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The Swedish foreign ministry has defended the invitation of representatives for several of the world's most severe dictatorships to Saturday's royal wedding, arguing that it is accepted to protocol to invite the entire diplomatic core to ceremonial state occasions.
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Oh Sweden, you are so righteous. Righteous when you want to be....
Not sure what you are trying to say there, mate. Christians and Jews (who I presume you are referring to when you say "Israelis") do not believe in the same God. The Jews follow the God of the Old Testament, who was cruel and vengeful. The Christians follow the God of the New Testament, who is forgiving and loving. Also, Jews use synagogues, not churches. Finally, who are you saying teaches love rather than "throwing boms?" Mohamad or Jesus?
Christian's and Jews' Gods are the same one. Jesus was a Jew, so he preached for loving his God, who was the Jewish one. This necessarily means that Jesus' followers believe in the same God than Jesus' himself.
I remember, by the way, that according to the New Testament, Jesus' death was followed by God's anger in the way of an earthquake.
Moral and "democratic ideals" have no place in politics.
You don't like it? Tough.
As for the God of Jews and Christians - He is the same God and Father. Please read your Bible.
Jesus Christ is His only begotten son. In union with the Holy Ghost.
Indeed North Korea is a dictator regime, but it is very much surprising that inviting the leaders of the israeli occupying forces are not criticized. Israel has higher record of brutality than North Korea and than any other country in the world for the following reasons:
Israel was created on Palestine in 1948 by acts of terror, which resulted on massacring tens of thousands of Palestinians, wiping of 531 villages, and expelling not less than 700 000 Palestinians , in order to leave a room for the European Jews who survived the holocaust. . Admittedly, Shlomo Ben-Ami, the former Israeli foreign minister wrote that ''Nobel Jewish dream of statehood was stained for ever by a major injustice committed against the Palestinians and the Jewish state was born in sin'' (Ben-Ami, Shlomo: Scars of wars, wounds of peace: the Israeli-Arab tragedy New York : Oxford University Press2006: page48) . The Israeli new historian Benny Morris makes the argument that that the 'atrocity factor' was a major reason behind the birth of the Palestinian refugee problem (Finkelstein, Norman (1995) image and reality of the Israeli-Arab conflict London : Verso: 52) . Another israeli new historian Ilan Pappe has written a book called the ethnic cleansing of palestine (translated to swedish) in which he listed the israeli crimes in palestine.
The israel occupation of Palestinian land represents the longest ever occupation in the modern history (several decades).
Israel committed endless massacres and genocides against the Palestinian people. many of these massacres are publically known like: qibia massacre, qana massacre, sabra and shatela massacre, jenin massacre, deir yassin massacre, Dawaymeh Massacre, gaza 2008 massacre. In these massacres, the terrorist israeli army massacred children and women in cold blood, used unconventional weapons like white phosphorous. You can just google these massacres and you will get a lot of information on them. There are other massacres like the killing of 5000 palestinians during the second intifada and the killing of nearly 300 during the israeli attack on gaza 2006, and the killing of at least 18000 palestinains and lebanese during the israeli invasion of lebanon, and other massacres.
Israel is not only occupying palestine, it occupies the Golan hights in syria, southren part of lebanon, and before parts of egypt (Sinia peninsula).
According to report released by the Palestinian prisoners club in April 2009, more than 10000 Palestinians and Arabs are arrested in the Israeli prisons, 389 children among them and at least 67 have been imprisoned for past 20 years. The report also mentions that Israel kept crops of 200 Palestinian arrested since many years
Israel is a state based on racism and religious fanaticism because it gathers jews from all over the world and sending to palestine. to secure place for the jews, israel expel Palestinians out of their homes, demolish their houses and occupy their lands. Israel does that because it believes that god promises jews people the land of palestine.
Israel has built a siege which is longer than Berlin wall to segregate people according to their ethnical and religious background.
Israel has been starving the people of gaza for 4 yearts, depriving them of food, schooling and electricity, and after than, it showered them in 2009 with white phosphorous and deadly weapons, resulting in killing 1500, most of them are children. Now some could say that, israel imposed the siege because of the rockets, but the rockets are natural reaction against the israeli occupation and the israeli barbarity. Of course Palestinians need to reaction against all this israeli terror.
