to jail and receive some hundred lashes. after human rights get involved and the media and all, everyone will forget about the imam anyway! and the girl will probably be freed two years later because of some royal favor and everyone will think it's a victory and praise the law and the king! but the girl is forever shunned from society!

two days later, we will read about the hero who proposes publicly to marry the girl and do her a favor by saving her from shame and misery. but this guy is already married to 3 other women and this is just another addition to his collection with a good cause!

I am not guessing all this. I KNOW!

@nordic prince ..

funny you're obviously ! not nordic .. not a prince ..

I can't follow your logic at all but if Europe is so bad for you why don't you go somewhere else .. The world is big ..

Let's do the world a favor and teach human beings for free!

@eppie #9

"I have never heard about hindu schools in the Netherlands"

Since the Humanity has started, Ignorance wasn't an excuse. Anyways, for the sake of argument go and read about the Netherlands (Or should I call them "The Diamonds' thieves - South Africa"), and you will find out that, there are at least SIX Hindu-Schools in Rotterdam, Amsterdam, Utrecht and The Hague. (Ref: http://www.hindujagruti.org/news/5643.html && YouTube "watch?v=x8709uYIwfE").

@Keith #11

Blind goons and elements like you lack the minimum level of logic to connect the dots between freedom, rights and human beings life.

I am a person who is very proud to be from Sami-People (I hold Finnish and Swedish citizenships!) I and my people suffered of political, economical and cultural oppression in our own land (In both: Finland and Sweden).

When everyday racism in Finland is examined one cannot forget how Sami people have been treated and especially how that treatment has been kept secret from the general public. Telling people about Sami people's experiences is even now very exceptional and it is possible that the Finns' centuries old, or even a thousand year old battle against the Sami, their oppression and unequal treatment and keeping all this a secret. The culturally oppressed status of the Sami people is not just in the past but present as well. An example of this e.g. the fact the Sami children were unable to start school in our own language until 1992.

Without my parents I would have lost my mother tongue. For example in Canada and New Zealand vast areas of land are being returned to the ownership of indigenous people. There are no signs of similar activity in Finland, even though we have made same kind of suggestions, but no body cared about us. Well, yeah Sweden and its brother or sister (Finland) really care about human rights!

Most recently, The Finnish-Swedish politician Astrid Thors (Minister of Migration and European Affairs) completely rejected the proposal of creating Islamic-School in Finland.

Now, I see everyday a VERY unfair treatment for Muslims in all aspects of life. I don't accept that under whatsoever circumstances because I know how it feels to be treated wrongly.

@Deema & @Twiceshy

You are pathetic element, I truly pity you!

@Keith #5083 Comment no. 11

"I think it would be fair to observe that when other religions are free from persecution in Arab lands"

Obviously, you are illiterate-moron.

I will dumb down the issue to your level of intellect. If Saudi Arabia or any other Arab land claimed and lie that they are democratic countries and they have religious freedom (As the WEST does!!!), then, YES, we can blame them.

But we never ever heard that any Arab countries said we are democratic or we have freedom. Simply, they are honest people. They are dictators and they don't lie.

It is only the Western World and its people who perfected the art of lying. They claim things which aren't true. I am sick and tired of hearing and reading lies everyday that Finland is ranked number ONE in human prosperity or lies about freedom in France or Germany or Switzerland. Let's just be honest!

I find it funny that i need to dumb it down this much for him because he obviously doesn't understand ¨sane people talk¨ i.e facts

Muslims have schools, mosques, hallal stores, women covered in rags, welfare and what not!

About the 6 schools one can read here http://www.islamiskaskolor.se/

Still they demand more schools and more mosques.

They have 3 organizations:

Förenade Islamiska Församlingar i Sverige (FLIFS).

Sveriges Muslimska Förbund (SMF).

Islamiska Centerunionen (ICUS).

All are getting money from the government.

Muslims collectively physically attack Jews all over Europe just for wearing yamaka.

http://www.policyarchive.org/bitstream/handle/10207/18272/Arab%20and%20Muslim%20Anti-Semitism%20in%20Sweden.pdf

They ban switching of muslim religion in most muslim countries. Western women in Dubai and Iran must follow the local laws of dress and behaviour. Expat women in Emirates cannot open a bank account without an accompany of men.

Even in the UN compounds (surrounded by walls) some of the dress codes are enforced for women.

Christian population of "wonderful" Jordan is shrinking. Syrian christians are running away.

Lebanese Christians are leaving in thousands, while the Druze population is armed to their teeth to defend themselves from the raging muslims.

Muslims are anything but tolerant, so it is embarassing even listening about the "fair" muslim countries.

Gays are banned by law in most muslim countries.

Its funny how when it comes to an imam, police got on the case..when it comes to priests, Silence!! we are raping! one can obviously see that a lot of enthusiastic haters-stabbers have been desparately waiting for this kind of stories to happen..

@ DamnImmigrant: "abuse perpetrated by the imums seems to be common in islamic schools."..and can you please explain to us what your lovely brave heart priests have been doing in churches to those innocent kids?? at least in the case of this imam, the whole story was reported quickly to the police...not like in the case of priests where the church has been hiding facts all this time..!!

Keep an eye on your daughter ..today you are telling her stories, tomorrow when she will start going to school and churches she will be telling shocking stories..!!

