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The supreme commander of the Swedish Armed Forces (Försvarsmakten) stressed the importance of the troops' work in Afghanistan to parliamentary defence and foreign affairs committees on Tuesday as the country mourned the loss of a soldier this weekend.
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The question anyone for the war should ask is why are we there? What is the goal? and what is the expected outcome if the goal is successful?
At least for Sweden in my humble opinion their is no logical reason to be their. They are supporting a war that was started by the US when in the late 90's when they supported Isreals bombing of Lebanon. That is was prompted Osama Bin Laden to crash plains into the Twin Towers and consequently triggered a Taliban head hunt in Afghanistan. Suffice to say, Sweden played no part in any of these events, so why are they their?
It could be argued that they are supporting their allies, but frankly as an American, while the help is appriciated in any regard, it's a war that is very unamerican and has little support in the US who's polls on the war are no different then in Sweden. The Americans want out fo the war, Swedes want out of the war....... why are we still there?
more swedes are killed by muslims in sweden than by muslims in afghanistan - go figure
during the crusades which lasted for about 200 years 1.5 million were killed. this is the biggest proportional religious conflict per capita (300 odd mill) communism has killed far more, but less per capita. Communism has killed about 100 million very very innocent people and that's a fact dating the last 100 years, not 1000 years ago.
You ask why are we still there?Well we knocked the Taliban out of power and were charged to help the nation get back on its feet. Construction, Education...etc. That's the mission. The insurgents however have us in a bind so we can't build if we're fighting.
should we just leave after everything? Let the Taliban take control again?
You meant... the way you helped Iraq to get back on its feet.
@asian369, Different nations, different reasons. Iraq is a different case but still security/reconstruction. If the US had left in the wake of Iraq, there would have been a mass vaccuum and millions would have died, same case in Afghanistan. Whether you like it or not, the troops have to remain until either a political reconciliation between the govt/insurgents or the security forces are ready to fight and that could be a decade or more.
this just shows that more young Swedish Men are sissys...
I read once that Swedish men cant talk to a woman inless he is drinking or drunk.. is this true?..i know it is off topic but i never thought to ask in till now
I hope Swedes realize the sacrifices their servicemen and women have done and given for their country. The coalition will not forget them. The Swedes should not let this tragedy stop them from engaging with the enemy and patrolling in enemy territory. They need to patrol and expand their influence and show the local people how they mean a sense of calm and stable life rather than chaotic destruction that insurgents are bringing. If Sweden is really prepared to stay and fight, they need to send more troops or SOF to aid them.
they are well trained by the Soviets im not shocked that they beat them same thing is going on over there now.. Americans are teaching them every thing they know so one day they will comeback and use that same training on US
"That being said reconciliation with the less extreme groups is certaintly possible with time. The Taliban know foreign troops can't stay forever, but do the Taliban and other insurgent groups have the numbers to exhaust for that wait? I doubt it."
again I think you are mistaken..the Taliban wants NOTHING more than to rule the Muslim world..and make to kill all non Islam nations..you must have forgotten one small detail with the sleeper cells in America and other parts of the world.. Osama laid in wait quietly for several years before 9/11,Yemen Africa and other bombings..they have nothing but time on their hands..the United Sates and Sweden and every other country needs to pull out now and let them hash their own problems out...they have been fighting their war for 2500 years.. NOTHING the US,NATO,UN, or any thing else is, can, and will be able to stop those people.. we need to just watch our boarders, tighten immigration and be done with the whole mess.. you strike me as the kind of American that thinks war is peace..i am willing to bet you are a republican?
"and to kill all non Islam nations"
and
"they have been fighting their war for 1500 years"
There 's much talk about Afghanistan being the USA's new Vietnam. Sweden did not send any troops to help Uncle Sam then – on the contrary, Prime Minister Olof Palme was himself at least leading one demonstration against the war, walking arm in arm with North Vietnam's ambassador to Moscow, here in Stockholm. I myself preferred to not shake hands with US's ambassador to Stockholm, Soul Brother Jerome Holland, when I was introduced to him.at the Grand Hotel in 1972, because of Damn Nam. Would I shake hands with today's ambassador? Certainly, whilst praying for peace. With honour.
http://www.google.se/search?hl=en&clie...q=&gs_rfai=
Today, it's difficult to imagine Carl Bildt (Heaven forbid) or our Fredrik the Greatest Moderate or even the Liberal's General Björklund the deputy prime minister leading an anti-American war demonstration. This is partly due to the visible line of demarcation drawn by baby Bush : “ Either you are with us ( US) or you are with the terrorists”.
http://www.google.se/search?hl=en&clie...q=&gs_rfai=
The Vietnam War is very different from the War in Afghanistan, as different as the Vietcong are different from the Taliban.
Afghanistan ruined the USSR ( plus that Germany paid cash for East Germany)
Today, the Russian Federation must be looking on with a wry smile or with some sympathy for
those
“That can do what’s never been done
That can win what’s never been won “
Brother Obama was awarded the Noble Prize for Peace (and so were Henry A. Kissinger and Le Duc Tho.)
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/
Sweden , with less than 600 militarists in Afghanistan, is playing a very small subsidiary role, but the death of a single Swedish soldier there, is one death too many...
Now, here's the good news, the best way forward in Afghanistan, consonant with Psalm 34:14 :seek peace, and pursue it.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/20/world/as...0afghan.html?hp
If this eventually succeeds then Brother Obama should be awarded the Nobel Prize for Peace, for a second time.
Is there anybody who would grudge him that?