So, it is very ironic that inviting the leaders of the israeli pirate states to the wedding is not criticized.
for the one who ironically says that hamas might be invited, i say why not? hamas is a resistant movement, resist the israeli occupation, which is legitimate from the international law's perspective.
Israel is not the worst offender State on Earth. For example, between 1989 and 2009, 8,900 Israelis and Palestinians were killed due to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, but:
* Since 1998, more than 5,400,000 people have been killed in the Democratic Republic of Congo.
* Since 1991, more than 300,000 people have been killed in Somalia.
* Since 2003, more than 300,000 people have ben killed in Darfur, Chad and the Central African Republic.
There are 4,700,000 Palestinian refugees since 1947, but:
* The 1947 partition of India provoked the displacement of 15,000,000 people only that year.
* The 1971 Bangladesh Liberation War provoked 10,000,000 refugees only that year.
* The number of Palestinian refugees since 1947 has been equaled by the number of Iraqi refugees since 2003 only.
* Israel's independence was followed by 800,000 Jewish refugees.
what a disgusting argument!!!
It's pretty much all he does, when he's not playing basketball.
I tend to be veeeery critical with the US, but c'mon. I mean, I actually find playing golf far more important than assisting to that wedding.
Anyhow, some peple might be more worried about the oil spill in the Gulf (say Obama in this case) than Half royal Victoria and personal trainner Daniel...
Hamas is an organization that fights illegal israeli occupation.
resisting the occupation is something legal from the international law's perspective.
Palestinians hasve been under the israeli occupation for decades, and the israeli regime is takeing everyday palestinian land, so palestinians have a right to fight the criminal and terrorist israeli occupation of thier countries as the european nations resisted the nazi occupation of thier countries.
Hamas is not an extreme organization...Let's check it out:
-it came to power through democratic procedure
-its fight against the israeli occupation is legal
-hamas demands only palestinains rights, nothing more which are as follows:
a- a full liberattion of all palestinian land; that is a palestinian right whether it is accepted here in the west or not, jews were persecuted by the nazis, so palestinians are not supposed to pay thr pirce for the nazi's crime.
-hamas demands return of all palestinian refugees. that is a right for palestinains. now some say that this will lead to the israeli destruction, but that is not the issue; the issue is rather justice. refugees are needed to return to thier homes; that is what the international law articulates. now if the european jews wanna stay in palestine; fine, we dont object, but palestinians need to go back to thier country and they will....
It's true that Hamas was democratically elected....and that is an absolutely FRIGHTENING statement about the Palestinian people. With Hamas, we are talking about an organization that executes suicide bombings, uses children as human shields, children as combatants, exterminates its own people...I mean, I could seriously go on ALL DAY about the atrocities that Hamas has committed. "Not an extreme organization," you say? LMGDFAO.
I am no fan of the Israelis either. And I think they need to stop with the building on contested land, give the Palestinians a state and end the blockade (except for weapons). However, if the Palestinians could find it within themselves to NOT shoot rockets at Israel, to NOT suicide bomb Israel and to generally not give in to their natural instinct of violence.....I think the world would be on their side. Just try it. 2 years with no rockets and no violence.
Hamas is a terrorist organization. That definition doesn't depend on whether Israeli occupation of Palestine is legal or not (which is not). It depends on Hamas' activities, which consist of terrorizing Israelis and Palestinians. Furthermore, among its main goals, we can find they seek Israel's destruction, i.e., genocide. Did you read about French resistance's activities consisting of terrorizing German civilians or seeking Gernamy's anihilation? No, you didn't.
By the way, if Israeli occupation of the Palestinian territories causes the Palestinian "resistance", why has that "resistance" been existing for so much time, long before Israeli occupation of Palestine and even Israel's independence?
You are funny! Do you know that?!
