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Vattenfall invests in North Sea wind farm

Published: 21 Oct 10 14:36 CET | Print version
Online: http://www.thelocal.se/29750/20101021/

Swedish energy group Vattenfall said on Thursday it would invest about one billion euros ($1.4 billion) along with Germany's Stadtwerke Munchen (SWM) in a 80-turbine offshore wind farm in the North Sea.

Vattenfall said building of the site, some 70 kilometres off the German island of Sylt, near Denmark, would start in 2012 and be completed in 2014.

The farm is set to have a capacity of 288 megawatts, enough to supply power to 500,000 households, making it one of the main offshore projects in the world.

The "Dan Tysk" joint venture will be held at 51 percent by state-owned Vattenfall, and at 49 percent by SWM.

In September, the Swedish company inaugurated what is currently the world's largest offshore wind farm off the English coast.

Vattenfall, which has been widely criticised in Sweden for running heavily polluting coal plants, especially in Poland, said last month it would implement a new strategy aiming to reduce carbon dioxide emissions.

The company is Europe's fifth largest electricity producer its largest supplier of urban heating.

AFP/The Local (news@thelocal.se)

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20:58 October 21, 2010 by DavidtheNorseman
1/15th the output of a serious coal plant (at 4000MW)...come on fusion developers or solar brickmakers! We don't even have any longitudinal studies on massive windfarm ecological effects......sigh.
21:58 October 21, 2010 by wxgirl
That's definitely interesting to find out its downwind weather and ecosystem impacts.
22:10 October 21, 2010 by Swedesmith
Small steps, folks. Small steps. There is no (at present) magic solution to ending our dependance on fossil fuels. Solar, wind, biomass, and hydrogen are all small steps towards the goal. Nuclear offers the best solution as of now but there is the little problem of what to do with the spent fuel.
23:41 October 21, 2010 by wxman
How effin ugly.
01:35 October 22, 2010 by Twiceshy
Coal power plants emit more radiation than nuclear power plants (it's true, look it up).

Does wind power have an ecological impact? Sure... So does a person farting into the air, but in neither case is there reason to believe that it's a significant impact.
02:32 October 22, 2010 by Ausc
Nuclear waste can be safely stored in places like central Australia where there is stable geological and government conditions and is sparesly populated.

I dare say that with time (measured in decades), the waste material may become an economically usable product through science and innovation.

Nuclear reactors represent the only current technology which includes the need for large, stable and relatively green energy generation at a base load level. Wind is nice and maybe economically viable, but I have personally experienced the frustration of when it stops blowing and the resulting rolling black-outs going through the business district (ie an opportunity cost).
04:17 October 22, 2010 by svenskamerikansk
I wonder how many birds will survive that gauntlet.
06:04 October 22, 2010 by Jarvilainennen
#7:

If only seagulls were so stoopid as to go and fly in masses against those things. Seagulls are like humans, reproducing like crazy, loud and arrogant beasts, crapping everywhere. Selfish sh*it-cannons taking all the food from ducks and other things..

I think that offshore-windmill stuff is a million times better solution than building them on land. Much better efficency.

But until we have mile after mile of them, we´re stuck with nuclear.
10:29 October 22, 2010 by Twiceshy
As for the comment which said this is just 1/15th of a coal power plant:

The article says this powers 500,000 households, so your "serious power plant" would power 7.5 million households which I'm pretty sure is less than what Sweden has.

A quick google search says Sweden's nuclear power plants are about 2000-3000 MW each, and that's with several reactors per plant. 288 MW seems pretty good for a single wind farm which can be built in 3 years.
15:13 October 26, 2010 by Janis Rochester
The wind and solar energy folks use a little subterfuge in specifying the power. For example, the 288 MW power plant mentioned above is really only 288 MW in ideal conditions - when the wind is between a certain minimum (cut on speed) and a maximum (cut of speed). Sometimes the output is zero MW. Solar manufacturers are even worse - they produce zero MW ant night yet they specify the maximum possible. A 1 MW solar farm probably produces only a small fraction of that on average.

A nuclear plant is constant power output day and night (except for maintenance period - may two weeks per year).

Unfortunately, this misleads the public and many policy makers. We need to have a way to fairly compare technologies.
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