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Emails and mobile phone text messages would be stored for six months by internet service providers (ISPs), according to a bill presented by the Swedish government on Thursday to bring the country in line with EU data retention rules.
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One has to feel all warm and fuzzy and good about that!
Oh,oh...you made a big mistake there, using all those names. Now your mail and you will be linked to theirs. Certain "intelligent groups" (nod, nod, wink, wink, say no more) do nothing else but check mails for key names and if you use them you are automatically a suspect.
Seriouslt, though, the innocent always suffer when trust is abused. If a park is closed because of vandalism, then it's closed for everyone - not just the vandals but also innocent kids, for example. Just be grateful that they haven't stopped e-mail completely. Yet.
Once it passes because of "terrorism" then they start talking about since its already there... perhaps X should have access to it... then Y... then Z...
What happened to privacy?
The classic answer to that is "if you have nothing to hide, you have no reason to be afraid"
well, plenty of innocent people have been falsely charged and convicted, and the right to privacy is not just for crimes, its a persons right, or perhaps we should start installing video cameras in these politicians bedrooms...(?)
This is horrible. Look at the UK, sensitive files of hundreds of thousands of people found in a laptop accidentally left on the London Underground - and that was not the first time something liek that happened.
Before you know it companies will be selling your user data to other companies, some idiot loses his USB stick with your data on it - and big corporations will just salivate to get your data so they can send you better spam...umm, promotions.
Scum from music and movie industries will try to convict people based on IP addresses using the same flawed techniques that they used to send infringement notices to printers and people who were dead at the time (google it).
All the while, the baddies and the people who value privacy will spend 50kr more to get a VPN and thus bypassing all this foolishness...
The EU has become a disgusting superstate and a dictatorship; the Swedish government should exercise autonomy and tell the EU to respect its citizens rights to privacy; otherwise, we are all potential criminals until proven innocent.
If the politicians in Parliament in Sweden go along with this proposal, they are endorsing the EU's desire for Sweden to become a Police State...and never again will the world look at Sweden as a true democracy
They were just two examples of how user data can be "misplaced", and I am sure there are many other occurrences that we have never heard of.
The fact that one of them was 'military personnel data' actually scares me more, because I would think that would be handled much more securely than 'local average Joe-you-and-me' data.
More questions are being raised with far more concern than the answers a system like this would provide.
In other words: Here the cure seems to worse than the disease.
Spying on e-mails, telephone calls and what next ?
Sounds like a "Police state" scenario is about to begin, too bad its Sweden this time.
and secondly who is going to trawl thru the sewage to find the diamonds
99.9% of email is absolute crap and who in their right mind would even consider this there must be imbeciles or megalomaniacs at the wheel!
http://vbulletin.piratpartiet.se/showthread.php?t=31360
and the English translation via Google:
http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A//vbulletin.piratpartiet.se/showthread.php%3Ft%3D31360&hl=en&langpair=auto|en&tbb=1&ie=ISO-8859-1
Just a shameful act by the powers that be to turn this beautiful country into a police state funded by the corporations.
Encryption helps you about all except against "eyes" behind your back or against key-loggers inside of your PC. Beside it, everything what can be encrypted, it can be also decrypted, before or later but you can buy time.
"Crime fighting" takes on a whole new meaning in a society where you have "hate speech" laws, and also sex purchase laws whereby the client (usually a man) can be convicted bu the hooker (usually a woman or gay man) can never be convicted.
I am from Sweden, living in the US, operating an Internet business which includes operating a mail server. I would advise Swedish internet users who care about their privacy to host their domain names and e-mail accounts with non-EU (e.g. US providers) where this 6-month rule does not exist. Make sure that both your inbound AND outbound mail servers are outside of the EU.
If you believe that your government is entitled to your e-mails and you are happy to live in a surveillance society, then just ignore my advice. I am sure that the police state will impact everybody except you.
Agree with you completely. I'm in a similar business with employees in the EU, and we always host offshore. I don't know how the laws are in Sweden; I imagine your employees are able to claim that their email conversations in a corporate situation are private and not subject to monitoring for industrial espionage, hate speech, etc.
Well, I wouldn't be too sure about that, given that those Narus boxes appear to be connected at various sites throughout North America, and especially at all the IXPs, which give them extraordinary intercept capabilities.
And as Orwellian as things are today -- especially in English-speaking countries (USA, UK, Australia, etc.), I suspect it is more Huxley's Brave New World scenario, where we are hit with a constant stream of misinformation and disinformation in our daily lives.
'nuff said
Talking Dog --Texas
If it`s used to keep track of security threats or potential theft,then that`s fine with me chaps..
Buy a couple of months in advance and its going to cost you even less than 5 euros a month.
Burlison, I doubt I can claim exemption from any law based on that it is "business confidential" or private. But given that I don't even let the fire inspector into my office here in Florida, they can just try to get at my e-mails for purposes of stopping "hate speech". Just try.
And I am serious about the fire inspector. I don't need some jackwagon telling me that we need a fire extinguisher at a certain height on the wall, and that said entinguisher(s) needs to be inspected once a year for $30 or $50 or whatever it is. I simply don't let the inspector in. I tell them: get a court order. They never do.
sgt_doom's point about the gov't surveillance in the US (Narus boxes) is a good one. W killed the Constitution and Obama is burying it. Don't get me started. But this article was about a proposed law requiring ISP's in Sweden to store the info. Now if the Swedish gov't wants to listen on in in the connection as a user in Sweden connects to a US mail server to send or receive mail and then store that e-mail, sure, they can do that. But again, the proposed law talks about Swedish ISP's storing it.
Now if the US gov't listens in and sees an e-mail that says "oj så mycket jag fuskade på skatten i år" (boy did I ever cheat on my taxes a lot year), they are unlikely to say "we will pass that on to the Swedes to see if there is a crime.
On our server, the user controls who long they want already picked up e-mails to be stored. Most users don't store once they picked up their e-mail. For outbound mail, we don't store a copy.
So few people see the inverse correlation between surveillance and economic growth and economic health. Even the Albanians figured that one out.