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The Gothenburg police are facing more criticism following revelations that they locked eight men in a mosque when responding to a terror threat on October 30th.
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What a ridiculous statement. Of course they would have had there been a terrorist threat against the general public and it were somehow connected to an extremist Christian or Jewish terrorist organization. His (wrong) assumption is based solely on the fact that in today's world, most terrorist threats to the west are coming from Islamists, not Christians or Jews.
Terrorism and bombing is a serious offence, but I still think it is very wrong for the cops to lock all of them in the mosque. They could have just taken the suspect( suspects) and left the rest of them along to pray. I wouldn't be happy myself if they lock me up when I am praying in the Temple and most proablely I would sue their a#se off. It is just a case of one rotten apple in the whole basket. What happen to freedom of religion and belief? Lucky the locked in men didn't want to pursue the matter further.
Safety of Gothenburg is a high priority but situation could have been handled in a better way.
I'm pretty sure the cops were kind of having to wing it that day due to the immediate threat they believed they had. And perhaps they just didn't want anyone to be able to contact the person they were suspecting. Why must everything be turned into some matter of racism or what have you?
I just shake my head and sigh.
These eight victims of terrorism, and they were indeed victims, could have had it much worse. They could have been among the 25 people murdered on 21 October this year at the Jaleel Dandash café in Balad Ruz, Iraq. Or among the 52 people murdered in London on the 7 July 2005. Or among the 2 977 victims murdered in the USA on 11 September 2001. Or they could have been one of the hundreds of people maimed for life at these events. Or one of the tens of thousands of people who will never see their loved ones again because of them.
Lets hope the next time they are at the mosque, they will say a little prayer for those people, and put their own three hours of slight inconvenience into perspective. Instead of trying to score points of the police, who were doing their best to protect us all from any more of these horrible events.
please(Gov) don't call something that are not here now and behave wel..
those of u who thinks that all terror actions are from Muslims.... I can tell you "you are very sick" u need to go to the doctor(Muslim Doctor) i am sure u will get better.
thanks All.
Well, terrorism experts all agree that for example in the US the biggest terror threat comes from the white christian anti government militia. But most of the anti-terrorism efforts go into anti islamic terrorism work. So the statement about not doing the same if there was a church involved is not so crazy as you say it is. (even though of course sweden does not have these militia, the only real terrorism case at the moment concerns a white hetero christian male of 38 years old).
Please also read that the 8 persons are not filing charges and are happy with the apology. Also please read that this Säpo action was completely useless and much too late. If you know some terror suspects are in a mosque for morning prayers, please go there during these morning prayers, not an hour later.
unless has problems with weather issues!
that it just funny, is that the way that makes Swedes feel some actions or what???
Your statement :
"Well, terrorism experts all agree that for example in the US the biggest terror threat comes from the white christian anti government militia"
is pure lunacy.
You aren't doing yourself any favors by subscribing to such nonsense. You're only making yourself look foolish.
i will prove it if anybody wants. no religious place will do like that in the world.
all the terrorists are originated from mosques all around the world and shouting allah akbar when they are doing attacks.
if anybody want proof i will post in the next comment
"Well, terrorism experts all agree that for example in the US the biggest terror threat comes from the white christian anti government militia"
Everything you ever write here again will be reflected against this completely unthruthful comment. Why would you make up such a silly statemement? It makes you look an absolute fool.
It's curious that they don't seem to have a problem with the terrorists in their midst.
This is not my statement, this is the opinion of leading US terrorism experts that are not connected to the US government.
I read this maybe a year ago. If I find a link to the article I will post it here.
It is of course based on the known very large number of heavily armed white extremists, mainly in the Montana, Wyoming area.
Terrorist acts on americans outside of american territory are of course much more likely, and here indeed the biggest threat is from islamic terrorists.
There you go again with "It is of course based on the known very large number of heavily armed white extremists, mainly in the Montana, Wyoming area."
Don't be be so gullible. I feel embarrassed for you if you are indeed so naive as to believe what you are saying.
That is B.S., your making stuff up or you completely misunderstood the news. NOBODY here is worried about white christians committing terrorism. All of us not just white people, but everyone immediately thinks of muslims when were discussing terrorism. And it doesn't matter to most of us what that idiot Obama says on the subject anymore, so I wouldn't use him as a way to gauge the general attitudes of America, he is way out of touch.
