Published: 2 Nov 10 12:05 CET | Print version
Online: http://www.thelocal.se/29974/20101102/
An editor at Swedish newspaper Dagens Nyheter (DN) has defended his decision to remove an installment of a popular comic strip from the newspaper's website after he deemed it anti-Semitic.
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But I hope this dude (the editor) gets fired for censorship. He claims the author of the cartoon is not anti-Semitic, admits that the cartoon is ironic and still decides to censor it because people might miss the irony.
Hej, idiot! It's called freedom of speech and it works in all ways!!!!!
Even worse, from the description it is really not anti-Semitic at all, unless having the word "Jew" makes it anti-Semitic alone. That case, remove all cartoons which contain the words "Catholic, Muslim, Buhist, Hindu, Roma, any reference to nation and or skin color".
...the result... a whole lot of politically correct, not funny cartoons...
I swear people are getting more ignorant by the day...
I wanted to correct your spelling mistake:
So I guess while certain groups of people are over-sensitive (muslims), others are scared (Jews).
I want to make sure that I understand......
Wiman recognized that the cartoon was satire, but was afraid that the Swedish people were too stupid to recognize it as such and would be influenced negatively by it "anti-semitic" tone.
Pathetic. Political correctness run wild...
This is a perfect example of why free speech is a sacred right in western society. Humans, despite their best intentions, will often screw it up.
I dont care if its cartoons about Muslims, Jews, Mexicians, Indians, blacks, whites or f'ing greens and purples - its freedom of speech and an idiot should not be the judge of what I would "get" or not AFTER its been published.
Leave the "freedom" in "freedom of speech" alone - if you start choosing and cherry picking then it becomes hypocritical .
I understand that your post is satire, but I am equally certain that ordinary Swedes will believe that Mordechai, the old Jew, is a terrorist.
Sorry, but for the good of Sweden we will have to eliminate you and your blog...........
Being FAR away from ISRAEL, you have proved yourself to be a true Jew. Who can't even tolerate the word Jew in A comic strip
And comes with a full support to defame religious figure for 2 BILLION MUSLIM population.
Bonnier DN, Jylland post and other GUTTER SPINE publications has formed a Ghetto to offend ISLAM at every corner where as to defend Zionist ISRAEL and its HITLER religion at every corner.
Well Done JEWISH Bonnier HITLER.
If you haven't already, please take your pills. Your response made no sense whatsoever. I'm sure that you will be more coherent after a nice lie-down.
The Editor over-reacted. This happens. The discussion wasn't about Israel, it was about Jews and the perception of a continuing libel. Your decision to immediately equate a discussion of Jews and Anti-Semitism to Israel is astonishing. The cartoon was published in Sweden. The concern was for Swedish Jews. A Swedish editor pulled the piece (wrongly as far as I am concerned). Do try to encompass the actual situation and keep focused.
There will be other articles that actually are about Israel and you can make your comments then. Just a thought, you might want to write them out first and throw away the first three sets. The fourth set may then make sense and be applicable to the discussion.
As for the childish capitals highlighting "Hitler" etc., you should know that Hitler is a noun and you are misusing it. There are several excellent books available online or at your local shop or even library (mainly empty these days) that can help in this regard. Finally, disagreements that maintain some level of civility often have more of an impact than wild outbursts followed by "flying crockery."
I just seems to be used as an excuse to remove any critisism or ,,well anything that someone might not like. It's being used like a special word for "I don't like that thing", by anyone who has any connection to jews or israel.
It's a shame realy, because that just waters it down to mean nothing, so when the next Hitler shows up, calling him, or her, anti-semitic, is like saying "I don't like the color of your pants".
I must concur with ehwhat? above, but please when you take your medication, double the dose.
I would have preferred to say go and look at the definition of the censorship somewhere but I guess thats what you did at some point and strictly believe what you have been told.
Use your brain at least!!!
Or, "They are just doing this to appease the evil Islam".
But if we show some compassion, which is rare in today's world, we will realize that IT HURTS PEOPLE. Whether anti-Jew or Anti-Islam, we must be respectful.
Unfortunately, most people in the world will only hear the first word in any sentence, without understanding the context, or the real reasons behind peoples angers.
For example, "so and so is a Bonier Jew", they hear "I knew Jews were ...."
Or, "Mohammed and turbin bomb" people think "I knew all Muslims are violent...."
