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Volvo Cars and its Chinese owner Geely appear headed on a collision course regarding Volvo's expansion in China, the Financial Times reported late on Thursday.
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A marriage between a dictator and a free/liberal thinker is impossible to work.
Yes, Volvo has rights, because Chinese can't make cars. Volvo can.Without Swedes there will be no Volvo but chinese crap called Volvo.
The Swedish Volvo execs are thinking, oh they make all those cars in China and soon they would be competing with the Swedish factory and we would have to shut down. Why not come up with some arbitrarily low market projections for China and then export them at exorbitant rates. The Chinese workers will work overtime making Volvo scale models, so that they can pay for Swedish social system, long holidays, and sick payment and parental leave and ........
I totally agree with you.But then Li Shufu is a rather special man - even in China.
@Saar
With Swedes there was no Volvo - you didn't want to support it's future. Ford did. Geely did - but Swedes did not.As for "Chinese crap", I bet there is a lot more of it in your house than you know about. Your PC for example that you write your comments on to post here or your modem-router, and a few more things like that. True patriotism begins in the wallet, not in the mouth.
And Yes, Volvo's are very very special cars.Why is it foreigners understand this but so many Swedes don't?
"You", "yourself", "your house" - do you know me? No. So,speak for yourself.
Oh, I thought since you were so good at generalising in your comments you could not possibly object to someone else doing the same.
Just out of interest, what, following your argument, is the difference between 'chinese crap' and 'American crap' ? Or do you consider Ford to be a European/Scandinavian company?
If Volvo becomes 100% Chinese(R&D, Design and Production,etc.), I'm not going to buy it.
If it's a chinese company selling OEM to western companies, with Western labels on it, then it's ok.
If it's a chinese company selling directly under it's own label...then it's not OK.
I guess that kind of blows Huawei products off your list, but not off major telecom companies lists.
So, with this logic, Volvo was Volvo even when it was Ford, but not now that it is Geely.
Yep. It's very clear to me.
I think one of Keith's points that might not be clear to you is that regardless of where a product is said to be developed, there are a lot of components in there that came from suppliers outside of the company, and a lot of them are Chinese.
So when Volvo was Ford, even though the design HQ is in Gothenburg, chances are there were many components designed and made in other countries such as USA or China.
have you read my post?
Keith, there are a lot of products coming from China that are not crap. I'm talking about consumer products, not steel pipes, telecom parts and fertilizers. So,yes, Huawei products are off my list. If I ever need them and they are good I'll buy them.
There is a company called Haier, their appliances are cheap and good.Pure Chinese. I used them when I was living in US. Chinese cars? No thanks, I don't want to die young.
Ok. I take your point.
I don't think the issue of safety with Chinese cars applies as they will have to meet European safety standards anyway to be able to be sold in Europe.Certainly they will have to meet Swedish standards to be sold in Sweden.
My essential point about Geely and Volvo is this - Li Shufu really is a very special man.His private company is not state owned and it is generally accepted that the State has Li Shufu in a rather special category. He's an amazing businessman by any western standard, unbelievable by Chinese standards.
I do not believe that this ownership scenario will be detrimental to Volvo.Certainly not as detrimental as I believe the previous owners were. Shock absorbers failing on 18 month old Volvos? There had to be something wrong with that cost-cutting production exercise.
Then the Swedes or others who are used to the Volvo culture will have to import Volvo cars from China.... do you see that?
Sweden ...wake up!!
The Fiesta company makes a lot of noise about being an American Product and their dishes are made in America, but on the same display they have boxes of Spoons and Forks that are Fiesta ware, but made in China.
I would tather buy a Swedish Product made in Sweden, an American Product made in America and a Chinese product truthfully labeled. If anybody has a list of Swedish products that have not abandoned their workers and fled to China, please post it.
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