May 26, 2012
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Allow me to add that Sweden being what it is despite being a monarchy, is the main argument used by autocratic royal regimes. For the sake of democracy worldwide, I humbly ask Swedish citizens to take a stand on the issue. If the Swedish monarchy was to be removed, I can guarantee that more than a handful of absolutist regimes will lose their legitimacy and be naturally forced to transition towards more democracy.
Please Sweden, snap out of this cognitive dissonance towards relics of feodalism and get rid of this obsolete institution. If not for yourself, then for all the political prisoners and oppressed people living under autocratic monarchies. The Third World needs that much more than the billions you hand out. Thank you.
Think about these following nations
Australia
Norway
Sweden
Denmark
Spain
Netherlands
Belgium
Japan
Canada
New Zealand
Luxembourg
What do all these liberal democracies have with each other?
What in the he.. did the crown princess do to you for you make such nasty mean comments? What does her chin have to do with anything? Are you such a -perfect human- being without any physical flaws? There is NOT one person in this world that is perfect in anyway shape or form. What do you dislike about Sweden except it's royalty, heritage, history? I read a lot of history books on countries around the world and have read many many books on the history of Sweden, Denmark and Norway. The people seems to me as I speak for myself, a very strong and proud of who they are and where they come from. I live in the USA and I can tell you that having to elect a head of state every 4 years is really gruelling. These idiots that run for office are a bunch of loose cannons and none of them are with a dime...and they spend tens of millions of dollars to get elected. A hundred times more then the royal wedding cost and I have to pay for that. I am only 1 vote and believe me, one vote counts for nothing. Our leaders, congress and government officials are out for themselves and their friends only.
There is one thing that I will agree with you on, there is no patriotism in this country and I think this has a lot to do with the fact that here we all relate to our heritage which comes from other countries. I might have been born and raised here but my heritage is Irish and Scotish.. I always tell my friends and it makes for some very heated discussions, that I love the IDEA of American but I HATE what has become of my country. I just learn to live with it as I said one vote doesn't count.
I don't like or think that America is the greatest country on earth and I don't think it should be labled as such. I am sure that your freedom of speech is not taken away from you in Sweden. My Swedish friends would disagree with you. As for the royals, it's a matter of being proud of your heritage for that is what they represent. As I said I LOVE the idea of America but I sure hate what it's become. In traveling around the world, I find being an American is something people in other countries look down on, such as: why do Americans hate to wait in line in a foreign country to enter some place of interest when they wiat in line here for mcdonald's? I have been on many trips to Europe with Americans and am ashamed of their arragonce and attitude that they think they are better then everyone else because they are Americans. This makes me ashamed of them. I don't want to go to other countries to see mcdonald's, wendy's, sears, or any other label that comes from here. I want to see the history and the real Swedish country and it's people if I could go to Sweden. I believe that each and every country has it's good and bad. To me Sweden seems to have more good then bad. I am glad that I am a broad minded person who likes to learn about the world from other people around the world. that is where I get my attitude and ideas about Sweden. Because I have traveled a lot and seen many places, that is why I don't think or like the idea the America is the greatest country on earth. Sometimes the chip on our should about who we think we are, should be knocked off so that we could have more humality.
What is with you and the way Victoria looks? What does your chin look like?
When Royals mess up things as the ones in Nepal did, they were unceremoniouly removed by popular will. The British monarchy is one which is flourishing and is loveable. Look at Thailand. Governments, even when dominated by the military, are subservient to the Royal family because Royals do not interfere.
As opposed to the above, there are those democracies, so called, whose heads of governments are worse than dictators and distrusted entities. So, there need be no demur in the case of Sweden.
http://www.republic.org.uk/What%20we%20want/In%20depth/The%20Case%20for%20a%20Republic/index.php
I think you should stop traveling. Your rant is the sort of incoherent babble that gives Americans a bad name. Please try to make sense.
two questions 1- do you really think Swedes are patriotic? hahaha (all Swedes I know would deny that and I actually don't see any patriotism at all beyond loving a summer stuga)
2- If there is to be so, do you really think that this is inspired by the Royal house? I can make a huge list of more patriotic countries that have actually never had one. so I can't really see that connection you are making.