@Uncle

I'm a Swedish psychiatrist, and I have helped out a lot of retarded elements like you to live better. So, I strongly recommend you to come to my clinic to treat you for free. I swear I never offered free treatment for any of my patients but your case is serious.

Read carefully my comment # 18 - It answers all your lies.

Once again, Arab countries never "claimed" that they are tolerant or democratic or they freedom. Therefore, it is only imbeciles-and-idiots will argue that why Taliban doesn't treat women the way Europeans want? Simply the answer is: We have never heard Hakimullah Mehsud (Taliban's Leader) filled his mouth with lies (Like Europeans) and said: "We in Afghanistan give women full rights the way Europeans wants".

Simple rule: DON'T blame someone never claim anything. You only have the right to blame the lairs who claim that they do and they didn't.

BTW, I was in Dubai in 2006 and Muslims there were nice and generous to me, they showed me shops that sell pork that only had been imported to please Europeans.

Tutu , You must read first and know what is the difference between TRADITIONS and TRLIGION in the case of the 8 years old in Saudi Arabia happened in a place in a rural area in the south and you must KNOW that The Quran and ISLAM do not say that a child is allowed to get married . its is a TRADITION in some extreme places in the islamic countries . TRY TO READ BEFOR GIVING A JUDJEMENT . PLEASE

Dont Criticize on islam,

if muslim do mistake than its big problem all over the world.

if church bishop in germany and sweden rape the CHILD than this is no problem.

your only sitting to open ur mouth and start to say against muslims and islam...

Marko,

You are not a psychologist. "Retarded" has not been used in the profession for years. I challenge you to find "retarded" in your DSM.

Belgium has just banned the burka. France is doing the same. Geert Wilders is the most popular politician in the Netherlands. The English Defence League in the UK is getting bigger and bigger. Islam days are counted in Europe. Stop immigration from Islamic countries, stop building mosques, deport all criminal Muslims (an oxymoron) and Europe will be a much better place. I don't care about what the pathetic Nazi Muslims here on the Local whine about, they are always whining. The message is, if you wanna see the ragheads out of Europe, support the SIOE movement, donate to Geert Wilders, vote for the UKIP in the United Kingdom, support the EDL (all those organisations are easily found on the internet). There are many ways to help this growing movement.

@calebian22

First of all, You need zillion light years to reach my great level of knowledge, educations and manners.

Second of all, Aren't you the ignorant-fool who always make fun out of himself ???

(I urge everyone to go to: " http://www.thelocal.se/26194/20100421/ " Read comments (#15, #17, #18, #20, #21) Let's all laugh at him - he wasted his energy arguing that Yemen is in Africa :) ) --- I guess that's explains why you didn't comment on the article or the ideas. Obviously, you hate me because I and others enjoy laughing at your stupidity!

You see why you need zillion light years to reach my great level of knowledge, educations and manners?

First, you have to learn some Geography (Asia, Africa...etc).

Second, you have to be taught good manners by good people.

Third, you must learn how to talk politely to people who are better than you!

Finally, when you grow up, request people politely to challenge you.

I think I give you good tips to start a good life you loser!

This not issue of Islam.....this just gives us a message that "take care of your children, as good parents", this can and has happened in all religions and non-religious societies. What about that Austrian Father who prisoned his daughter for 18 years and raped her and had 3 children from her. He was also from EUROPE and christian.....so, do not post sick comments by criticising one particulr religion or community, because we have to protect our children from all dangers, independent of any religious or community affiliations.

This rape has nothing to do with Islam.. This is a case of a sick fuqk who used his power and status to abuse inocent children's.

Marko,

You are caught in an obvious lie, that you are a psychologist, but somehow me including Yemen a near East muslim country in a discussion about Somalia a neighbor country across the gulf of Aden, (such dissimilar peoples and cultures) somehow makes you less of a liar.

If you are truly a psychologist, name your clinic, so Keith can get the help you think he needs. If not, stop showing your insecurity by pretending to be something you are not.

he was just doing what his ¨holy book¨ taught him to do and following the actions of his pedophile prophet ..i am surprised he doesn't use the freedom of religion defense. it works in all the other Muslim countries.. Sweden is 1/2 way there now so i might work!

All religions subdue women ....This is an issue of a man or more exactly about millions of MEN who have deeply distorted and unhealthy ideas about manhood, women and gender equality.

l think pple in sweden should be taught what is sex and not sex. some pple even if you touch them they think its sex, wen u knock her or him accidentaly its sex.. bullshit. pple just want to put that word in there mouth sex awlays

@calebian22

I swear to God that you are one of the biggest morons on this planet!

Who said anything about treating Keith ???

In my comment #21 I was offering free-service to treat @Uncle NOT @Keith. I was educating @Keith but I think he doesn't need treatment.

Anyways, keep on proving to the entire world that you are lonely, drunk and uneducated. I have no time nor rspect for you!

Fark had the best headline for this

"Swedish Imam charged with impersonating Muhammed"

Fark Islam.

@Lautreamont

thank you,i don think iv ever agreed with someone on here as much as what you said. Europe is in trouble, Belgium, France, Holland and the UK are starting to realize it and start fighting back..when will Sweden grow a pair and do the same...

