Sweden deports Iraqis despite UN criticism

You guys have no idea how the swedish school system works, do you...?

They were Iraqi Christians, right?

Naughty old Sweden!!!!

This is an indication to US/UN that EU is no more ALL YES, they should think before they go somewhere and create violence !!!!

Ruthless cruelty of the West against needy people from third world countries...

Millions of people live in Iraq and go about their business every day.If there is violence in their area then move to another area in your own country. That's what people do in every country... Move out of bad neighborhoods and into good ones. If they can afford to travel to Sweden they can certainly find safer places in Iraq.

The war in Iraq is over. The entire world is violent compared to Sweden. Fix the violence in your own country instead of bringing it to Sweden.

@Marko2010S Iraq isn't a 3rd world country.

Good. I suggest we depart all the rest of beards as well.

Whether they were Iraqi Christians or Muslims i have no concern with them, Sweden has to tackle down these people and their issues before its too late. I am not Swede but it is my point of view. Swedish government has to get rid of such people who are creating problems.

@marc the texan

The war in Iraq might be over, but another war is looming. If you have followed UN security council resolution yesterday Iran is being prepared for confrontation. The Iraq drama is being replayed. If war breaks, probably millions of Iranians will be killed and several more millions will run to neighboring countries for safety.(Remember there are about 5 million Iraqis in Jordan and Syria.) As industries and economic structures will be destroyed, the country will be dependent on handouts. Your tax money is being used for destruction and you tax money will be used for financing handouts. A few thousand Iranians particularly those with connections will come to your door step looking for jobs.

The Iraq war might be over. At the same time another war is looming. Mind you US can fight its wars only one at a time. The assumption that it could fight two wars at the same time was found false.

They can fight 2 wars if they drop the big one - make it big enough to take out Israel as well - all problems solved with one bomb

@BrittInSweden

"Iraq isn't a 3rd world country"

You bloody-goon, have you ever went to an elementry school ?

If America throw's its full force into a war it could easily handle two wars, especially against Iran and any other middle eastern country.

American could flatten the Iranian military in a few weeks but dealing with rebels and fanatics is a war that can not be won by sheer force and that's war they can't win.

"Sweden deported 56 Iraqis to Bagdhad on Wednesday in the face of stern criticism from the UN refugee agency (UNHCR)"

The UNHCR is an unelected tax funded jamboree for liberals getting high on their own rhetoric. It has zero credibility because it ceaselessly fails to appreciate the right of sovereign countries to control their own borders.

Sweden of course has every right to deport foreign nationals, just as every other country has. There is no obligation on the part of Sweden or any other country in the West to feed, clothe, house, marry, employ Asian and African nationals. They have to learn to make their own way in this world.

As for the farce of "asylum" act the best thing the West could do is bin it. It was designed during the Cold War to provide refuge for East European intellectuals from the Soviets, not to facilitate the migration of entire peoples from one continent to the next. It's extension to the latter has a lot to do with UNHCR bureaucrats puffing themselves up and seeking to raise their "importance". They need their wings clipping.

I normally support the UN but reading how it rules against common sense in these cases makes me lose respect for it ..

Where does national sovereignty begin and end?

Yet again Sweden shows its double standard, racist face.

Not only that they oppress the refugees that already live in Sweden by discrimination and brutal treatment whenever these people seek legitimate freedom (see what happened in Rinkeby last week), the Swedes also discriminate new comers.

These Iraqi refugees have all the right in the world to settle in Sweden. The Swedes need to learn that they cannot isolate themselves forever, they need to accept the people coming into the country and adjust their culture and behavior to accommodate the life styles of the new comers.

Integration works in both ways. If Sweden want the refugees to integrate, they also have to make some concessions like keep Halal in all mixed cities and be more modest in the way women dress in those places where refugees live.

I hope that the UN now punishes Sweden for its treatment of refugees.

Boby,

Iraqi refugees don't have the "right" to come to Sweden. Sweden accepts them. The new comers need to follow the house rules. Swedes needs to change (Halal and modest dress) so as not to offend the refugees? Don't be ridiculous! You obviously have no respect for Sweden.

@boby

The Swedes needn't accept anyone. To the contrary, it's immigrants that need to accept Sweden, including it's laws and customs including the customary way that Swedish women dress.

@Boby

You can't be serious. I'm assuming that your entire post is sarcasm. No one has the right to settle in Sweden, except when it is allowed by Swedish law, or do you suggest that countries like Sweden don't have the right to determine who can or can't come?

