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The website of the Swedish prosecutor's office pursuing WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange came under cyber attack on Tuesday in the latest salvo in a campaign by online supporters who have also struck PayPal and the Swiss Post Office bank.
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You see, as imperfect as we are in America, we stand up for what's right. Yeah, sometimes we're like an old drunk who just wants to fight, and sometimes we don't choose our battles wisely, but when the chips are down, we stand up for what's right. We didn't have to come over here and help save Europe in two major wars... but we did, at the cost of many American lives, because it was the right thing to do.
Your guilt? It comes from Sweden doing NOTHING during WWII besides saving herself and becoming Germany's puppet. Now you're trying to forget that guilt by taking your shame out on the USA, acting like you want to save the world from that big bad monster. It's just a little too late. You should have stood up 70 years ago. The only thing I have left to say is: The truth hurts, don't it?
I'm from Russia. And I would like to ask you:
Please don't speak about WWII and US participation on it.
All of Americans aid during the WWII was linked solely to make money! It is historical fact!
What would Americans do, they do it just for the sake of self-interest and money.
Nowadays Where the Americans had come - there is always a disruption, war and tears of people.
Did the US play a big part in WW2? Of course they did but they didn't win it and they didn't do it because they felt they should help out Europe, they did it because they were attacked.
The claim "we stand up for what's right" is often counter to US Government policy. Many of us remember the Vietnam War, some were part of antiwar resistance. But the aftermath and cleanup were a sorry affair. The USA for many decades has actively encroached on people & nations around the world, often in support of US corporate interests to the detriment of local people. Excesses are often courageously reported and discussed within the USA, but things are seldom made right.
Good job. You are one of the very few Americans who know that WW2 did not begin on 7 December 1941 and had actually been raging since 1939. A great deal of hard fighting, and massive losses had been incurred by the European participants by December 1941. By then, the Russians had lost several entire armies, and the Germans were days away from losing another one (and the war) at Stalingrad). By the time America became fully engaged in the fighting (1943/44) the European nations were well into their fourth year of a very hot war, and were very very tired.
It was pretty much the same story in WW1 too.
Everybody is very grateful all the same that you turned up just in time for both finales.
And i have always heard people from many different countries tell me how small and insignificant Sweden is, well it's true!
And it was true during WW2 also! Sweden did the right thing in WW2 because entering the war would definately destroy the country, because as you say, were so insignificant and small :)
And yes i am proud of not being in any war for a very long time, what if all countries were like sweden. We'd have world peace.
Thanks, bye.
to uscitizen you are the type of American we all dislike so much.
I totally agree, finally a realistic comment!
I totally agree with you, no more to add...
The world is full of good people and it's nice!
I think you don't really appricicate the freedom we have in western europe. It is much greater than the one you have in the US. Only we don't brag about it all the time.
Go and stand on a square in an average american city and yell that you are a socialist.....then come back here and tell us if there was freedom of speech.
Yes you have freedom to buy guns, yes you have freedom to make a lot of money (and your government will help you with this) and you have freedom to choose from 20 kinds of cola......but is that real freedom?
You can't drink a beer on the street, you can't smoke pot, you can go on strike (oh yes you can...but you have to walk in circles and are not allowed to talk to people passing by), you can't smoke cuban cigars etc.
All we have to do now is to read those revealing cables and see how free your country is.
What about that nice scandal a few years back when it was uncovered that AT&T had a nice little secret room for the NSA to listen in on your guys. Free country? Doubtful.
And like so many have pointed out, which is historically accurate, you only entered WW2 when you were attacked by the Japanese. If they hadn't attacked you, you would just sit idly by and see the Germans do what they please, if it gains US. Just look at The Marshall Plan, free guilt trip to make the countries to accepted it to do your bidding.
A country where you can be fired, without reason, the same day is not a free country.
www.theaustralian.com.au/in-depth/wikileaks/dont-shoot-messenger-for-revealing-uncomfortable-truths/story-fn775xjq-1225967241332
And calling Anonymous a hacker group is like calling Paris Hilton a perfect lady,
Anonymous are a pack of people who got together on 4chan and are made up of mostly kids who like comics and funny images (same site that got you pictures of funny cats (lolcats)). The most "hacking" any of these people have done is to download a problem (like LOIC) and run it.