@nordic prince

you talk about all these special rights Muslims should have..look out your window,do you see sand ?? this is not one of those deserts you came from..this is a Christian nation/continent ,not Muslim..you shouldn't get any special rights for Muslims here.if you do not like it leave,you came here by your own free will. you are expected to adopt our lifestyle and blend in,not us change to suit yours. changing 1 law in a western country to suit Muslims( or any other religion) is wrong. you rant on about democracy and freedoms.. but they are there for us Christians of European decent,not you outsiders that come here and try to change us and slowly take over,then call racism when you dont get your way,its not racism its nationalism. it seems like its just 1 thing after another Muslims ask for at the expense of European culture,what next sharia law?? oh right they already ask for that...assimilation and islam are like oil and water

Marko,

So name your clinic so Uncle, not Keith, can get his treatment. Calling me a moron doesn't help Uncle. Apparently he could benefit greatly from your infinite wisdom and experience in the psychological field. Your calm demeanor and patience is obviously something to aspire too.

By the way, is "moron" also one of your diagnostic definitions? A moron and a retard can't be so different in your Cracker Jack DSM. Maybe I should make an appointment as well?

In Canada, a psychologist is a PHD while a psychiatrist is a medical doctor who has done a psychiatric speciality. Is it the same in Sweden?

At any rate, its quite apparent that Marko is neither.

What? Another thread that rapidly switched from the topic at hand to a balls-to-the-walls fight about racism and religion again?? And ended with the people calling each other names???

Wow...this is unusual for TL, very unusal indeed.

::sighs::

Perhaps one day people will discover that regardless of race or religion, bad people do bad things. Just like bad apples will rott, no matter what barrel they are in. Doesn't mean all apples are bad, and I believe it's safe to say that when a bad apple is located, it should be removed from the barrel of society immediately and it's batch should be watched closely for a while to make sure there are no other bad apples that put the rest at risk. Capiche?

Oh no....wait...did I just make myself sound like a fruit racist!??? Will the apples sue me?? Okay okay, I meant oranges. No wait, coconut! No wait, banana! Oh crap...I suppose I need psychotherapy now.

::again, sighs::

@Deema

Your language says one thing loud: You have been brought up in a lewd society.

@here for the summer #16

"I can't follow your logic at all"

Once again, Since the Humanity has started, Ignorance wasn't an excuse. It isn't my fault that you're stupid!

@Marko2010S #21

That is so deep and accurate !

The motto of the French Republic is "Liberty, Equality, Fraternity" (Liberté, Equalité, Fraternité). But now we see that they are lairs all the way!

They prevent Muslims women to wear Niqab, moreover, they punish them with fines (Maybe soon with Jail!). Equality here is very clear according to the French-standards!

There is NO difference between Italy, France, Belgium and Taliban.

Taliban: forces women to wear clothes or they will be punished.

Italy, France and Belgium: force women to take off clothes or they will be punished.

Huh… wait? Italy, France and Belgium are lairs because they claim things. But Taliban isn't.

BTW, your other comments are freakin' hilarious. I love how you taught the goof @calebian22 manners :)

@CanadianInSweden #35

I really have no time to waste it with worthless elements like you.

"they are there for us Christians of European"

Precisely that is the point fool! Muslims in Europe have no rights.

BTW, you can read my other comments and you will know where I come from idiot!

you missed my point...no muslims SHOULD NOT HAVE SPECIAL RIGHTS!!!!! you are in OUR ,CHRISTIAN COUNTRY! why should we bend over backwards to accommodate you,you are the OUTSIDER! this is not your country,nor will ever be,if you dont like our laws and lifestyle LEAVE,no one is forcing to you stay...if you want your women covered, sharia law and to molest children go back to the desert where u belong,we will both be much happier then

I have no comment other that to state that psychiatrists who call people retards need help themselves.

Hey...something is missing here...the Hindus and the Buddhists don't carry firearms inside their SUVs...

There are some commenting here who's fundamentalist bias is showing. Indeed, so fundamentalist are they that they ignore The Koran (Q'ran) shura 2:236.

There is no credibility in associating the oppression of some other 'minority group' with the mesoginist behaviour of male-dominated traditions in defense of a religion whose core values do NOT espouse such behaviour.

The point of my earlier comment about the intolerance of Islamic countries towards other religions is simply - goonish as this may appear to some fringe elements - that it contradicts the shura quoted above and therefore contradicts The Q'ran.. It therefore follows that such intolerance is, in fact, un-Islamic and that accords with my experience of Islamic people across the globe whom I have found, generally, to be beautiful,peace loving and tolerant people..

I can understand,however, that any knowledge of the Koran by a non-islamic person may be considered 'moronic or goonish' by those who choose to turn the issue of the abuse of this child into some cause celebre about religious rights in western countries.

When Islam can be true to itself it can expect to be respected and honoured. Until then goons such as me will continue to draw irrational attention from those who do not know their own religion.

I have noticed a lot of cases in the UK where muslim teachers and Imams have been jailed for sex offences against their pupils, so by no means is this an area exclusive to the Catholic church.

canadianinsweden.........being a christian, when i came to sweden i was so happy while regarding it as a christian country....but later i learned that Swedes completely distance themselves from christianity....correct ur understanding about this issue otherwise you'll get f-ked in a gathering if u ever said like this :) just a friendly suggestion, because young swedes just hate label of christianity, which is unfortunate.