Rednecks and Christian fundamentalists are, as you said, a problem in the US. Although, have you ever looked at info pertaining to Montana and Wyoming. Even if their entire populations were terrorists it wouldn't even dent the US population. I think there are more religious extremists in Judaism or Scientology than are people in those two states combined. Just a little info for ya.
I do know plenty of good Christians, Muslims and Jews. Kind of funny that they fight since they are almost identical religions.
for me, if someone, puts me in locked room, without any access to outer world and universe, but just, gives me internet access! I can live rest of my life!
I don't know what Obama has to do with what I said.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Militia_movement_(United_States)
@bumblebeetuna
The same kind of non visible dent the amount of terrorist among the entire planets muslim population would make?
Because he is always trying to downplay the fact that the war (on terror) is against muslims. His administation doesn't even like to say the word muslims whenever they are talking about terrorism. So I don't want anybody to get confused about the genral opinion of my country, whenever we discuss terrorism we are talking about muslims, no matter how much our weak president tries to dance around the topic.
Wow what a profoundly idiotic comment about white christian militia men as terrorists.
Did you know they have Black People in these militia groups? One guy is even a spokesperson for his militia.
These guys are not a threat. They are Christian in the sense that they grew up in America and might profess a belief in God and country. But if they ever commit violence it won't be in the name of Jesus, it will be in the name of fighting for their freedoms.
They are not the problem, the problem in America comes from foreign born or some native born Muslim terrorists. So Snalla read credible sources and not some anti-american website or news agencies like most european rags are except for the telegraph
Where the Swedish police overstepped the mark was when they beheaded the men and posted the videos on the internet.
oops....different mosque, different police force
Wonder why muslims get offended when police suspect them if there is a terrorist threat?? Don' t they know that 99.99% of the terrorist attacks happen EVERY day are done by muslims??!! Don't they know that there is more than 15000 terrorist attacks done by muslims in different parts of the world since 9/11 (the latest were the exploding packets sent to different countries by radical muslims from Yemen and the innocent people who were praying in a church in Iraq who were taken hostages and then killed by AL- Quada militants)??!!!
My advice to muslims: start by your selves, filter your books from the teachings of hatred and hostility towards every non muslim, teach your kids love and acceptance of others regardless their believes and religions. If you do not do this as much as possible the whole world will turn out into havoc.
GEORGUIS I salut you for your words! I am with you 100% and it is time for the Swedes to understnad that!!!! it is very sad but this is the truth.....
Golda Meir the first women prime minister of the state of Israel said...
It will be peace when the arabs will love their children more then they hate jews....
good point on your part. Although, you compared Islamic terrorism with a couple rednecks in the middle of nowhere. My point was that 1% of Muslims make thousands to 10 of thousands of extremists. Whilst 1% of those from Montana and Wyoming makes like 3 people. (exaggeration for effect). To tell you the truth I'm quite sure the feds would have locked a church up in the area to stop those militia when they were busted a few years ago. As would the Swedish police here.
country of yester-years is now going through a very difficult
time.Hopefully,in the next election,Jimme Akesson and his
Sweden Democrat takes over the Government and then the real
Swedish way of life would re-appear,unlike now where certain
types of immigrants have to a certain extent brought more
problems to the country and I didn't see one good deed if any
brought in.If there is,then do let the country know?
Take a moment and try to understand what your comments, Palestinians arab muslims are comming in to Israeli cities killin kids, woman and citizens and you can say that this is because of the ocupation!? are you Swedish? you have the moral to say that you can understand this act,,,,,if yes go to hell.....if this is not terrorism so what is that....rockets from Gaza on Israeli cities were kids and citizens every night sleeping in a shellter room just so the can go to school like any Swedish kid....is this accepteble for you nad you blem the occupation....are you a Swedish?.... for Israel there is only one point to get out from the territory SECURITY FOR ITS CITIZENS this is all they want SECURITY TO ITS CITIZENS if you want to talk about criminals you can look over your Turkish leader (not the Turkish people!) they excecute 1000's of people call "Kurds" evry months!! you understand Mr. Check what is happening in Iran! with people that just express their opinions .....I want to see a SWEDISH JOURNALIST VISITING THE Iranians police station and report what he sees .....You should know the fact and if you don't know just "site down" and learn history and facts! 6 mil Israelis and over 200 mil arabs surounding Israel I wonder how 6 mil can terrorized more then 200 mil arabs ......The Hammas terrorits organization kill more palestinians than what ever Israeli army had done since the 60 years of exisstance!! I want to you and Swedish journalists to say a word to the Hammas!! Primitive ,,,,,
"Many of the terrorism you people refer to is actually legitimate resistance against the occupation.."
