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Containers proposed as student housing solution

Published: 12 Nov 10 11:57 CET | Double click on a word to get a translation
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Officials in Stockholm have come up with a novel solution to address the student housing shortage afflicting university towns across the country: converting cargo containers into student residences.

The city of Stockholm intends to undertake two projects to create about 220 student apartments by stacking nine storeys of containers togeher, as well as building more floors on top of existing student residences at Gärdet in eastern Stockholm, newspaper Dagens Nyheter (DN) reported on Friday.

The proposal calls for building the first 50 homes near the Royal Institute of Technology's (Kungliga Tekniska Högskolan, KTH) on Drottning Kristinas väg.

If all goes to according to plan, students could move into the dwellings as early as next autumn, DN reported.

Each container occupies 25 square metres and includes a bathroom and kitchenette. The building would also include a greenhouse on the roof.

At Gärdet's Studentbacken, one idea is to build another two to three floors on the three eight-storey buildings that the Stockholm Student Housing Foundation (Stiftelsen Stockholms studentbostäder, SSSB) currently runs.

The proposed 220 new student apartments barely scratch the surface in terms of addressing the acute housing shortage for students in Stockholm. The average time students spend on SSSB's wait list is 15 months.

"The situation has deteriorated drastically and the queuing time has gone through the roof. A few years ago, it was three months," SSSB communications director Anders Cronqvist told DN.

Attempts by The Local to reach SSSB were unsuccessful.

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12:36 November 12, 2010 by anony1
Don't worry.

With introduction of tuition fees, there will be much less students here next year!
12:56 November 12, 2010 by blondelover
As if their is some scarcity in Stockholm for a land. Always Sweden is very bad in hospitality for the students.

go and see UK ans US

Its a total b**sht. provide good housing first of all . Without a bed bugs
14:30 November 12, 2010 by Swedesmith
How attractive.
15:34 November 12, 2010 by asee
i agree with blondelover, I am fedup with bed bugs..
15:43 November 12, 2010 by Smartone
Live in a 'container' and sleep with bed bugs and eat snow

What a good living standard is provided to ''International Students''? hahaha

Tuition fees: We have introduced it because we would like to compete with the U.K, the U.S.A, Australia and Canada but we can not build housing for new comers. LOL
16:21 November 12, 2010 by TheOriginalBlackMan
Only reason so may people stay in Sweden for any length of time is due to free tution to college, end that and Sweden cuts it's nose off to spite it's face.

People certainly dont come for the weather or the women.
16:28 November 12, 2010 by adigunbabatunde@yahoo.com
@annoy1:

yeah...next autumn there will be plenty of space to sleep. I think the result can be seen easily lets ask studera (1st Dec) to see how many pple have paid the applicatn fee.
16:29 November 12, 2010 by Swedesmith
What did you come for?
16:34 November 12, 2010 by harshacse553
hey good idea here so many people are suffering with accomodation ...you can proceed
16:39 November 12, 2010 by babzil
@ Swedesmith,

please if i may a ask...why is the swedish society more open, supportive and welcoming 2 assylum seekers compared 2 students and graduates in Sweden. Why are swedish policies so closed and not fufilling to these educated immigrants.

can any one pls answer as well.
16:52 November 12, 2010 by unforgiven
@ babzil

It's so easy to answer your question. They don't want the immigrants to take their high class job positions such as engineers, doctors, managers, etc. To establish a reasonable ground for this purpose they import uneducated low-class refugees with very low expectations (normally survival) from Swedish society and they will, in principle, do whatever job they can get from cutting trees in the forests to cleaning the toilets. In turn, they pay back for this trick by not paying the taxes committing crimes.

I am happy that Sweden is paid back for its idiotic immigration policies.
17:03 November 12, 2010 by Swedesmith
You sound like a wonderful addition to Swedish society.
17:31 November 12, 2010 by asian123
from next year there will be lot of houses available with the introduction of the fee.

so dont worry.

sweden always want refugees but not the skilled educated students because they dont want to see coloured people ending up in high positions.
17:33 November 12, 2010 by ashfaq.adeel
hmm guyz guyz . .. relax... why all the negitive approches ... be an optimist..an opportunist...if ibraham lincon can study in street lights and become president of USA... why always whining about the conditions...what are your contributions in raising ur own(home) society... just mean to say that " if there is a will there is way" ..make ur own ways..to make others inspire.. and everyone will get his fate... neither sweden nor any one else can snatch it from u... and "no pain no gain."...so keep up the hard work...be positive... and good luck to all in their future..
17:35 November 12, 2010 by canam
The reason why there is a shortage is because it is intentional. Whate better way to artificially inflate the Swedish real estate market. I'm surprised Swedes still fall for it.
18:06 November 12, 2010 by shahidbutt
i dont want to live in the container.........ugly suggestion
18:10 November 12, 2010 by silly t
am beginning to wonder if the lack of jobs,harsh winter and snobbish uncivilised swedish girls can compensate for the free tuition....