Ehmmmmm NEWS FLASH !!! Along the lines of #45, I'd like to reiterate what I wrote in comment #38 adn add that sex crimes are not exclusive to ANY religion PERIOD. They are related to a sick, twisted, depraved and often-times enabled mind no matter WHAT religion these people do or don't belong to. Teachers of BOTH religious AND secular schools do this. Family members do it to their own children. Randoms do it to randoms. It is an unfortunate mistake that people EVER thought this was correlated to religion (catholicism, etc) to begin with! The media LOVES to feed you all what you are so hungry for, and right now the world hates religion, so the media hypes up religious sex crime. Do you think this never existed before? People - both religious and secular - have been doing this since the dawn of time. THESE PEOPLE ARE BAD APPLES thru and thru, no matter what race or creed they belong to! Stop labeling IN GENERAL and start looknig at this from an individual (or socially-enabled) problem!

With regard to comment #41, I tend to rightfully agree with you on that one thru and thru. At the same time... #46 has a point. It's just a really sad sad world we live in today.

@All

Many of you have no place mentioning Democracy, Human Rights, Respect and Freedoms. So, don't waste your time or our time by pretending that you do.

@DidiE #42

Simply I'm honest NOT lair as you!

My patients are retarded. They are not healthy. I can't help it if God, nature or life makes like that.

@Nordic Prince

I beleive that now things are very clear!

Finally those trolls (Specifically: @Keith & @CanadianInSweden) admit the truth literally that Islam and its followers have no rights at all and it shouldn't be respected.

@All

All in all, no matter how much you hate Muslims, they will stay in Europe and live inside it. Also, check this out, soon they will be the majority in some places.

"Marko2010s

I believe what I pointed out was that Islam is a religion of respect but in some areas, fundamentalists especially, attempts are made to make it something else. In that event it is they themselves that destroy the true beauty of Islam and deny the rights inherent in The Koran. In a similar way it is the lack of respect for the rights of children by the Catholic Church (not to mention going totally against the words of Christ) that has caused that denomination to lose respect throughout the world.

However, I can understand that you did not understand this point. I consider it a compliment to be called a troll by you - whether in the internet sense or the Nordic mythological sense. I respect your view. Many thanks.

He did nothing wrong..Its by his book..

and in muslim Afghanistan had this happened - then the imam would have tossed acid on the little girl and maybe had her killed!

this is true islam - soon it will the law in sweden. get ready mohamed johanson

@Sam Le Bon - "... DamnImmigrant: "abuse perpetrated by the imums seems to be common in islamic schools." ..and can you please explain to us what your lovely brave heart priests ..."

Dear SAM, I was pointing out that this is OLD news. There seems to be a lot of abuse in islamic schools, which is what DOUBLE CONCERTO was pointing out too! AND YES! much of the abuse in islamic schools is covered up just as it is with many other religions. This one made the news because the parents went to the police first!

Not sure what you mean by "YOUR? lovely brave heart priests". Who's "your"? And why are you so focused on the priests? Like MJENNIN2 has pointed out it is found throughout the human race! I have seen these types of reports from the various Christian Sects, Jewish Sects and islamic sects. I have not seen them from the Buddhist, Hindu, Zoroaster, Wiccan, Jainist or Taoist groups BUT I know it happens there as well.

@Sam Le Bon - "Keep an eye on your daughter ..today you are telling her stories, tomorrow ... she will be telling shocking stories..!!"

Again not sure where you are coming from here. Stories as in fantasy or as in FACT?

The fact is that my daughter has already turned in a report on islam that truly did SHOCK her teachers. The very teachers who were supposed to be teaching islam, knew NOTHING about it's "profit". So when my daughter's report described islam's "profit" as a rapist, murderer, thief, assassin, torturer and those many other deviant qualities that its followers worship as the perfect behavior of the perfect man, I and my wife got a phone call from the school. It took me about an hour to show these "teachers" that everything in my daughters report was true. My daughter was very nervous about her report but she got one of those MVG's. I demanded they start teaching the truth about islam but they said they had to teach the "approved" line.

MARKO2010S reminds me of the axiom that "a civilized man can act like a barbarian but a barbarian (Marko) cannot act like a civilized man." (Dr. Marko, - refer to my profile)

@peropaco - "...rape has nothing to do with Islam..."

I have a problem with this since it was their profit himself who approved of and practiced rape. Sorry if it upsets some people who do not know this, but it IS a statement of fact from their own history!

@Sjayna - "All religions subdue women ...This is an issue of a man or ...MEN..."

Like I tell people that make such blanket statements about "ALL RELIGIONS", you need to get out more! I understand that you have a limited knowledge of religions but there ARE definitely religions out there that DO NOT subdue women.

I also would like you to understand that this is NOT just about MEN because there are also WOMEN out there with equally unhealthy sexual attitudes.

@lilplatinum - "...Swedish Imam charged with impersonating Muhammed..."

LOL - Thanks, got another chuckle out of that too.

Marko - a great psychiatrist! One could feel the professional language and the irrefutable arguments.

Leave alone that you are obviously a liar in regards to your profession, but a rude, uneducated blue collar (if you have a job at all). As Nordic Prince also...

According to your logic - if someone that is not tolerant and does not CLAIM to be tolerant - it is OK.

However, if someone is TRYING to be as tolerant as possible towards muslims who flood Europe in millions and try to make their own rules, and IS actually more tolerant than the muslims, whose maximum of tolerance is importing pork for foreigners, but sometimes indeed slips and bans these crazy burkas or says something against grooming of extremists here - is worse than the head cutting, gay hanging, women stoning, child marrynig muslims.