One of the worst groups to mess with as they are so immature... it just goes to show how battered our laws and governments are when they are now looked at as the righting force in comparasion.
That said, arresting him on the charges they did is absurd. But at the same, time, I feel no sympathy for the grief he has foolishly decided to bring down upon himself.
The Theater of the Absurd never closes.
somehow, and over time, the US has really turned into a country that doesn't respect the world and other countries.
the term 'US Empire' , as mad mac has stated, is precisely what no american wants to look at or even hear about. all because as soon as anyone thinks for themselves and even remotely begins to question the status quo, instantly they are labelled 'unpatriotic' or perceived as 'unamerican'. that's scary but it's true.
The US Govt attempts to rule the world by the classic old cliche' " My Way Or The Highway " and anyone who disagrees, or gets in the way, better be careful.
I too am an American citizen - and I have a post graduate education in national security with a European concentration. I was taught by former and current members of the US intelligence and security community. I was also instilled with the notion that as an American, especially working for the US government in foreign service - I would be God's gift to the earth and better than Europeans.
I'm actually quite happy that the Swedish prosecutors' servers were hacked! Assange is being railroaded and will be found guilty. This case also came up back last August, but the charges were dropped - and this also corresponded with the visit tour and of a Swedish general, which included a stop at the Pentagon. This "rape case" as all the trappings of being a set-up and various events correspond with these "rape charges."
I have also downloaded the Wikileaks files - and with my educational background - I intend to engage in my own analysis of these documents. I have known for years about the American hegemony over Europe.
The US is not God gift to the world and this rubbish that Europeans need to pay forever for "the US saving Europe" in almost a single-handed sense is wrong on a couple of historical points (the Red Army and European resistance) and the idea that Europe does not own the US anything.
What the hell is Sweden going to get out of this cooperation with the US other than a tarnished reputation?
"Civilisation cannot be imposed through war. Never has and never will be."
You're forgetting...
The Phyle Campaign and the overthrow of the Thirty Tyrants 403 BC
Virginia 1865
Italy 1943
Germany 1945
Japan 1945
South Korea 1953
Cambodia - Pol Pot 1979
Uganda - Idi Amin 1979
Romania - Nicolae Ceausescu 1989
To name but a few.
https://zunguzungu.wordpress.com/2010/12/07/two-handed-engine-wikileaks-the-defense-of-diplomatic-secrecy-and-east-timor/
And what is about manufacturers of so unreliable produce?
Michael Kerjman
If you don't know what I mean, google - wikileaks insurance file
Back to Assange. It's perfectly possible that the charges against him have nothing to do with Wikileaks, but everything to do with a dysfunctional relationship between the law and its enforcement. 90% of rape cases never reach court, yet we know that certain cases involving little hard evidence but lots of celebrity, grandstanding and hefty lawyers' fees go all the way, thereby bringing Sweden's legal system into disrepute. Well, it would if the rest of the world could read Swedish or had a reason to cast a spotlight on the occasionally selective way Swedish laws are applied. Fortunately not too many people know about the general clauses that allow legislators and the executive to interpret laws in pretty much any way they fancy. Oops - there's now a reason for the world to take a good look. Something worth looking forward to. You'll all be better for it.
Still I can't help getting involved in the war stuff.
@ Uriel "And it was true during WW2 also! Sweden did the right thing in WW2 because entering the war would definately destroy the country, because as you say, were so insignificant and small :)
And yes i am proud of not being in any war for a very long time, what if all countries were like sweden. We'd have world peace."
Would we? In the years running up to WW2 Sweden increased its volume of iron ore exports nine times, most of it going to Germany. Churchill had to threaten to bomb Swedish ships in north German harbours 5 days before the war was over before Sweden stopped supporting the Nazi war machine. Being so smug about Sweden's 'good sense' may stem from ignorance, but it doesn't win too many friends. It just self-deluding. Sweden did very well out of the war and only avoided closer investigation thanks to the onset of the Cold War and the realities of geopolitics. Just be thankful. Lots of the rest of us lost family members so that you could gloat.