don't know if u guys are staying back but for me "hej då!
18:17 November 12, 2010 by babzil
@ ashfaq.adeel,

Tack, your motivational speech is not enough to solve the issue on ground. Many great optimists who came to study here have gone because the society changed them and they later became a realist! Abraham lincoln studied under street light, he was motivated, studied hard because he saw future in himself based on the opportunities present in his society if only he could study and work hard. Stop sounding like one of these folks who rant for refuge here to cut trees. CALL A SPADE A SPADE!
18:36 November 12, 2010 by asee
how about , winter tents with washroom facility in Swedish jungles???
18:44 November 12, 2010 by Just_Kidding
I understand the situation for international students; But I don't think that Swedish people do have (or should have) much motivation to improve the situation. Maybe being more upfront about the limitations in Sweden is not a bad idea;

In reality nobody tells the real situation to the international student's before they come to Sweden (Or maybe somebody tells but the students don't hear) because universities compete for students and they are who the student gets to know first. Students receive their information from universities and get a lovely picture of life in Sweden while the rest of society does not care much about them.

About containers...if they want to make it slightly better than a tent, it would work ( I mean no water, no kitchen , no shower, no WC), but if they want to put these facilities in a container, they better gather their will together and build a proper building because IMHO it would be cheaper this way.
22:05 November 12, 2010 by rybo1
It's a good idea for a short term solution.
22:43 November 12, 2010 by blursd
Oh yah ... I can see that going over well.

Mother: "How are things going in Sweden honey?"

Son: "Good ... I finally found a place to live, and I just moved in."

Mother: "Oh good. What complex are you living in?"

Son: "Well, it's not so much of a complex as it is an industrial storage container."

Mother: "YOU'RE LIVING IN A STORAGE CONTAINER! Who the hell put you there?!?!"

Son: "The student housing department ... and its only 4,000 crowns a month."

Yah, I really see hordes of parents of international students being thrilled their children move half way across the world, and end up living in a storage container.
23:03 November 12, 2010 by asee
@blursd

Hahahahahhhhhhhhhhhhhh! good joke :)
06:03 November 13, 2010 by Jarvilainennen
Hlglglglllgghh.....

One can only imagine the sound of footsteps reverberating through all that metal...

A friend of mine lived on top of containers like that, difference was that his "house" was made of two building-site cabins elements. It was actually like a real house inside, but with metal bars on windows.

They are nothing but steel frames and you just screw 2/4s + inner & outer walls on the frame. Easy and fast, I´ve built them myself.

Containers are containers, I woudn´t house a dog in something like that. I sort of have an idea who is supposed to live in those in the end but being a politically correct kinda guy this morning I won´t say it.

Still, I´m willing to bet the simple steel frame element is wayyy better, cheaper too. You can just knock down a wall and join 2 or 3 apartments if you so wish. Thick metal don´t cut so easy.
10:28 November 13, 2010 by sleeplesssweden
Does it matter any more lol.With the introduction of the new fees coming in,no sane student will contemplate paying the new fees,study in a very cold country with strange language and npossibility of getting a decent jobs
11:15 November 13, 2010 by SarahRF
I personally think it's a great idea. Students are already being forced to live in places smaller than 20 sq m, getting a whole container to yourself with your own bathroom and kitchenette at 25 sq m is not a bad price to pay. In other universities around the world, if you want the school to provide housing for you, you're put in a giant dorm, sharing a room with a random stranger.

The fact that this idea is being realized in Stockholm should be reassuring enough. Swedes won't live in slum conditions, they won't let their exchange students live in slums because it affects their international academic image negatively. While furnishings might be sparce in the containers, at least they'll be properly insulated, rather sound proof, and I'm fairly sure it'll become a sort of fashion trend amongst students, if they're done properly.
12:47 November 13, 2010 by ashfaq.adeel
@babzil

i know bro... the situation is bad in major cities ..and that is bad...but have u tried helping any student to shift wid u temporarily (if ur in the same city)...hav u done any thing if ur soo concerned...and why all that hate against the immigrants... they r also humans...

and no country is perfect in this world..neither is urs...and no man is perfect...neither r u....we should just keep on trying to find the happiness in what we have and work hard for more better life...and a better society

and . whats with all the cutting trees...seems like u had a hard time....

and next tiem u comment...do tell me what are ur contributions for a better society in ur home country....(or here..)... .. stop whining ..start helping.....
13:20 November 13, 2010 by hopeful01
Sweden needs to change its attitude towards international students first. With the tuition fees that I have seen I doubt universities will be getting many paying students.

As many others have already mentioned the fees are almost the same in comparison with many good universities in English speaking countries such as the US,Canada and Australia.
15:31 November 13, 2010 by Rebel
"People certainly dont come for the weather or the women."