(lets see if you even understood the long sentence above).

You know what - I freaking AGREE.

SD is doing precisely that and it is about time that the entire EU told the muslims in the FACE that they should live by EU rules or they are welcome to get back to the plain. Ticket on EU.

is it any wonder there will never peace on earth......

If extremists of criminal nature exist in the world, how can one expect Peace. Look at US , it is supporting Israel openly. Israel occupied palestine and they keep smothering, buthering, and ruffling Palestinians with WMDs and what not... but US and EU is still having the gall to veto anything against Israel...moreover How dare the US and EU demand to reduce Nuclear arsenal on behalf of the whole world....Look at its own record...Its US who bombed Japan.. It US who who have the deadliest nuclear arsenal...Its US and EU in Iraq, Afghanistan, and the list is long.. Obviously this attitude yields a logical reaction in the shape of Al-Qaeda and Talban.. Then wat is the US or Europe complaining about? God damn them !

Let me make it clear that anybody who teaches Arabic language is not called " an Imam" I wonder if he is really an Imam in the mosque or just a regular hunter?

But whoever he is he should be punished so it would be lesson for others.

Its the character that makes a human thick, not religion, occupation nor where he comes from.

@marko,

an expat woman can open a bank account without a man at her side!

I thought you were in Dubai. U should have known better!!

In some arab countries, there are even designated lines for women only, which are faster and served as well by women reps.

Men even let women pass first and never have to bring their own groceries shopping. Why? Because the women gets priority VIP treatment in these places :)

True there are some human concept with Moslem that I dont agree.. such as the right having more than 1 wife, just because the prophet did it.

Middle East is a continent with own cultures, there was a reason why Islam and other religions was brought by prophet there. Never associate a religion with a culture, though it is affecting one another.

Its the character that makes a human thick, not religion, occupation nor where he comes from.

I just dont like a person who hides himself under a religion cover but has own secret mission.

DamnImmigrant, oh sorry, I will be more precise ; ALL OF THE MAJOR RELIGIONS SUBDUE WOMEN. Please,look at the statistics,child sexual abuse, sexual/physical crimes, porn industry, prostitution etc...Is it too difficult to find out the connection between gender and the crimes/demand?! To learn to understand you simply have to obey...

Uncle, SD emphasizes collective identity, Christian ethics...An undemocratic party like SD should never have the right to told me or somebody else how to live...How can you support that kind of sh*t? I recommend you to check http://www.sverigedemokraterna.de/...A site which response objectively to SDs singleminded arguments.

Oh Nordic Princess take a chill pill. Insulting people won't give you any bonus points.

"For example in Canada and New Zealand vast areas of land are being returned to the ownership of indigenous people."

And how long does it take you to call an indigenous European a RACIST once you know that they object to their native lands being dealt out to other ethnicities and their indigenous European cultures being replaced by multiculturalism? Maori and native Americans might be finding land where their cultural identities can be preserved, but native Europeans are not. They are loosing it under the weight of immigration from the people mostly from Islamic countries, the very religion you feel has been attacked here.

"But the truth of the matter is: most of you are hypocrites!"

Well maybe it takes one to know one. But then again I should wait to see how you can answer the question.

"@Deema #5 "I am glad that all religions are being exposed one after the other."

What a ridiculous and oafish argument? Now, This freak-animal (Imam) is presenting whole meaning of Islam? Or are they few freak-animals (Christians priests) presenting whole meaning of Christianity?"

Obviously when Deema said "all religions" you misinterpreted that to mean "not all religions, only Islam". Your comprehension skills need a damn good tune up.

Does anyone know a good recipe for cheesecake?

ISLAM is the ruination of the free world.......Muslims should all be sent back to their backward homelands.

Amazing how one simple, tragic paedophilia story can be bring out the fools and the bigots on both sides of the faith divide.

The fact that this man is an imam is really an irrelevance, legally speaking. In Sweden it's a crime to molest young children and this person should be punished accordingly. Muslims are not above the law in either their native countries or their host countries, not even imams.

The fact that some commenters are comparing Middle Eastern countries with European, or Catholic paedophiles with Muslim is also irrelevant.

This is a story about Sweden and a Swedish resident so get down off your Islamophobic/Islamophilic soapboxes.

Worst thing means worst in all religions, so it does not mean that he was following Islam while doing this, or Islam has asked him for the same, we should criticize the evil, no the religion.

Well, he who breeds leads. Islam will eventually overtake Europe because we have brainwashed the young to postpone marriage and family to the point that once they do start thinking about kids it is biologically too late.

Pedophiles are pedophiles first and foremost. They will hide behind any convenient facade that gives them access to children with little suspicion. You will find them hiding in plain sight in the garb of religious leaders (of any denomination or sect), teachers, youth group volunteers, team coaches ... you get the idea. It is unfortunate that Islam already seems to have built itself a reputation as an institution that treats women and children as lesser people.

I must correct my bad grammar, I should have said; "My wife and I got a phone call from the school." (I should never put myself ahead of my wife, either in grammar or in life!)

@mjennin2 - "Does anyone know a good recipe for cheesecake?"

