February 14, 2012
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Updated: 15 Jul 10 11:45 CET
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Christian Democrat (KD) leader Göran Hägglund is the only party leader to have turned down an invitation to attend Stockholm Pride and KD will be the only parliamentary party without representation at the annual LGBT festival, according to the Svenska Dagbladet (SvD) daily.
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"while Hägglund was roundly booed by the Pride crowd"
lol'ed at this too
Also who does RFSL think they are, demanding that a political leader attends there events?
Why are the journalists not calling out RFSL for demanding that politicans attend there events?
This is nothing to do with gay rights.
If a politican chooses not to attend, that is there decision which should be respected.
KD are under no obligation to attend but it is interesting that they decide not to so close to an election - do they stand for tolerance as they claim, or do they stand for old conservative and backward values with regards to homosexuality. Pride is a demonstration for freedom of expression and they miss an opportunity to show support for this universal right.
Pride, as some here seem to imply, presents no challenge to heterosexuality. The festival lasts for five days in a corner of Stockholm, the pride parade takes up one afternoon - the rest of the year is one long hetero demonstration.
Objection to Pride can only be based on ignorance, fear and insecurity, there is no other explanation. Religion is no excuse - Jesus hardly represented the presumed "ideal" of the nuclear family.
Where in the Bible is Jesus held up as an example of the ideal nuclear family? I would be interested in reading that passage.
Regarding Jesus. Are you talking about the guy who went into a desert with 12 men for a while?
A few facts about gay pride.
It is supposed to celebrate an event in which a bunch of drag queens, transsexuals, camp queens and butch lesbians got in a fight with the police. No white middle class or more accurately acceptable LGBT people were at Stonewall, regardless of recent attempts to whitewash it.
Most of the people there that night were mixed race, transsexuals and drag queens. The very people that most people at pride would run a mile from if they sat down at the same table as them in a resturant outside the pride event. The people who are at pride, who are mostly homosexual and white, tend to avoid the actual type of people who were in the Stonewall night of the riot.
Also, if a politican has something better to do, such as watch paint dry, prepare legislation or go home to the kids, then that is his choice.
RFSL has no right to even think, it can dictate to a democratically elected public representative who he should be with, when or how. Sweden is a democracy and hopefully someone will tell RFSL that.
RFSL is also no bastion of purity. Check out its history and what it used to campaign for in the 70's.
Stonewall was radical because it was radical to express pride in homosexuality. Stockholm Pride 2010 remains radical but not for the same reasons. That just shows the success of the gay rights movement.
The attendance of all of the (other) party leaders (whose parties represent 94% of the electorate) at the event illustrates just how mainstream and accepted homosexual rights are in Sweden. Hägglund's non-attendance raises the question as to where he stands, that's all.
The assured success of Pride does not hinge on Hägglund's appearance and no one is dictating to him, they are criticising him - also a democratic right. Most people couldn't care less what KD think, the loss is only Hägglund's own.
If people going to pride have the same attitude as yourself, then I can full well understand Hägglund not going to it.
Mr Hägglund was loudly booed by RFSL supporters at the event in 2006, and I am not in the least suprised he doesn't feel like honouring them with his attendance this year. Perhaps if RFSL had shown their guest more respect then, Mr Hägglund might feel more postive towards them now.
How about RFSL offering Mr Hägglund some kind of reassurance (if they can) that he will be treated courteously this year?
Pride is boring.
It has, as #8 above points out, far removed from the daring Stonewall storming.
#11. Victimized? That was a long time ago. Now these "victims" hold well paid and influential positions in the press, TV, radio, advertising, the public sector, ministerial posts.
C'mon....
I used not to mind anybody´s sexual orientation . But now that its rubbed in our faces , I am beginning to hate the stink .
I personally fully support gay rights and support the right of gays to get married. I think they should be allowed to pay divorce lawyers like the rest of us and screwed over by the lawyers bill.
However pride is something that is starting to annoy me the last few years.
I have attended two pride events with friends a few years back and had a really good time. My friends however no longer go, as the LGBT community is starting to whitewash the entire pride event into something it was not and has lost its sense of humour. They are actually erasing history and rewriting it. Goebels and Stalin would have been proud.
When things like this start to happen, I question what the gay pride event is about now and what it has become.
http://news.nationalpost.com/2010/06/09/madrid-gay-pride-parade-bans-israeli-group-over-gaza-ship-raid/
Tel Aviv is the only city in the Middle East that gay arabs can live in peace without fear of being killed by the authorities.
A lot of the gay groups are starting to become as bigoted as a lot of the groups that used to discriminate aginat them years ago.
At this link RFSL actually accussed researchers who were trying to help and defned transsexual patients from bigoted psychiatrists of being nazi's.
http://www.foreningenbenjamin.se/en/26.html
The gay community has got most of its rights, but also seems determined to attack the rights of some others.
I will continue to support the rights of gay people. I will not however support or give any time whatsoever to the bigots running the gay organisations. I have no time for anti-semitism and transphobia.
Gay people are only nice if they need support. Once they have it , they become intolerant bitches .
Like you , I fail to understand the connection between sexuality and all this wierdo street frenzy . Those who have always claimed that to be gay is to be emotionally unbalanced may have a point afterall . Is it not possible for one to be "PROUD" of what they are without all this uncouth dramatization ?
When are we going to see a parade of "proud impotents " Proud sex addicts " Proud bigots" etc etc ???
I am up for any street party. They are usually good fun.
The reason I am wary of gay pride is not the event itself, but the underlying politics that is creeping in behind it, which has nothing to do with the original event in Stonewall in New York that started it.
I used to go to the gay pride event with my two gay friends, who now no longer go to it either, for the same reaons as me.
They have removed everyone of colour from the original event, in effect whitewashing it and then the camp gays, the butch lesbians, transsexuals and drag queens. Now they put forward that only white middle class gay people were involved in the riot, when in actual fact they were not, as they would not have frequented that bar.
They have rewritten history, removing anyone found to be inconvenient, removing anyone who is not masculine, white and middle class. ie everyone who was there. The fact that antisemitism is creeping into the pride events as is transphobia, makes me look at it in a very different light. Pride has went that way in Madrid and Toronoto and looks like doing the same in other places.