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So you want to eat
"a strain of potato that is authorised for the likes of glue or paper-making, but not human consumption"
I suppose if you want your guts all glued up go ahead be a Guinea pig
On the contrary many GM products have been proved in tests to be of superior quality.
One day the nutters in Brussels will see the light, as they eventually did after wasting millions of taxpayers hard earned dosh on their square tomatoes and straight cucumbers.
Big deal.
I hope their days are numbered they are a disgrace to the scientific community that spawned it and has been taken over by nut jobs and liars bending everything to their own ends. Screw them.
: watch penn n tell bullshit episode on gm food
If you looked at the natural ancestors of most modern food crops, you wouldn't even know what you were looking at. Read about the origin of corn (also called Indian corn or maize) http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/25/science/25creature.html -- Now the most important single grain crop. The American Indians learned to modify a native grass, teosinte, probably by selective breeding.
I suspect that this fear of GMOs goes on more in Europe because Europeans have renounced organized religion. In America, not only does organized religion survive, but there are all these tent meetings with everyone jumping up and down and talking in tongues. In Europe, they have all these beautiful churches that no one goes to because they pretend to be modern atheists.
But European atheists don't have the courage of their faith. The are all drawn to some form of substitute, disorganized religion that boils down to some weird nature worship: pantheism or some reversion to pre-Christian pagan religion like Druidism. The only real core belief is that you are not supposed to allow other people to intervene in nature. So modifying potato gene for disease resistance becomes taboo. Europeans fall back on the "precautionary principle" while ingesting ancient herbal remedies that have never been tested for safety in a modern lab (not to mention fine Moroccan hashish).
In the meantime, Americans, who don't pretend to be atheists, go to church, jump up and down and shout, roll on the floor talking in tongues, and finish off a great Sunday of fun with a church picnic of genetically modified corn bread and potato salad.
Actually 10,000 years ago, when man started to farm with agriculture instead of hunting one of the first crops to be developed was wheat. The wheat was genetically selected to make stronger strains. This happened in the Jericho near the Dead Sea, which is the world's oldest city.
The level of ignorance shown on this blog about the Roma,
and the abysmal genetically modified food--an American invention--defies common sense, logic and any hint of scientific
observation or knowledge thereof.
This blog might as well be in Tennessee or Alabama c. 1950.
Genes do not act in isolation and chemical pathways are altered (otherwise it would have no effect).
The genes being inserted are not always from the same species.
The risk is unexpected effects will occur due to full lack of understanding about the pathways in each organism.
I am for GMO, but its should be supervised and controlled. The fact that an experimental batch somehow "got out" should be a huge concern. How fast do you think a gene can spread? The fact the the EU as an organisation on behalf od all Europeans is doing something I think is great, coordination and a level playing field, what's wrong with that ?
I don't understand what religion has to do with anything. The discussion on GM food is a discussion between two groups of scientists. One group is bribed scientists, who depend on GM corporations for their survival as researchers, while the other group has nothing to do with them.
I agree with you Europe is less religious than the Americas or the Moslem world. For the fundamentalists, life in this world is transient and unimportant compared to "life after death that is permanent". For Europeans this world is the best they have and would like to make a better of it not just for the greedy corporations but also for the rest of society. .
For them it is a win win situation.
1. create a GM seed that is roundup resistant ( lets not talk about the effects of the nasty stuff in roundup getting into the food chain)
2. Get farmer A to grow the GM crop and let nature (wind) spread the GM pollen to Farmer B's field.
3. Illegally trespass on Farmer B's field and 'prove' that Farmer B's non-GM crop has traces of Monsanto's GM seed in it which Farmer B has not paid for (because he did not want to have the Monsanto GM grain). Monsanto then forces Farmer B to pay them a licence fee for growing the GM crop that he never wanted.
4. As well as the GM pollen that fertilised Farmer B's crop, The roundup that Farmer A is now using in large doses to kill the weeds around his roundup resistant GM crop is also blown on the wind to Farmer B' crop which is not roundup resistant and kills his non GM crop.
Monsanto then tells Farmer B that if he just knuckles under and buys There GM seed and roundup, he will be just as happy as Farmer A and a slave to Monsanto for the rest of his life
"When did people start thinking they are smarter than nature?" This is not about smartness, but different purposes: The crop is meant as a human food which is somehow not the original reason why these species had evolved. All crops grown now are already modified by human by crossbreeding, and it is definitely more efficient than the original species.
WHY DO YOU THINK THAT INTENTIONAL GENE VARIATIONS ARE MORE DANGEROUS THAT THE THOUSANDS OF NATURAL MUTATIONS THAT HAPPEN ALL THE TIME? The same gene mutations that allowed natural evolution? Your belief system seems more religious than scientific.
And it is foolish to think that just because someone disagrees with you that they are bribed. It is foolish and smacks of a certain self-righteous arrogance.
The purpose is that GMO foods can produce far more food per hectare. It's that simple.
Maybe someone should do us all a favour and feed these 'recessive genes' to the people who start thinking that it is :)
@jhk "inserting a "gene" within a chromosome" maybe you need to read a little more and you would know they don't just insert a gene into chromosome it also requires a promoter.
How dare America for trying to feed the world!!!
Enjoy your money now america...one day it will only be good for compost....do you remember what that even is?
If there is enought food in the world to feed the growing population - it is only because of GMO. The Investment...the labs...The researchers - all that needs to be paid for.
The USA sends huge amounts of food to poor countries - this would cost far more if we farmed like the cavemen in Europe.
Which part of my tragic mexican saga didnt you get?