I enjoy reading the comments on these threads, and I am surprised to find that most suporters are often living abroad. I suggest that they should send their donations to all of us who didn't want to support the royal wedding with our taxes, so they can pay for it as they seem so happy and enthusiastic about it.
@GLO, when you state that the Swedish Royals are a wonderful family, what exactly comes into your analysis? do you personally know them?
I mean, don't get me wrong, maybe they are wonderful people, but they are not quite good at setting a good example.
Victoria's anorexia and breaking rules and traditions in this wedding.
Madelaine's party, nightclub, alcoholic, overspending Lindsey Lohan's lifestyle.
The Queen serious dismorphia issues and the king missfortunate support for a dictatorship among other of his careless speeches... I really hope we would have some thing better for export hahaha. GOD BLESS ABBA AND BJORN BORG!
However, may I suggest that monarchy does offer a precious constitutional safeguard against tyranny, so far as it insists that those with political power exercise that power on behalf and for someone else. Those with supreme power are not also sovereign.
Also, particularly in a country like Sweden that is the epitome of equality, it seems important to have the pleasures of admiration, and to have people for pop culture to admire other than the Hollywood stars. If ordinary people are not allowed to admire kings and queens, they often end up admiring 'gang-stars' and porn stars.
Thanks.
And to me as a Swede, I feel ashamed that something like the royal monarchy is suppose to represent me as a Swede abroad. No, of course I want to be able to choose who is suppose to represent me. At least a position should be open to anyone, not inherited by one single family. The whole thing really sickens me.
dont trust the media,
As the Brits know all too well, the monarchy looks good only as long as you don't look too closely.
Well... it wouldn' t be sooo different from out actual king, eller? haha ;)
@bheatrix
How old are you? Your generalized prejudicial comment is only worth if you are not older than 16 years old. You need to either meet more people or open the spectre of cathegories, there is more to life than black and white. Things are not left - poor right- rich. For your information right handed countries have the biggest gap between rich and poor and the rich are only a minority... so...
just evolved enough to leave monarchy in the medieval times!!!
Sorry people for this Political economy for dummies, but people should think twice before posting some things....
as long as there is someone inherriting their position its not democratic. You want to know why I worry about the current system?
Someone is suppose to represent me and the rest of the people of Sweden abroad. As a citizen I haven not been able to choose that person. The current system also creates a fairy tale picture in peoples minds about the king or queen. This makes it hard for media to report about what this institution in a serious way, which is a serious vioalation against democracy. Before the recent wedding the report from media has not been critical towards the system in any sense, the media has only cretaed an aura around the wedding with commercial jingles suspissicously reminding about Disney.
And another problem: if you dont like the person stpping into the position in the future, you have no chance to vote that person off. It takes time to abolish the monarchy system, maybe 8 years, which is not very democratic. A president can be voted off immediattelly... Its in the constituution, so there are certain rules that has to be fulfilled before a change in the system can be made.
I think it was terrible that the Swedish people had to pay for the wedding when so many are without a job these days! It might not sound like a lot of money but you have to consider that Sweden only has about 9 million people, that is a lot of money per tax payer.
I don't know how much money the royal family gets every year, but it's a lot more than the many old people in Sweden who barely gets any pension, even though they were working hard for many years.
Sweden already has a prime minister, why have a king that doesn't really do anything for the country, except cost money.
A president and prime minister are elected by the people/us and if they don't do a good job we can get rid off them. The royal family will still be there in a hundred years..
This is the perfect expression of the loony logic of those supporting monarchy:
Republicans=Taliban.
The royal parasites=ancient works of art.
(a) ending the requirement that the king and heirs remain a member of the Lutheran church, and (b) ending the requirement that all those in the line of succession seek clearance from the monarch and the government for their chosen spouse.
Both seem outdated in a democracy.
jealous selfhating fools with no sense of love for their homeland, if this in case is sweden and you are a swede since several generations, if you are not, you should have no say at all in the question of changin anyhing as old as monarchy in Sweden.
i feel sorry for republicans. so full of hate and their idea of "democracy" is clearly delusional.
Youre picture of history is in my mind very romantized without attachment to reality.
