Schoolgirls fined for bugging teachers

dont these kind a pupils learn manners in their Schools in Sweden ??? or they do only learn what is Sweden , how can u call your self Swedish , how can you show yourself that you the most better person among all the different nation on the face of this earth .

i think School agencies must need to think abou to create a separate department in swedish schools to teach them manners.

@khurram.k

It's called lack of respect & it is what 99.5% of all youngsters suffer from, be them European, Asian, African, American etc, something corporal punishment can swiftly correct.

Now the parents have to pay the fine, and the penalty for not controlling their kids. I'm all for corporal punishment. It worked for me and everyone I know.

It teaches the most important things in life, Respect and adherence to the rules. They are there for a reason.

@khurram.k

Not just manners, but responsibility and accepting accountability for your actions.

Beat your kids! It's good for them.

enterprising, are their jobs for them available in Swedish intelligence agencies ?

beating children will only convince them that beatings hurt and that they should not get caught. Unless you really enjoy beating children ..........

I'm not sure what the article means by 'early teens' - the pupils must have been 15 or older

Calling the police in seems a bit excessive. At my school this would have resulted in a trip to the headmaster's office and a serious amount of detention time. Meanwhile, off the record, the teacher's would have been impressed and amused with the shenanigans.

If not for Facebook, these kids could've gone off the hook without anyone ever knowing. But I'm pretty much impressed with the girls' audacity to plant a bugging device so they could spy on their teachers. But I think that they should be fined more and do tough community service for what they have done.

Frisky girls too cute, this made my day.

The result of movie. "Good learner".

HANG ON!

Girls put items available from a gadget shop in a teachers lounge to listen in while the teachers "discuss what grades to award them???" and then the teachers use facebook as proof of this horrible crime, AND then it makes it to court???

Got hypocrisy?

Got wasting court time?

Got teachers not knowing how to respond to a situation that should have been handled in-house?

Good luck to those girls if they want to holiday in the States now.

Congratulations. The girls did something illegal (not to mention stupid) and made sure they got caught. They got the attention they so desperately craved.

Hangings to good for them... :-)

Kids looking for an advantage in getting good grades by surreptitious means is certainly unheard of! This has never occured before.

And 'corporal punishment' supporters flock to tell everyone how well it worked on them. Same story, over and over again; I was a naughty kid and only thing that kept me straight was a good beating.

You know what worked on me? Being treated like an adult, being explained why what I did was wrong, being shown to act respectful without resorting to violence and anger, being reasoned with and good old commonsense.

Of course, that takes a lot more time and effort, and it is also expected that you are able to articulate; so I can understand why 'corporal punishment' is so much more interesting, as it is so much easier and effortless.

@khurram.k: It is not the schools task to raise the kid, that is the job of the parent. The school should only be responsible for providing the students with knowledge and a good education. If you can't be arsed to raise a kid, don't get one!

Of course we only have their word that they were *trying to find out their grades* LOL

More than likely they were looking for dirt to spread about their classmates on Facebook

Good for the kids. There are things one can not learn in school, and exploring is the way to go. As most old quotes state, the quicker you can break free of your families ideologies, the better chance you have of surviving. I bet these kids knew about the internet news a while back about teachers using student computers to spy on them while at home.

So anyone acting like a parent here in self-righteousness, you need to take a long look in the mirror and wonder if you are only fooling yourself, and ask if your child really sees who you are.

The reason why our children are so messed up is because of their parents. three divorces, do not ask questions about your child's life, do not teach them about sex, when parents are such a bad role model because what they do for a buck at work, and no one else is contributing to a future generation, it is all taken stolen by our parents. No wonder the most read book by teachers is the "Teenage Liberation Handbook". I suggest reading material for parents on how to think of something other than yourselves, your children are not object one is to posses. Oh yea, lets not forget the parent who blames their kids for their divorce, or makes them a punching bag to still get back at an ex-husband.

You adults are the problem. And if you could keep your hands off the children; well, then our children could be our future. Keep your stinking hands off.

I wouldn't necessarily say corporal punishment is the way to go, it certainly didn't work for me, I was back 10 min later doing the same thing that got me spanked in the first place. What did work for me was taking away my free time that I'd spend with friends, and making me do things around the house instead. However, just threatening to spank my younger brother turned him into an angel.

I think it is ridiculous how Swedish adults are so surprised that children are disrespectful and don't obey, and that parents are fined for the grievances their kids cause to those around them, when the parents aren't allowed to discipline their kids. I'm not just talking about spanking. I have heard stories from parents who are scared to even take away a child's cell phone after running the bill too high because the child will call BRIS or some other child helpline and scream abuse. You can't lay a hand on your kids here without someone thinking you're going to beat them senseless. I was at Skansen last week, when some little boy came running past and his mother shouting after him "someone grab him!" and no one did. They all had these looks of horror on their faces. "ME?! Grab someone else's child?!".

You can't complain to the parents that these girls misbehaved and need discipline when the parents are more than likely too scared to do just that.

You people who want all children to be traumatized by violence because of what two girls have done, are cruel. I'm so glad I live in Scandinavia (Norway), where all violence against children is forbidden by law. Posttraumatic stress disorders are very painful.

In the U.S. they traumatize children en masse, and no wonder there are 4 to 5 times more killings there than in my country.

People used to think it was necessary to "spank" adult members of the community, college students, military trainees, and prisoners. In some countries they still do. In our country, it is considered assault and battery (sexual battery at that) if a person over the age of 18 is "spanked", but only if over the age of 18.

Child bottom-slapping/battering vs. DISCIPLINE:

Child bottom-slapping/battering (euphemistically labeled "spanking","swatting","switching","smacking", "paddling",or other cute-sounding names) for the purpose of gaining compliance is nothing more than an inherited bad habit.

Its a good idea for people to take a look at what they are doing, and learn how to DISCIPLINE instead of hit.

There are several reasons why child bottom-slapping/battering isn't a good idea. Here are some good, quick reads recommended by professionals:

Plain Talk About Spanking

by Jordan Riak

The Sexual Dangers of Spanking Children

by Tom Johnson

NO VITAL ORGANS THERE, So They Say

by Lesli Taylor MD and Adah Maurer PhD

Just a handful of those helping to raise awareness of why child bottom-slapping/battering isn't a good idea:

American Academy of Pediatrics,

American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry,

American Psychological Association,

Center For Effective Discipline,

Churches' Network For Non-Violence,

Nobel Peace Prize recipient Archbishop Desmond Tutu,

Parenting In Jesus' Footsteps,

Global Initiative To End All Corporal Punishment of Children,

United Nations Committee on the Rights of the Child.

In 26 countries, child corporal punishment is prohibited by law (with more in process). In fact, the US was the only UN member that did not ratify the Convention on the Rights of the Child.

The US states with the highest crime rates and the poorest academic performance are also the ones with the highest rates of child corporal punishment.

There is simply no evidence to suggest that child bottom-slapping/battering instills virtue.

I wonder if the kids actually considered just -asking- the teachers how to improve their grades. Or perhaps the teachers had told them how: to work harder or hand their work in on time !