The what you called ''Hamas' atrocities'' are not, in fact, atrocities. They are legitimate struggle against the occupation. Fighting the occupation is legal. The way you describe Hamas is the same way the British occupiers of USA who used to call the American freedom fighters ''savage''. It is the same way the british used call those who reacted against their occupation. Now the rockets you are talking about come as a natural react against the occupation. Which comes first: the occupation or the rockets? The occupation or hamas? Because there is israeli occupation of palestine, we have PLO and hamas. If there is no occupation, we will not have Hamas.
Sucide bombing is a reaction against the occupation. Israel is using F-16 and the most sophisticated weapons the human mind could ever invent, and kill thousands of people. Palestinians do not have weapons to defend themselves, so they use their body to react against the israeli criminal occupation. And the rockets you are talking about resulted in killing 12 israelis in 8 yuears. They are home-made can barely cause damage. Let us check who is making atrocities, the Palestinians or the Israelis:
Israel: destroyed 531 villages, expel Palestinians out of their homes, demolishing houses, building apartheid wall, arresting 11000, among them hundreds of children, committed endless of massacres (jenin, deir yassin, qibia, sabra and shatela, …ect), in gaza massacre, massacred 1500 people, demolished mousques and universities, killed peace activists, starving 1.5 million in gaza, showered civilians with white phosphorous, behave like mafia and assassinate Palestinians outside palestine, by using fake passports, collaborated with the south African apartheid regime, as it was mentioned that it wanted to sell it nuclear technology. Not to mention that israel occupies palestine, southern part of Lebanon and Golan height in Syria..
Palestinains: what Palestinians are doing are pure self-defense action against the occupation. Now it is true that the sucide bombers sometimes affect the israeli civilians, but all this come as a reaction against the occupation. Another issue, not all the Israelis are civilians, many of them came to palestine and occupied Palestinians houses because they think god gave them this land and they take the army to occupy the land. in the last israeli attacks on gaza, israel killed 1500 in gaza, most of them are civilian children, and hamas killed only 12 (even 6 israei soldiers were killed in friendly fires)….
So who is committing atrocity friend? Even if we treat the Palestinians action against israel as illegal, they barely harm the Israelis. Israel is killing palestinaisn like birds.
So there is occupation, israel expelled Palestinians out of their country, there is a siege, everyday jews come from Europe to occupy Palestinian houses since ''god promises them the land'' . for the israelis and their supporters, Palestinians should accept this. should accept to live in refugees camps, should accept the occupation!!!!
The problem, the israeli supporters, since they support an occupying and colonizing state, they do not recognize anything called Palestinian resistance. It is israel is the state of terror which its foundation was based on terror. These people do not think that Palestinians should react against the occupation. They think the israeli occupation of palestine is something good since they believe god says to the jews that they should leave Europe and go to palestine..you people are fanatic, but also pathetic. I don't know till when will you support an occupying apartheid pirate state that murder peace activists?! Anyway, the criminal apartheid state of israel will collapse one day as exactly the nazi regime collapse, and as the aparathied regime in south Africa collapse. There is occupation will last forever. The justice will come and the supporter of the criminal israeli occupation will be vanished on the history pin .
Hamas' goal is so simple: ending up the israeli occupation of palestine.
The occupier is the terrorist not the victim of occupation.
>>>The what you called ''Hamas' atrocities'' are not, in fact, atrocities. They are legitimate struggle against the occupation. Fighting the occupation is legal. The way you describe Hamas is the same way the British occupiers of USA who used to call the American freedom fighters ''savage''.>>>
Right. Using children as human shields is not an atrocity. LOL. Once you accept that your natural inclination towards violence is not the answer, then maybe something will get done.
Do you people realize that if the Palestinians did not commit a violent act against the Israelis for an extended period of time (and if the Israelis commit violent acts towards you) that the world will finally recognize you as victims in this situation? Did it ever occur to you to try another method aside from violence ? Seriously. Palestinians can complain until they are blue in the face about an Israeli occupation but if they are firing rockets into Israel, no one is going to listen. People in the Middle East seem to think that they are going to get their way by using violence or blowing things up. The civilized world does not listen to that. Has trying an approach OTHER than violence ever come to mind?
Just crack the door and you twits will slam it open with your boring diatribe.