I am partial to the North American method which uses CREME CHEESE! The cream cheese recipe creates a wonderfully smooth custard like filling! I was shocked by the lumpy Swedish method

@Sjayna - "...sorry, I will be more precise ; ALL OF THE MAJOR RELIGIONS SUBDUE WOMEN. Please,look at the statistics,child sexual abuse, ... gender and the crimes/demand?!"

I will again disagree that "ALL OF THE MAJOR RELIGIONS SUBDUE WOMEN" but then I have my own working definition of "subdue" and it may not be the same as your definition.

Islam definitely subjugates women. Taoism, which is a major religion, holds women as equals. Buddhism which is a "major" religion does not believe in subduing women (by my definition). Some Christian sects definitely subdue women whereas other Christian sects definitely DO NOT! Even the Jewish faith is divided on this subject.

Yes I also stand by my point that "this is NOT just about MEN because there are also WOMEN out there with equally unhealthy sexual attitudes" definitely you should look at the statistics. You will find those women and you will be surprised by their numbers. YES there are more men than women with these unhealthy attitudes but just as you pointed out it has nothing to do with religion and is in fact found throughout the human race, I am pointing out, it is ALSO across BOTH SEXES!

@glamshek - "...Its US who bombed Japan... It US who who have the deadliest nuclear arsenal..."

The USA and Russia have the largest nuclear arsenal and will never use it because it is MAD! Mutual Assured Destruction. So what is your point?

I like the knee jerk reaction to the 2 nuclear bombs dropped on Japan. I used to think it was horrible but now I firmly believe it was a necessary evil! Those 2 bombs saved millions of Japanese and Allied people from being killed or injured. The telling point is the fact that no other nukes have been used aggressively anywhere else since then.

That being said, I miss how this relates to sexual abuse.

@Rebel - "...he who breeds leads"

You forget that MANY of islam's followers leave their religion when they get to the West! Education will cause a further significant decline in their numbers. People cannot worship anyone who's actions are significantly depraved without a lot of Cognitive Dissonance!

Stop hating people from different cultural/philosophical/religious backgrounds (Specifically Arabs & Muslims!)

@Uncle #19 & @bloom99 #57

"women in Emirates cannot open a bank account"

Let's see how are the real trolls and lairs !!!

(Source: http://dubai.ae/en.portal?topic,openbankacc,1,&_nfpb=true&_pageLabel=general)

Open a bank account in Dubai:-

Criteria

Opening a bank account in Dubai is very easy, although requirements vary from bank to bank. To open a current/checking account, you have to be a resident. However, some banks allow non-UAE residents to open saving accounts. Some banks set a minimum account/balance limit.

Documents Required:

• Passport with residency (original and copy)

• A letter of no-objection from the employer/sponsor

Procedure:

Carry the above mentioned documents to your nearest bank or to the bank of your choice.

• You can find a list of the banks in the UAE here,

• You can check currency rates here.

Don't you feel ashamed ?

Ohh... I forgot that animals are senseless

P.S. STOP lying, you already look so bad!

@DamnImmigrant: "I am partial to the North American method which uses CREME CHEESE!"

I never realized *THAT* was what made the difference! Ahhh DI, what a great culinary beacon of light you have been for me :D I wonder...could one make a strawberry cheesecake by simply following a plain cheesecake recipe and using strawberry cream cheese instead? Strawberry cream cheese is sooooooooooo way more better than regular cream cheese....especially at Noah's Bagels, but I unfortunately doubt Sverige has a Noah's Bagels....or does it??

@mjennin2 - "...could one make a strawberry cheesecake by simply following a plain cheesecake recipe and using strawberry cream cheese instead"

CRAP! - Now you've gone and done IT!!! What a great idea. Such a simple idea! I always added the strawberry sauce on top. Never really satisfying. Bummer the stores are closed until tomorrow.

Did you bait me on this because you knew about using flavored creme cheese all along?

@damnimm -- Mwa-hahahahaha ! But of course I did, it was all part of my diabolical plot to lure you into thinking *you* had the best recipe, only just so that I could pull the rug out from underneath you and expose the real truth: that *I* can make a better tastier all-around-more-awesome cheesecake than yoooouuuuu !!! ;) I win :D

And it was also to give everyone *else* a little slice of this: http://www.thelocal.se/discuss/index.php?showtopic=30882&hl=

::smiles big, winks, picks up lollipop, and skips away::

@ nordic prince ! @ everybody !

I'm already arabs and muslim but I would ask you if you could change first your username to ARAB PRINCE instead of this username .. we the muslim are happy to live in western country and keep its cultural shape as it is with out of any distortion in its cultural structure .. Jordan, Sudia Arabia, and Egypt are making crimes against the minorites there including the ciristian .. be greatful to live with western otherwise Sudia arabia can give you alll your rights

@damnimmi

You should be aligned with Hitler by the kind of logic you have. Does achieving a 'Nuclear only' peace at the cost of first killing people with nuclear bombs have any legality. Innocent civilians were killed dear. Not just soldiers. Moreover what sort of logic is this to kill all the weak and strong people in the world to make yourself a superpower? Does it make any sense?Today its US, tommorrow it can be China bombing you and your US, would you be happy then? Lol

@hisham

You're such a muppet !!!

"we the muslims"

You're just 1 person (In my eyes you are 1/4 person) but any way, who gives you the right to talk about all the Muslim cmmunity in the West ?

You goon only represnt your opinion NOT others!