Let's hope none of your "legitimate resistance" kills, blinds, eviscerates, or otherwise maims anyone today. Being Friday (a popular day to make "legitimate resistance" by bombing a mosque) the chances are it will. Take a good look at the faces of those killed and injured today. You played your part in it, by calling it "legitimate", now see what you have done. Look into its face.
How about you get in touch with their relatives, or any other relatives of victims, and you tell them all about your "legitimate resistance". Here's some of the lastest ones for you to make a start with:
11 November: a mother and young daughter killed in Peshawar, Pakistan by a Taliban rocket attack. Go tell the husband and father about your "legitimate resistance".
11 November: seven policemen shot dead in Makhachkala, Dagestan by terrorists. Go tell their wives and children about your "legitimate resistance"
10 November ,Iskandariya, Iraq: three brothers blown into little pieces by a bomb hidden at a water pump by terrorists. Go tell their mother and father about your "legitimate resistance".
I will make a special note of today's victims of your "legitimate resistance" and post them to you tomorrow. Their tragedy being "legitimate", you won't have a problem with that will you.
You can be assured with one thing regarding whites - they will always be hypocrites.
Until then, quit your excessive poor victim whining, no one is buying it any more.
You reap what you sow.
"The mosques are our barracks, the domes are our helmets, the minarets are our swords, and the faithful are our army."
"Muslim Children are taught to hate non-muslims Video"
Read and learn,
"Muslim children are brain-washed".
Excellent post. In 14 lines you have summed up what the real situation is.
We who are lucky enough to live in civilised countries enjoy freedoms that are protected by laws, that have been fought for, over many centuries, thanks to the efforts and courage of enlightened people, some whom gave their lives, to grant us these often,taken for granted, freedoms.Whilst our democracies may well be imperfect, they still remain a beacon of hope for many in the world condemned to lives endured in corruption, ideological slavery and spiritual poverty. We have already passed through our own Dark Ages...we don't need them reintroduced....... to the places in the light.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3117338213439292490#
War and Globalization - The Truth Behind September 11 (9/11)
I am quite sure churchgoers and I'd guess synagogue goers would be pleased to be rid of a potential terrorist in their place of worship. In my ignorance of religion and politics. I can' help feel that if Israelis stop fighting, they die. If Palestinians stop fighting there is peace. I have a similar feeling towards mosques. The attitudes that seem to come forward time and time again, from situations like this, is that mosque goers don't really care there was a potential terrorist amongst them just that they were detained or mistreated. It's, admittedly, in large part due to my ignorance and previous brainwashing. Although, I think it's the mainstream feelings in the west.
Ya, B--Fredrick Good statement.
I am quite sure churchgoers and I'd guess synagogue goers would be pleased to be rid of a potential terrorist in their place of worship. In my ignorance of religion and politics. I can' help feel that if Israelis stop fighting, they die. If Palestinians stop fighting there is peace. I have a similar feeling towards mosques. The attitudes that seem to come forward time and time again, from situations like this, is that mosque goers don't really care there was a potential terrorist amongst them just that they were detained or mistreated. It's, admittedly, in large part due to my ignorance and previous brainwashing. Although, I think it's the mainstream feelings in the west."
You hit the nail on the head.
When was the last time that muslims rousted ANY terrorist out of their mosques,
or their neighborhoods?
All the while knowing exactly what is going on, and who they are.
This highlights the sickness, and agenda of islam.
90%, or more, of those killed in Iraq and Afganistan is muslim on muslim.
Your 400,000 Afghans killed is total bullxxxx, as well as your 50,000 rapes.