February 23, 2012
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A 32-year-old cyclist who suffered minor injuries when hit by a car last autumn has been fined for cycling on the road.
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Fin means anyhting from sweet to proper. When someone says, Du är så fin it's quite a compliment.
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Cycling to work every day (around 7 km) I see on average 5 cars jumping a red light, 3 cars parked on the bike lane, I get cut of twice, 96 % of car drivers doesnot use indicator lights and 100% doesnot use rearview and side mirrors.
Of course also 50 % uses there telephone while driving but that is allowed in Sweden (just as it is in Albania).
And of course swedes drive too big cars. Rule 1; if you can't drive, for sure don't drive a big car.
Is there anybody out there who thinks this is OK?
1. He should not have been on the road to start with
2. There was a cycle path which he should have been on
3. He intentionaly tried to anger the driver by blocking him from over taking.
If a car was messing about on a cycle path everyone would scream and shout about it.
People on bikes also have to follow the rules, they dont have some free right to do what they feel.
The driver should have reversed back and had another go.
once again the justice system fails.
If a car was messing around on the cycle lane you dont see sane people go and drive a bike into it.
In a rational country the driver would have lost his license for 6-12 months with a fine to cover the bike damage and personal damage to the cyclist.
If someone is using their own physical power to transport themselves around I think it is the duty of the person with the easier mode of transport to give way. What is the worse thing that happens, you are 10 seconds behind where you would have been?
It's illegal to cycle on roads in Sweden?
"Sweden is a very bicycle unfriendly country."
I don't know where are you from and how many country have visited so far. For me Sweden is very bicycle friendly country compare to 26 provinces of China, MIlan and Rome of Italy, Lyon of France.
I agree with your other comments. There are quite many people doesn't care about traffic rules out side the city center.
My personal opinion for this case is, both driver and cycler are guilty. First cycler are so reckless, he actually not only put himself in danger but also some one else too. Driver is also too bad, actually I call him a neuropathy. What ever cycler take his way he should not do like that, it actually like planned killing.
This cyclist is an idiot, he is well known in the area for frequently holding up traffic with his ego. On that strecth of road there are practically no pedestrians and very few cyclists. This is not the first time its happened with him.
He needs a few large fines to sort him and his ego out as he is a danger to himself and other road users. Its a pity the car didnt hit him harder!
Since the traffic more or less stood still, the second lane could be use to overtake a lot of traffic and in some cases make people angry... OR it could be filled up and merged into one lane later on again so no one can overtake anything really.
Now this was this guy who thought he wanted to become a traffic police and make sure no one overtakes anything, so he took his car to the middle of both lanes and didn't move at all more than necessary to keep up the pace with the right lane.
So when i tried to overtake him anyway (there was still room for another car), he tried to push me into the wire fence.
I could imagine this guy to be that bicycling guy.. what a jerk! Some people just tried to act as a law in the traffic, making their OWN laws. I, for one, is glad it came to this outcome. The law clearly says that you should not interfere with other traffic (not speeding up when other traffic tried to pass you and so on).
in the center of the road...the county has made 'rumble stripes' on the center lines...so if you are an obnoxious biker, this is for you :)))
In this case, a motorist deliberately ran into a cyclist with his car, and injured him. The state then approved his actions. The clear message to motoring Swedes is that if you see a pedestrian or cyclist on a part of the road where he/she is not supposed to be, mow him/her down with our blessing. What happens when a child wanders into the road? Is it OK to run him/her down too? I assume now that it is. The Death Race movies spring to mind, but that was supposed to be fiction. No one thought a country like Sweden might actually be mad enough to make it come true.
This is the law of the wild west. IIs this really the kind of society you guys want to live in?
Many countries, among which the south of Italy. And although there is another kind of danger there, swedish car drivers are actually more incapable than Italians.
At least in Italy they don't pretend to be bike friendly by putting down a few crappy bike lanes. (my comment about sweden was of course a bit exagerated because of the fact that sweden pretends to be such a clean and sensible country).
I bike around 5 days per week for almost 30 years now, and Stockholm is bad. Of course if you want to go and compare it to China.....but I like to compare rather to countries which are really comparable....not 3rd world countries.
For the rest, (after reading the comments of some here), saying that because the guy should have been on the bike lane it was good to hit him is just insane. If you like that kind of justice move to Iran.
If I kick of the mirror of every car in STockholm I see on a single trip to work that does something that is not allowed in traffic, I will have to kick of around 300 mirrors......I wonder if that would earn me your respect?
The article only has the story from the cyclists point of view.
The court cleared the motorist not because they thought is would be a laugh but because evidence presented was presumably contrary to the cyclists bias opinion.
the true course of events could very well be that the cyclists in his attempts to antagonise the driver broke hard to slow the car down and the car could not slow down as quick as the bike.
Believe me, there are people that stupuid out there.
Its only one persons view that he was hit on purpose, dont be so stupid to assume it must be true because its on a news article on a website!
In this situation it was also impossible to prove that there was any intention to "ram from behind". Most likely the situation was ruled an accident, created by the cyclist, hence the car driver was let go without any fine or punishment. Which is fine if you would understand the law. Sometimes you have to be able to see through all the drama that the media usually creates around this kind of situations.
Then understand that the cyclist is well known for doing like this, day after day.
The operative words are "seemed" and "chose". On looking further, one can see that the court ruled it was an accident.
Beware of articles that pretend to be based on fact but are structured to encourage emotional reaction only.
I miss real journalism.
Well put.
So many opinions here are based upon reading only this article - and let's face it, it is very thin on actual facts.
Fact - the 500kr fine should have been more and he should have his picture on billboards all over the city with "Imbecile" in big bold letters.
Whats next? "its the train drivers fault i was hit when i laid on the tracks?
Its the hunters fault i was shot when i dressed as a elk and ran through the woods in hunting season?
Its the Bus companys fault for having a bus stop at the part of the road i decided to drive off onto the path and hit it.....
Ha ha ..
In any case it'll teach the cyclist some manners.
"Sweden is a very bicycle unfriendly country."
From more than 15 countries in Europe and North America I visited, Sweden is the most friendly country for riding bicycle!
Its the hunters fault i was shot when i dressed as a elk and ran through the woods in hunting season? "
These arguments are invalid. The driver of the car in this situation purposefully drove into the cyclist, knowing full well what he was doing. That is called dangerous driving. Not to mention being mentally unstable.
What it boils down to is this - the car driver was rewarded for physically harming someone else.
If the cyclist had fallen, hit his head and died would people still be on the car driver's side?
If I waslk down the middle of the E4 motorway between lanes is the cars fault if it hits me?? No its my fault for being stupid enough to be there! SAme goes for this idiot cyclist
I still say, serious bikers going 30-40km/hr do not belong on the cycle tracks.. they belong on the road.
But whether the biker was wrong or right, I'm surprised there are so many people saying the biker was more wrong than the driver who INTENTIONALLY hit him with a CAR.
Do you all think it was the old lady's fault who died from the idiot who attacked them for parking too slow in the parking lot a few months ago?? Her and her husband were taking their time and the attacker thought they were instigating him. Why did he get punished and not the old couple?
Yes. If you were walking down E4, there was a car behind you, going the same speed as you walking, honking at you, telling you to move, and then decides to run you over.. yes, it would be the cars fault. You don't agree??