They have a lot in common you know. FOr a short time one can experience warmth and pleasantness, but eventually what you are stuck with is just boring, frigid gloom that eats at your soul.
15:36 November 13, 2010 by IranianBoy
first I wanted to say same things as others and criticize the situation, like 20000 dollar PER YEAR tuition fees for KTH and Stockholm Uni or the lack of accommodation that have forced me to move twice in the last 3 months and one other moving in next month.... But then I noticed that maybe it is for the best!

why? because at the end you want to have a job, living happily in a friendly society without stress... oh what?! what a high expectation! let me see! You cannot get a permanent residency easily and you are under stress all the time. You cannot get a job competing with other europian students. the society is not friendly toward immigrants. and the 2 latters are not somethings that can be changed.

So maybe really we should not come here?

let's see! oh! Canada is a socialist country with very low tuition fees and very friendly people toward immigrants in which you can get your Permanent Residency right after graduation and though it is cold, it is not as much as Sweden!! hmmm.....

USA? oh it is capitalist! I hate the ideology! oh wait! there are socialist cities in that country! New York, Chicago.... and you are never a FOREIGNER there.... lots of jobs.....

oh no! not Portugal and Poland! oh wait! at least you get some girls there! and people are warm!!
15:38 November 13, 2010 by Rebel
Want to solve the problem cheaply? Give homeowners 3000 SEK per month per student they allow to stay with them in their home. Bet it would come out cheaper than to create new housing units -- even out of old cargo unites.
19:13 November 13, 2010 by Jarvilainennen
Here:

http://www.kuljetuspakkala.fi/index.php?pinc=3

No need to re-invent the wheel. Those things are built to accomodate people to begin with and one can sell them foward anytime.

Who do you think is willing to buy those lego-peaces only good for another lego-house, after that ugly thing in picture above, is disassembled?

A hit-product? So they thought with the space craft-houses they built in the middle of forests, remember them?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Futuro
02:01 November 14, 2010 by 2394040
Well, canned food has been around for many years. Why not canned students? :):):):):)
04:29 November 14, 2010 by glamelixir
@ babzil

I have been wondering exactly the same for the last 4 years.

Please let me know when you find the key answer to this.
11:42 November 14, 2010 by SWOT
I remember KTH had already used the containers as student house in 2004.
12:13 November 14, 2010 by Just_Kidding
Iranianboy said: "...

let's see! oh! Canada is a socialist country with very low tuition fees and very friendly people toward immigrants in which you can get your Permanent Residency right after graduation and though it is cold, it is not as much as Sweden!! hmmm....."

Canada is not like that anymore, you can not get Permanent Residency after your graduation unless you have a job (and most often you can not get a job unless you have permanent residency). It is also not socialist anymore (Harper's conservative government is ruling... no liberals or New Democrats are in power)... and people are not friendly towards immigrants.... you could get an idea about their friendliness if you read the comments that they leave on www.CBC.ca (Canada's BBC) on immigration issues...

10% of Canadian's are also working outside of Canada due to the problems with getting jobs inside Canada.
19:47 November 15, 2010 by Kimster
A good idea!!!!!!!! But from next year there wont be many international students studying here because of the introduction of tuition fees!!!

Anyways this may be the future of urban housing!!!!
21:00 November 15, 2010 by pcgomes
@Just_Kidding: At Quebec they give you citizenship after 3 years if you emigrate there and is willing to learn French. But you have to prove that you're a skilled worker:

http://www.immigration-quebec.gouv.qc.ca/en/index.html
00:04 November 18, 2010 by PonceDeLeon
"I came to Sweden to go to school and live in a can" ..Nice!
20:40 November 18, 2010 by stmanpule
finally i got admitted to study in Sweden but honestly there's no money to finance it.

please i am deeply appealing to you all to come to my aid

my e-mail address is: adebambol@aol.com

or adebamboadewale@yahoo.com

please kindly take me serious God will not in any way neglect your needs
16:05 December 14, 2010 by Lockien
This is seriously insulting. Will there be a single Swede living in this? No. It just further emphasize the fact that if you attend a university in Sweden and aren't Swedish then you're a second class resident.
18:15 March 31, 2011 by Rangdrol
This is the same kind of housing that is being proposed by Haitian-Canadian actor Luc Merveille for Haitians. I think this might be okay for temporary housing, but I am shocked to find that a develloped country like Sweden would possibly even consider this for their students. It is a shame!

I am sure that if students made mention of this to the University or Swedish government, just the shame would get them to build condos in a matter of months!

Also, Im from US and Canada, and the only reason that the US does so well is because it has so many Universities, in a town like Boston, which is where I am from. Just 20 years ago my partner was paying $30,000 a year for tuition only, and an additional 1,200 a month for a two bedroom in Boston. Student housing was only a few hundred dollars less per month, and in Canada, well, the fees here for attending college are so inexpensive, compared to US, that you can go to University for less than 10,000 per year, and studios around the city can be had for less than $500.00.
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