@Nordic Prince

It is so funny to see how morons avoided and ran away of discussing your point about "Seeing how the police are getting involved in this case. But the Christians' cases are handled by religious people inside the churches".

Thanks very much for showing the readers the truth about how to open a bank accoun in UAE.

Seems lying is builtin in the nature of many goofs around!

GLAMSHAM, my man; to be compared to hitler by YOU is a distinct honor, thank you! Now to really confuse you, the Swastika IS one of my most holy religious symbols - any idea why? Clue is in my profile.

GLAM, you also seem to see the world in BLACK and WHITE and therefore simplify very complex issues. You make some childish references such as hitler and referring to "your US" (when in fact, I B svensk 10 år nu)! Unfortunately, when I matured, I found a world that had only SHADES OF GREY.

It is obvious from your statement that you can not and will not understand what I was talking about. BIWTA

Nuclear peace has NOTHING to do with nuking Japan - 2 totally separate issues. The Nuclear counties have kept from going M.A.D. - issue #1.

Millions of Japanese were going to be killed or injured and about a million Allied troops in the invasion of Japan. - issue #2 is that 2 bombs killing and injuring roughly more than 250,000, brought quick end to the war.

Now imagine being that poor salesman who was in Hiroshima when it blew up in his face and this poor guy manages to make it back home to Nagasaki, just in time to have it vaporize as well. I think he just died this year.

Again - This discussion might help you and your agenda but how does it help understanding child abuse perpetrated by authority figures who have direct contact with children?

If this abuse had taken place in an islamic country, nothing would have happened because she would have needed 4 witnesses to override his testimony. He also could have paid the "blood money?" to buy his way out of the transgression. At least in Sweden the police are getting involved and he will not be able to buy his way out of this one.

So here is something I do not think anyone has touched on - HOW MANY MORE victims of his are out there? -- "No really! I only did it that ONE time!" - Yah, right!

I have to go find some creme cheese now - TTFN

ALL paedophiles should be punished with VERY LONG prison sentences!

@ Nordic Prince and everyone else for that matter

I believe that Deema was referring to religion as an organization in general.

Please, all of you stop and consider this: which religious organization in the world was created by God (or the supreme being you believe in) and not by man? All were. And mankind is flawed as we all know. It's not surprising that scandals pop up everywhere concerning religious organizations, and it doesn't matter which one - all are flawed. WE created them.

I believe that those of us with loveand faith in our hearts should follow our hearts. Nothing more is needed.

Oh, Nordic Prince. It is not allowed to cut off heads in Afghanistan also... Plus, gang rapes are not favorable by the law.. But...

Testimonies of women expats in Dubai according to National Geographic were that they had to DEMAND the law to be applied, when they were advised to come back with a male colleague.

As for Saudi Arabia, read

http://www.bukisa.com/articles/121335_womens-rights-in-saudi-arabia-today

Just examples:"Though a woman is an adult, she is considered as a minor and has always been under the guardianship of her father, husband and son.She cannot go out without getting the written permission of her guardian"

"Though there are as many as 15,000 women entrepreneurs, they cannot actively or individually participate in business.A woman cannot individually open a bank account and she has to rely upon her guardian only for opening the bank account."

"In the legal front, the women's condition is even more pathetic.Generally she is not considered as a separate legal entity.She can not appear in a court of law and testifies in a case as a witness.Even in her own case a womans evidence was not duly considered."

No - Swedes are much worse than the Sharia muslims!

You know who's the REAL racist? Polar bears. If a polar bear encountered a brown bear or a black bear, it would beat the sh_t out of it, no questions asked. Kickin' a%*, taking names. The black bear and the brown bear have nothing on the big white one. I wonder if the polar bear is an Arab too, I bet it is!

Cheesecake is almost done, nom nom nom nommmm

@Uncle

You know putz, anyone (Including those who disagree with me!) reads your comments will see that you are just squint cockroach who tries to run away from the shoes which about to hit his fact. But because it's stupid, it runs to an insecticide.

You're TRULY a two-time loser, because you are a lair!

@karex #76

"I believe that Deema was referring to religion as an organization in general."

1) Are you his/her lawyer?

2) I don't care about what you and what you believe in.

3) It is so funny to see jester (You) who come out of the blue to comment on trivial thing. Well, obviously this is your level of intellect.

You know, Nordic Prince, probably the drinking problems of Sami impacted you seriously. I love the way you pompously try to insult tens of people in this forum, while at the same time declaring yourself the only truth speaker. Creates an image of a really small person with Napoleon syndrome.

All I said is that women cannot open an account there. I stand behind it, because thy really cannot, unless they swallow sac of humiliating behaviour and insist.. I never claimed that they are legally not allowed.

Your law argument is like saying that it is impossible that certain nation in Sweden allows their reindeers to hang around the highways, due to the fact that the insurance payment is higher of the NPV of the cashflows received from the reindeer, because there are anti fraud laws. Eh... Prince? (uncomfortable silence).

But I would like to relate to the lie accusations. Your behaviour is especially embarrassing after your claims that the muslims are most tolerant to the minorities.

Christians from muslim countries broke your idiotic statements like those of a 5 y/o. Others brought you statistics of the running minorities from countries like Jordan and Lebanon. Others tried to push into your thick head some info about minorities in Iran and Yemen.