If Swedes were to move to Iraq, Syria, Iran or Saudi Arabia, do you feel that they have all the right in the world to settle there, and that those countries need to make concessions and force their citizens to be less modest, remove their burqas and submit to the Swedish ways in order to be more accommodating to the newcomers?

There is something to be said of the old maxim "Give a man a fish you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish, you feed him for a lifetime." Seems to me that accepting so many refugees is just feeding them for a day. If things are so awful where they live (whatever country), shouldn't those who see the danger and injustice stay and fight it? One might claim being a refugee is akin to being a coward (unless there are some pretty horrible extremes).

If they don't like where they are, why not change the people instead of the locality?

But then why the double standards of Sweden? The UN had its say, and it demanded Sweden to stop deportations. Swedes always use the argument that UN is the highest authority e.g. when things come to Israel, so why the same rule does not apply to themselves?

Why is Israel deemed apartheid state by Sweden if it wants to keep it Jewish character, but Sweden is not an apartheid state if it wants to keep its Swedish character?

All demographic studies show that in about 25 years, around 30% of the population in Sweden will be Muslim. Sweden has to adopt and not be the apartheid state it is today- change the laws to be more based on Sharia and change the culture to be less offensive to Islam.

Boby,

In the meantime, you will just have to eat tasty and delicious pork and enjoy the bare boobies like a good Swede.

boby Your attitude is the reason we deport these people they expect every country that they decide to move to, should change everything to suit them. What would happen to us if we went to these muslim countries and made the same demands as you. These people do not respect the countries that are forcing themselves on.

I moved to Sweden 9 years ago and have had no problems because I accept the laws and customs of Sweden and do not expect them to change one thing for me.

I am sick and tired of people arriving in my country (UK) and expecting me to change to suit their ways and values. I live by the old saying ''When in Rome do as the Roman's do''. The time is fast approaching when the crap is going to hit the fan as far as asylum goes. If their country of origin is deemed safe enough they should be sent back there. There are only certain parts of Iraq that aren't safe. If these people want to live by their laws and religious beliefs I suggest they pack their bags and head back to a country that is willing to accommodate them, not try and change someone else's way of life and cause trouble if they don't. There are plenty of countries in the Middle East that fit the bill. Or is it they just see Europe as a soft touch that they can sponge off for the rest of their lives. As for the UN a complete waste of space and money.

>>>If Sweden want the refugees to integrate, they also have to make some concessions like keep Halal in all mixed cities and be more modest in the way women dress in those places where refugees live.

I hope that the UN now punishes Sweden for its treatment of refugees.>>>

LOL!! Boby is my favorite poster here, I think. If you guys have paid attention to his posts in the past you would recognize the tongue-in-cheek rhetoric here. It's too bad I had to point it out because it kind of ruins things. Just didn't want everyone getting their panties in a bunch. :)

Sweden stops deporting gays to Iran

http://www.thelocal.se/1848/20050805/

I wonder if any of those Iraqis deported were gay too?

@ E. lissesul

If you do not want refugees invading your privacy stop invading other people's privacy. Do not forget the US and UK bombed Iraq and killed over 1 million people and forced about 5 million people to flee to Jordan and Syria. The number that came to Europe is very small compared to those who have gone elsewhere.

Wait what hapens when US and UK begin bombing Iran. The refugee crisis will be worse. Right now the two together with their allies have imposed crippling sanctions. This would cause unemployment in Iran to rise. Where do you think they will go; some of them to Europe. The cause of the problem is your countries' policies. Tell your governments to stay away from the Middle East and there will be peace. These countries have lived in peace for thousands of years before Europe began to interfer in their affairs. There were wars but they were not as destructive as those by US and UK.

Audrian I wondered when someone would turn up with a comment like yours. I don't see you bitching about your Muslim Brothers and Sisters killing each other on a daily basis in Iraq, Pakistan and Afghanistan. Why aren't you out there complaining about that? I take it you were quite happy for Saddam Insane to murder and gas his own people with impunity, invade Kuwait and causing instability in the region. I would remind you about the Iraq/Iran war how many died in that one, the wars in Lebanon? So your comment about them living in peace falls flat on it's face at the first hurdle. Be honest you just hate what the US and the UK stand for.

Lets have a brain storm about the ways a man can fight a despot or totalitarian government (e.g. North Korea, Cuba...) from inside.