You seem to claim monarchy is a something we should celebrate with its long and good history. Well, until only about 100 years ago the king was a dictator. During the dictatorship the royal family on multiple occassions stopped the spreading of the free word as it tried to stop the press from growing.
Traces from the undemocratic nature of a monarchy can still be found today. The position is inherrited from generation to generation and of course media has cretaed a romantized fairy tale picture of a royal family, most obviosly stated in the recent wedding which stops media from serious covering of the instituion, which otherwise is natural in a democratic country as Sweden is in many other aspects.
the king is claimed to have no political power, but, for example, the fact that he represents Sweden abroad makes me want to influence who that person is. The abscence of this fact in the current system is very undemocratic indeed.
excuse me, but what has the king and monarchy to do with if we as a people are educated and progressive????? A lot of those people have throughout history fought against monarchy and the only thing the monarchy "embodies" is non-democracy,
I should have the right as a citizen to influence who represents my country and this is a position everyone should have the possibility to reach, not denied in the constituition as it is today, the year of 2010 (!).
And regarding the economy. if it is true a royal family costs less than a president, is that an argument against a democratic reform? Should we abolish the elected parliament if it cost less money?
Why should they have this privilege when I don't? Life is unfair get used to it, I don't have fabulous looks, a operatic voice, great brain or outstanding athletic ability, as much as I should like . These are gifts given to a person, you have these innate talents or you do not. I was not born royal???? well I could always marry a prince I suppose if it was written in my fate!.
The royal wedding was expensive and ostentatious. Just as it such a grand occasion needed to be. THIS royal wedding was also one of the most utterly splendid, magnificent and uplifting things I've ever witnessed. From Benni Andersson's "Resting Blissfully In Your Arms", to the ravishing orbs of campanula and bluebells that decorated the palace waterside, to the sailors lining the ships saluting the royal barge, to the groom's heartfelt speech, it was an unforgettable day. Everyone responsible for its staging, and everyone who shared in the day, should be proud. Sweden should be proud. It was both great and touchingly human at the same time.
The first commentator wrote: "If the Swedish monarchy was to be removed, I can guarantee that more than a handful of absolutist regimes will lose their legitimacy" which is not only hilarious, but also says volumes about their missunderstanding of the workings of dictatorships. I doubt they would even notice, let alone it shake their pillars!
Modernism imposes a crushing rationality at the best of times, so it's important to recognise things beyond easy quantifying, and which add so much to the colour, meaning and humanity of national life, like the monarchy. Cynicism is the most corrosive and destructive disease of modern life. With the support of such a loving partner, Victoria will make a splendid constitutional monarch for Sweden. Long may she reign!
Are you a Swede yourself? I am, I love Sweden and its democracy which is often top rated in the economists index. That is why I want to abolish the last remains of the non-democracy, that is the monarchy. Im not self-hating either.
Why do you connect love for the country with the system we have? if you as an american wants to switch president, are you not american then? The supposed "tradition" with a king is in the past a dictatorship and today unnessecary remains of an undemocratic past and the institution itself is naturally non-democratic.
See my arguments above, why is my idea of democracy delusional? It feels kind of reasonable to argue that an inherrited position is not democratic. To me its a fundamental cornerstone for democracy. Why is an inherited position with uncritical covering of an instution from the TV media more democratic and less delusional?
Rockflower:
Democracy is not a matter of cost, its a matter of principles. One of the kings duties is to reprsent his country abroad on different occassions. He certainly doesnt represent my values, why should I dont have the right to vote for another candidate on such an important position? Wouldn´t it be all better if you could vote for the current king as president, and i for another person? The majority of all peoples votes will than determine who is the rghtful chief of state in a civilised democratic way.
Jimbo33:
Is the monarch really doing a great job? I dont know cause a royal family is a perfect target for media to give their readers an aura of a happy fairy-tale and media is seldom critically towards the institution. isnt this a democratic problem since very other institution in Sweden is critically looked upon in media otherwise?