Your obvious lies are exposed for like 3-4 months already on these forums. You not only do not disappear in embarrassment, but continue to drag yourself here and continue behaving like a danish sailor from 19th century. Rude, illogical, screaming and roaring like a challenged person... You only harm those you want to assist. Understand this already.

Even arguing with you - feels like I need a shower.

@nordic and uncle

Nordic, these people do not want to understand so its better to leave them alone to rot and keep doing scientific experiments about whether earth is moving or not?

@Damnimmi

You have no idea what you are talking about because you probably are sick. As I said earlier and to which you testified too' you should be aligned with Hitler with the kind of logic that you have.

Interesting to watch the shift into three parts: aware, kind-hearted apologists, and

ugly islanic supremacists.

There is growing recognition and understanding by the first part that the actions of this 'imam" are consistent with and promoted by the perpetrators of the green book, hence, comments like:

"16:28 May 6, 2010 by lilplatinum

Fark had the best headline for this

"Swedish Imam charged with impersonating Muhammed"

Fark Islam."

Other, unknowingly, think that this just compares with renegade priests and bishops, confusing the fact that one action is personal and against the rules, while ignoring that the green book and its sharia law makes LEGAL sexual exploitation of minors and suppression of women. Its a form of self-delusion fueled by purposeful ignorance.

Finally, we have the unabashed cheerleaders for genocide, who hate America, Israel and western freedoms, and infiltrate our free societies in order to undermine them from within. Their lies and disloyalty are plain to see fro those not wearing the rose-colored-glasses of self-delusion.

Nice to see that other are aware, and speaking up, about the outrage in sheep's clothing that is the moral basis for old men raping underage girls. No deliberate confusion please, trying to break away the 'cultural' from the religious - there is no difference in islan. "Honour killings" are a proper reflection of the religion that celebrates torture, murder, theft, and the pleasures of young boys and girls.

Good thing this girl is not being forced to go to a Sharia Court, where her testimony would be discounted and dismissed and she would be punished instead.

Who know, there still may be hope for civilized society - we will have to see what the kind-hearted apologists do when confronted with the ugly truth...

Set aside the rantings and ravings seen above that tires me out so much I can't push myself to read it, I only have one reflection to this story. This is the first I heard about it. I read three Swedish newspapers daily and haven't seen anything about this story in any of them. What comes to mind is if there's a story behind the story since none (as far as I have seen) of the major newspapers have run this story. Just grateful The Local published it to make it known to a larger public.

@Uncle

First of all, elements like you when they want to mention anything about Sami, they must first mentioned God's name or whoever they pray for. Because Sami people are the holiest people on the planet.

Second of all, I'm sure I don't suffer from alcohol intoxication, but I'm 112% sure that you live in a virtual world full of fake Stereotype and hate (I just confirmed this fact when you mentioned about the drinking problems!)

I think I made points very clear that quite many people in the West are hypocrites!

All your arguements are invalid, meaningless and incoherent.

You blame and talk with deep hate about all Arabs and Muslims in general as they are: well-educated, have safe and average life standards with health care + social security systems and developed nations.

You goon wake up!!! The majority of people there suffer from complete illiteracy, poverty and darkness. On top of that, they are rules by until illegitimate dictators (Thanks to EU+US!).

You are so just a BIG-retarded lumpen when you criticise Jordan or Syria according to your European standards.

BTW, you must always have a shower before you talk to the people who are better than you (In order Not to bother them with your stinky smell). Also, after arguing with them, to remove the holiness and the blesses you gained from their words (Obviously, because you don't deserve them!)

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Yes it goes on and on my friends!

Some people started singing it not knowing what it was,

and they'll continue singing it forever just because

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and they'll continue singing it forever just because

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and they'll continue singing it forever just because

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Some people started singing it not knowing what it was,

and they'll continue singing it forever just because

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Some people started singing it not knowing what it was,

and they'll continue singing it forever just because

This is the song that never ends,

Yes it goes on and on my friends!

Some people started singing it not knowing what it was,

and they'll continue singing it forever just because

This is the song that never ends,

Yes it goes on and on my friends!

Some people started singing it not knowing what it was,

and they'll continue singing it forever just because

This is the song that never ends,

Yes it goes on and on my friends!

Some people started singing it not knowing what it was,

and they'll continue singing it forever just because

This is the song that never ends,

Yes it goes on and on my friends!

Some people started singing it not knowing what it was,

and they'll continue singing it forever just because

This is the song that never ends,

Yes it goes on and on my friends!

Some people started singing it not knowing what it was,

and they'll continue singing it forever just because

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Some people started singing it not knowing what it was,

and they'll continue singing it forever just because

This is the song that never ends,

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Some people started singing it not knowing what it was,

and they'll continue singing it forever just because

This is the song that never ends,

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Some people started singing it not knowing what it was,

and they'll continue singing it forever just because

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and they'll continue singing it forever just because..well it's dinner time, they wanna stop now.

~Fin~

@Uncle

Our reindeers must enjoy hanging around the highways, cities and your house. Because we are the landlords.

It''s called the "religion of PIECE" for a reason............

GLAMSHAM - It is clear that you have no idea what I am talking about. If you with to start a new thread (posted topic), I'll be glad to try to explain it there. Nazi? LOL, reference my profile.

SO MY QUESTION IS - Has anyone read anything about OTHER VICTIMS of this "IMAM"?