Mexican tomato farmer (Pepo) has been sewing the seeds from his own fruit for 15 generations, every year he plants these to get his new crop, then one day his tomatoes stop making seeds that will grow...curiously he gets some samples analised to find that 'Pedro' his neighbours dirty GM crop of tomatoes has 'CROSS POLINATED' with his, and as Pedro's crop was using terminator technology (seed sterilization), then this has been passed onto Pepo's crop...So then Pepo has no seeds to grow with...so he buys some more with money he wasn't prepared to spend, and the same thing happens again..What the f"¤ck....this time he complains to the loving people at Monsanto, who then sue his poor mexican A$$ for using there 'technology'.....
Comprehende? No steeling little mexican? just steeling big fat american again? Can you see poor little Pepo's predicament? :D
By selling all the crop you grow you more than make up for the seed you have to buy next year. Plus that seed you buy will yeild a far better crop.
I don't see any other solution for Monsanto - if they didn't use seed terminator technology all the farmers that wanted to steel traits that were developed for millions could do so.
Why does microsoft make you enter an activation code??? TO KEEP PEOPLE FROM PIRATING WHAT THEY HAVE DEVELOPED!
"In less rich countries, hundreds of millions of people rely heavily on small farms which produce foods for the region. If these farms begin to use Monsanto's terminator technology, and cannot afford to buy new genetically engineered seeds from Monsanto the following year, many of the people in the region may starve. Under normal circumstances, food could be brought in from other regions. However, many of those other regions will likely have the same problems with famine due to Monsanto's terminator technology. "It's terribly dangerous," says Hope Shand, "half the world's farmers are poor and can't afford to buy seed every growing season, yet poor farmers grow 15 to 20% of the world's food and they directly feed at least 1.4 billion people - 100 million in Latin America, 300 million in Africa, and 1 billion in Asia. These farmers depend upon saved seed and their own breeding skills in adapting other varieties for use on their (often marginal) lands."
http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/pages/Exposing-Monsanto/138345986202461?ref=ts
Let me break it down for you
Non GMO (conventional) crops require harsh chemical cocktails for both insect and weed control.
GMO crops require no pesticide and they only require very light chemicals like roundup for weed control. Yes - you brainwashed fools - Roundup actually breaks down into harmless components once it makes contact with the ground. It only kills a plant if it makes contact with the leaves on the way from the sprayer.
Dr. Arpad Pusztai Phd formerly of the UK's Rowett Institute was fired after he told the truth on UK TV regarding the effect of GMO potatoes on lab animals and their immune system--he said it was terrible. Do the research online yourself and you'll find it all there.
it made no sense at all to me
1 potatoes are not normally propagated with flowers or seeds so the talk of flowers is just plain weird
2 the other type is not for human cumsuption it seems .... then what are we worried about ?
is it just make a noise because we can?
Agent Orange
PCBs
DDT
Recombinant Bovine Growth Hormone
--- and Aspartame.
...and then there is the usual IG Farben connection as well.
Now it won't go wrong with terminator seeds and roundup as well, don't you think?
Surely not, nothing to see, move along!
So many of you are so completely brainwashed by your euromedia and europoliticians.
you reject science when it comes to GMO because it makes you feel better about your backwards agriculture.
when claim to embrace science when it comes to climate change because it makes you feel better about not being able to spend afford as many "things" as the "greedy" americans.
In a way i don't blame you because non of you know anything about modern agriculture. But I have news for you, the EU will have to give in to GMO or else you will all be paying 500kr for a tomato and all your farmers will be bankrupt.
"Roundup actually breaks down into harmless components once it makes contact with the ground. It only kills a plant if it makes contact with the leaves on the way from the sprayer"
You either work for Monsanto or are very gullible. Roundup is classed as a dangerous chemical, that should not come into contact with the skin and is detrimental to animals. that come into contact with it. It kills fish if it gets into rivers. If you think is so harmless why not drink a bottle full?
Roundup currently kills anything it comes in contact with except Monsanto's own Roundup resistant seed. But Mutations always happen in all forms of life and already new roundup resistant weeds are coming up. So Monsanto is developing new herbicides that will kill these new weeds and of course anything else that it comes into contact with that is not produced by Monsanto.
The most worrying aspect of GM seed is not the seed itself but the fact that because it is resistant to Roundup farmers can spray it heavily, and they do. The chemicals go into the plant and remain in the food that is produced from the roundup sprayed plants.
When I first started farming in the 1950's DDT was the most common pesticide and we all used it, believing the assurances of companies like Monsanto that it was safe and it sure as hell killed them pesky bugs. DDT was finally banned in the US in 1972 and in the rest of the world a year later.
Although I am no longer a farmer, I still grow my own produce and I propagate my own seed. I will never buckle under to Monsanto and become just another slave.
I like how you ignored that fact that pesicides are not needed with GMO crops.
The farmers in Sweden are using far more dangerous chemicals - and spending a lot more on input costs on chemicals as well.
No offense, but if you were a farmer in Europe then you really don't know much about modern aggriculture.
P.S there is nothing wrong with being American, I'm an American living in Sweden and i love where I'm from and I love where I am now. But I also have a brain and I use it. I don't buy into the corporate b/s that is fed to the American public. I research things myself. Monsanto and GMO foods are not the answer. They never will be the answer. These foods make people sick, they bankrupt small farms, they kill wildlife, they are bad for the environment, they use more pesticides, etc. etc. etc. And these corporate giants know they are making people sick but they don't care because they are making $$$ Watch for Food Inc and find out for yourselves.