And excuse me, but why does every person in Sweden have to like the monarchy system? Youre calling it self-denial and seem to claim you just have to be happy about two people you dont know at all are getting married... The fact that you are trying to tell me what I have to believe is why this is a non-democratic institution. In a democracy things are not decided upon beforehand, but decided in fair and free elections. Why should this institution be an exception? I have hardly heard any good arguments to why the monarchy system is democratic. Please come with those instead of fairy tale stories with "how grand it was".
It is not even worth trying o have a grown up discussion with you... your arguments are totally empty and lacking total logic.
Please, grow up and express you passion for monarchy in a grown up way with arguments to support it that are not only a mix of words stating arbitrary opinions full of prejudices and generalizations....
"Is the monarch really doing a great job?" Yes, I think the King, Queen, and Victoria ARE. And even more importantly, I think the institution itself is. And apart from occasional grudging media acknowledgement of superficialities, I think the criticism is tiresomely endless. No institution or people are perfect, although some sectors in Sweden seem to demand it of the royal family and monarchy. Give them, and yourselves, a break.
The prevailing belief in Sweden that everything new is intrinsically good, by virtue of its being modern, is extraordinary. Ergo, the corrosive belief that anything old, such as the institution of monarchy is intrinsically flawed, and needs reform.
Why are they doing a good job? You only say they are, but give no reason to why. i have said that its hard for me to now, because the media is not critically towards it. Did you see the media coverage from TV before the wedding? It was full of only wishfullness for the wedding couple, but no criticism towardss it. Since most people watch tv, i think that media has the most influence on peoples opinions. The opinions reflecting the criticism towards monarchy is only found in a couple of writers in the papers, but, really nothing more.
Why cant we have an a election where peoples votes can decide who is the chief of state? You can vote for the king and I for another candidate? I dont really understand why the monarchy should be an exception in a democratic state.
And please dont mix together what people have in their homes and fashion with the political system (!) The king may represent you, but he DOESNT REPRESENT ME.
Again, why cant we have an election? The monarch is suppose to represent the swedish people, but clearly he doesnt represent everyone.Why are you trying to force your ideas on me instead of having an election regarding positions in a public institution? Our two competing ideas can than face a just judgement from THE PEOPLE. When the future president travels abroad we can both be sure of that a majority of people support him.
I dont really see how I have written that everything new is good (i love The Beatles...) But you seem to believe its good just because its old(seem, please explain if otherwise). You may think it was a happy wedding, but the only thing I saw was inherrited power manifested in the name of the entire Swedish people, although its closer than ever between the two sides.
I admire your patience to explain all this to the nonsense monarchy lovers. I just don't have it.. I mean.. I don't know if it is age or what but I find it more and more difficult to "explain what 10 is to people that don't understand one and zero"
Their justifications and explanations are just empty, they sound like the american christians justifying things with jesus and faith.
Truth is the King screws every single media appearence and it is a shame to hear the things he says... he could, at least read a bit of history and socioeconomy to try to sound like he cares.
Tired of this... give me my tax money BACK! I want to donate it to welfare.
God save the King!
There's one single aspect that I disliked, and that was the huge interest ordinary news papers and television invested in the wedding for weeks and months in advance. Remembering the previous royal wedding, that in 1976, i was boored and wondered about how the media industry has changed from reporting relevant news to irrelevant gossip.
I have just subscribed to this newsletter but am now having second thoughts about the type of article written here. I am descended from Swedes and love Sweden in all respects but live in the USA by birth and choice.
The Swedish Royal family functions in TODAY'S world as ambassadors for the Swedes around the world, and does a splendid job. They are to be honored as such and not torn apart with criticism. I cannot get enough information on the recent wedding and all that this family does..
BRAVO BRAVO Princess Victoria and Prince Daniel !! May you have a long and happy marriage with many little ones to make your own life fulfilled !!
The problem is: what if somene doesnt like this system and dont appreciate that persons are inherriting their place? Why should I dont have the right to vote for another candidate. This is not about if the royal family as such, its about the undemocratic nature of the system.
The king and this system doesnt represent me. Why should I be forced into thinking he is a symbol for Sweden, when I dont think so? i want to fell I have influence on who is representing my country, is that too much to ask for? this smells a lot like "your either with us or not"-rethoric. I have nothing against if the people would VOTE for the current kingas chief of state in a free election.