February 13, 2012
Published: 9 Sep 10 16:03 CET | Double click on a word to get a translation
Updated: 9 Sep 10 19:44 CET
Online: http://www.thelocal.se/28894/20100909/
Two 18-year-old women died after being hit by a train just south of Stenungsund in western Sweden on Thursday afternoon.
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so were they stuck on the tracks or what?
@Localer: Er... An emergency break would hardly have helped considering the speed the train was going at and how close they were. By "seeing them from a long way a way" they mean seconds before impact. :(
Emergency brakes can stop a train going at 100 km/h in 250 m. Seeing them from a long way away would imply at least 1 km or more.
May be some brakes were applied but if they weren't they should have been since it would have given much more time for the girls to get away from whatever they were stuck in.
I always though that you needed 0.5-2 km to stop a loaded passenger train safely without risking injury to those ombord?
Of course there have been cases of suicide by train
it is sad when they get so scared they can't react to save your own life, the only sure thing one can gather it is not the trains fault! High speed rolling guillotines are dangerous people!
Some unconfirmed witness reports say that the girls were listening to mp3s and had headphones on - which may explain their slow reactions.
Feel very sorry for the families - according to the Swedish press the first emergency worker on the scene was the father of one of the girls
The report said the "train" saw them trains do not have eyes or brains, besides if the driver saw them "a long way away and applied the emergency "BRAKE" it takes a passenger train travelling at speed circa 3/4 of a mile (1,3km) to stop.
This is why you should not loiter on train tracks
Engineers will need several weeks/months to calculate what was reasonable/unreasonable. Speculation a few hours after the accident is pointless.
On the other_hand the initiation of these calculations thereupon, relies on the operators (drivers) input.
There is 50 meter from the point where the driver can see the crossing (there is a sharp curve). For 100 km/hour this means 3 seconds. It takes 2 seconds to react. No one of them had a chance. Neither the driver nor the girls.
SInce the driver is pretty high up he might have seen them about 20 meters earlier - but that was too late anyhow.
There are 3 meter high bushes - or "weed" - on both sides of the tracks. They stop pretty much of the sound.
Eyewitnesses said the sound signal started at the same moment the girls put their feet on the first rail. The din not even had the time to look over the shoulder before they where hit.
The girls where speaking to each other and not encapsulated by headsets & music. One of the girls did definitely not have headset - it was found elsewhere.
The sound signal have had problems before. The day right before for example. http://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/article7757674.ab (if link fails look at Aftonbladet 10 September)
I know school kids have had problems earlier with the signals.
So now when facts are revealed - please stick to the facts!
The truth is bad enough.
Your knowledge of train accidents (and everything else) is uncanny. It's good to know we have you around to share it with us.