@Boby

Well said.

Sweden is land of racism and hypocrasy, However, these are the best features that the West has !

Marko, there you go again.

So if racism and hypocrisy (note spelling) are the best features of the West, please do tell us about the best features of...

Saddam's Iraq (OK, he's not there anymore)

Mugabe's Zimbabwe

Assad's Syria

Kim Jong Il's North Korea

King Faisel's Saudi Arabia

Castro's Cuba

Chavez' Venezuela

Putin's Russia

al-Bashir's Sudan

Haniyeh's Gaza

The Generals of Burma (Myanmar)

Khadafy's Libya

Mubarak's Egypt

All of Somalia

I could go on but have to break for lunch.

@saab #32

Saddam's Iraq: He is the one who defended all Arabs for several years from Persian attack, and he's the only Arab leader who said Shut up to US, EU and Israel. That's why traitors with the West conducted conspiracy and killed him. Anyway Saddam is honored, remembered and loved.

Mugabe's Zimbabwe: He is a decent leader who refuses to keep foreign occupiers (Westerners) who are exploiting the natural resources of his country. So he kicked those out and that's why losers like you believe the satanic westerners' media. Mugabe deserves full and complete respect.

King Faisel's Saudi Arabia & Assad's Syria: Those are from the few Arab leaders who reject to make diplomatic relationships with the satanic state "Israel". Children bodies are not yet burried in Gaza because of Israeli criminals and Sweden and its neighbours were silen like cowards witnessing these massacres

You need to be re-educated Mindless-muppet....

@ Marko. If you seriously believe Mugabe to be a decent leader and a man to be respected,then you are definately a can short of a six pack.......

how about they all get sent back and take a stance and rebuild their nation, all they ever do is runaway and migrate to other country's building their own little communities that host citizens end up labeling a part of town they wouldn't live in. These people aren't made nor equip for western civilization much like how we aren't to their civilization. I believe they should have the right to seek asylum for a period and do the best they can when their in their host country i.e. learn the language, attempt or attend school(whatever level you need), stay crime free. The problem is that they migrate, never learn the language, never attend school and suck up welfare systems, and then cry when their visa's are re granted. Go back to the middle east and FIX IT!!! just like every other developed country has, we didn't just wake up one morning and go from mud huts to mansions. STOP fighting over who's god's greater or who deserves his land and build communities and city's!!!! i know its not that easy but neither was the revolutionary and civil wars we and others have gone through, it took us years, its been 3000 years and they are STILL fighting over nothing, but were just supposed to let them in with open arms and let them continue to suck the governments tit. I'm sick of it.

@Strecke

When Saudi government ask women to cover head then Western media and human rights organizations start shouting in name of personal freedom...

But when in France and some other moderate EU countries, women are not allowed to study at school wearing scarf then no western human rights organization speaks??

Please someone explain term hypocrisy in western culture...

The west is responsible of all the problems happening in the middle east en Africa. they are the ones who fund different groups to fight each other, so as they can come in the name of UN en start looting our mineral resources.look at Congo, they say its peaceful en when they tell UN to leave the country, they say its not peaceful. what are Swedish soliders doing there if it's peaceful?

Rita

Yes, it's ALL the West's fault. The day the you people stop blaming others and take a LONG, HARD look in the mirror is the day that your problems will cease. Get a clue. Seriously.

I would appreciate it if the news story would have been accompanied with some investigation as to why these 56 people were rejected asylum, and how large a portion of all the asylum seekers they were.

Technically, dig deeper, please.

The events described as natural happenings, without giving any reasons and motives behind it, might not be the best way to report for the highly-educated Swedes of 21 century.

@amirhosein

Thank you. I had actually typed a long comment yesterday in reply, along the same lines, but unfortunately forgot to copy before submitting and it was lost.

There can be many reasons for rejecting asylum petition/claim, some can be very shaky, and its very common

For instance:

1. Lack of substantial proof or documented evidence of likelihood of persecution and/or past persecution

2. Questionable arguments, country conditions, or status, or lack of their understanding or documentation thereof

3. Unwillingness of certain key witnesses (or parties involved) to testify or add a supporting declaration.

4. Lack of country conditions experts, depending on the asylum category applicable in the case

5. Whether the asylee can prove identity and country of citizenship, by means of a valid passport or national ID

6. Not being able, or not knowing, of the requirement of having to apply for asylum in a certain time-frame from the date of entering the country (depends on the country. In the US it is 1 year, Sweden, I think, 3 months?). Oftentimes, there are no exceptions to this rule, even when there are so called "Extreme Circumstances" exceptions, because the burden of proof is so high, it is very unrealistic for anyone to actually be able to fulfill it, even given strong reasons to indicate why its nearly impossible to meet such burdens of proof.