So, to understand the impact of such meaningless actions, just take your own worst feature and insecurity and imagine standing in front of 1000 people in an auditorium, and then imagine all 1000 people laughing at you and pointing at you and making fun of you. Then maybe you can understand.
Freedom of speech is important, but lets use it when we can accomplish a positive situation. Freedom of speech is in danger with its over use, not with its responsible use.
When we ask why there are differing standards for Jews and Muslims in media - we are told there are no differing standards - even as Juan Williams of PBS gains a 2 million dollar contract after insulting Muslims - and Rick Sanchez and Helen Thomas are in the dustbin for ruffling Jewish feathers.
So we ask.... Why are Jews treated differently than the other 98% of the world.... then we are called bigots and our comments are erased.
Can you imagine being a German in the 1940's - trying to explain to the world the horror of occupation??? How about a Palestinian or American - trying to show the world the evil of your occupiers???
1. Following the Muhammad cartoons, there were many riots, looting, flag-burning and death-threats by Muslims in Scandinavia and all over the world. Whereas now I haven't heard a single Jew protest, even politely.
2. The Muhammad cartoons were drawn in order to express PROTEST against a religion which advocates violence. Whereas the Rocky cartoon attempts to do the exact opposite: SUPPORT a religion against baseless libels, using cynicism . Therefore, any sort of argument about only criticising Muslims while sparing Jews of criticism (as seen from some clueless posters here) is totally incongruous and irrelevant.
The only valid argument here could be that Swedes find it insulting that the author assumed they are stupid enough to agree with the silly statement in the cartoon, and are not clever enough to understand his cynicism. Such argument is acceptable.
3. The Muhammad cartoons were taken down due to EXTERNAL pressures. Whereas in this case, the author HIMSELF decided on taking down his own cartoons. This is clearly not censorship. The only one impeding his freedom of speech was himself.
you please do not try to divert my point from saying that ISLAM bash ing is allowed and anti semitic issues are not tolerable in Swedish society.
What the hell are you pointing here that Jews who are living in sweden are not subjected to any comic strip but it is allowed to humiliate MUSLIMS living in Sweden and around the world.
Better you keep utter your nonsense in front of a mirror repeatedly, may be you will become Gandhi of your dream.
In the conclusion i would like to repeat that the true followers of HITLER in the name of publications like DN, Aftonbladet, jylland post and other illeg-iti-mate sister organizations are formed ghetto to insult Muslims at every corner. where as not to utter a word Je-w in a simple comic strip.
What a build up of hypocrisy. please if you are a Je-w then behave like a Je-w not like a Hitler (noun) :D
@Alf Garnet t
Hey you, I do not have a habit of using pills(Via gra) as you do before writing any comment . so go and live in your dream not reality.
Even, You do not sounds like a Christian or Atheist, but a Je-w ?
Listen me, don't behave like an Israeli boy, come on grow up!
Allow me to rephrase my last sentence: the only one impeding THE PAPER'S freedom of speech was THE PAPER itself.
As far as freedom of speech is concerned, the paper is one whole unit, and what goes on inside the paper is irrelevant to the discussion. It is not considered supression of freedom of speech, when the editor decides to drop a story (or cartoon in this case) by one of his reporters, at his own will. This is called editorial considerations. It is only considered supression of free speech, if the paper drops a story due to external pressures (such as from the government, lawsuits, or threats of violence). Such was the case with the Muhammad cartoons, however this is clearly not the case now. Not only because Wiman went out of his way to explain how this cartoon was a mistake which might accidentally achieve the opposite result than intended (and I genuinely believe his ethical motives), but also because the Dagens Nyheter has absolutely nothing to fear from the Jews. Anyone with half a brain understands that no malice was intended by this cartoon, and thus there is absolutely no case for a lawsuit here.
Islam bashing isn't acceptable in Swedish society. I certainly haven't suggested that it is. If anything people tend to shy away from bashing anything, even if it is well deserved. We also don't use poorly constructed language translators. Is there anyone who actually speaks English near you who can check your materials before you post them? This might help. You are still pretty much incoherent.
The article was concerning a cartoon considered to be anti-Semitic (a quick aside for Lord Squeak - if you weren't being facetious you might wish to Google the 2005 definition by the European Union Monitoring Centre on Racism and Xenophobia (EUMC) ) and was pulled. Cartoons depicting Muslims unfavorably have also been pulled from time to time. Unless legally actionable, I think this behaviour is a mistake. It would be a good idea for all concerned if we grew somewhat thicker skins, embraced freedom of speech and attempted to integrate into our country's culture and society.