7. Tough or apathetic immigration officer/judge, public defender, or special policies for certain asylum categories or asylees from certain countries. Take UK's general stance on Iranian/Iraqi LGBT asylees for instance.

There are many other reason that could possibly be involved besides the mostly-incriminating assumptions made here. It's quite sad really.

@Marko2010S

Reported for being a small minded racist who is blinded by one truth, a false truth.

@Kanedaa

Obviously you are the blind one not me !

It's all the west's fault huh? How many trillions of dollars has the west given people in Africa and the middle east in the last 65 years? Those parts of the world have always been poor, on the verge of starvation and full of just about every disease there is. If the west is so evil, then why was this money given? If the west never went to these places, guess what, they would have more starvation, more disease and more wars.

If the west is so hypocritical and evil, then why do hundreds of thousands of Muslim insist on moving there instead of the other way around?

The west should change to accommodate the refugees? That's funny. If I let you into my house to stay for a month or two, should I have to change my food for you or rearrange my furniture to your taste?

Women should change the way they dress to accommodate refugee's tastes? Um, I don't think you quite get the concept of freedom. Let me explain how that works.. You see here in the west we have something we call freedom of expression. That means that people can say what they want or dress the way they want. Isn't that the reason you insist on moving to a western country in the first place? If I don't like Chinese food, then I don't go to a Chinese restaurant to eat. I don't make them change their menu. If you don't like western culture and freedoms, then don't move to the west, duh!

Sweden deports Iraqis despite UN criticism

Should this flagrant violation of human rights be brought to the UN for condemnation. Should these illegal immigrants be brought back to Sweden via a flotilla attack?

Jed Nightingale

New York City

Although I expect to see all these comments on such a topic I still am surprised each and everytime with the reactions. Maybe indeed that each and every person and nation has its own definition for common sense but regarless of the above accusations towards Swedes as being rasist or hypocryts, which I wouldnt rush to reject necessarily but wouldnt take that idea to extremes(there are far more racist and extremist nations out there really) .Take one example, if you bring someone into your home , feed him ,give him a shelter a job etc,and try to have him integrated into the society and he proves to go to his old habbits and roots and acts against common sense and sense of security, how would you react?Turn the other cheeck?Dont think so- you would kindly let him know his actions are unappropriate in this land and maybe roughly punished. Now I m not saying even Swedish born criminals ,thiefts etc should be deported to Iran or anything, although had a dark side and good side- might get worse as a criminal or realize there are worse places to live.

Un may criticize but just as a country can exercise their judgement in accepting refugees they can do the same in deporting them to their native lands. I totally agree with that. Is a matter of assylum is a priviledge really in most situation not necessarily a right, and one needs to meet expectations on that.Can take any country as an example.Imagine a totaliterian regime in Sweden and Swedes seeking asylum in Russia or even Iraq and way they would behave in those countries(good or bad) and local acceptance towards their actions and lifestyle?!

@Marko

Saddam DEFENDED all Arabs from Persian invasion? I guess the Moroccans and Algerians were quaking in their boots at the imminent Persian attack. Saddam ATTACKED Iran in 1980 causing three-quarters of a million casaulties to his own people and wrecking his own economy. Then he DEFENDED all Arabs by invading an Arab country, Kuwait (Hey, isn't that hypocritical?), which led to Gulf Wars I and II, and eventually his execution. He brought it all on his own head and got what he deserved.

Mugabe is a decent leader? He turned his country from a food exporter to one that has to beg for food aid not to starve and destroyed his economy to such an extent that Zimbabwe no longer has its own currency. Some 'leader?'

Your choice of heroes leaves much to be desired.

@Abbot-Politically Incorrect Comrade you are not supposed to mention that our Glorious leaders of the People's Reveuotion are starving their own people to death in places like Zimbabwe and North Korea.

Remember Sadam Insane was a heroe of Islam for killing Millions of Muslims in his country, Iran and Kuwaite, before the West stepped in. The fact that he was a Socialist Dictator with no ties to Islam prior to the US led invasion is irrelevant to the People's Republics of the World and their fellow dupes..