February 23, 2012
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A Swedish man was forced to have his penis amputated after waiting more than a year to learn he had cancer.
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That is absolutely unacceptable!
Agree with johnny1939 about the potential of this kind of problems if Obama care takes root in the USA.
No, what would've happened in the US is his insurance company (if he was lucky enough to have insurance at 60+ years old) would've cited a pre-existing condition and then refused to cover it. Or they would've endlessly sent him to get second, third, fourth opinions. He would have simply waited to die, unless he's rich...that's the US system!
Hahahahahaha
rite... because us health care is perfect, right? Yes, its damn perfect for the prosper and rich.
He will most probably get a free strap-on job
And it will be at least 10 inches
In Sweden, you are locked into an authoritarian medical state which decides if and when you will receive help. Doctors are not well educated, and they routinely refuse to help people, and unless you leave the country or perhaps are able to meet with a doctor at a private hospital like Sophiahemmet, then in Sweden, you are left to die or you will be permantly maimed for life. Read the Swedish news. Horror stories like this one are a dime a dozen.
In Sweden, there is NO FREEDOM. There is no chance. In the US, there is a chance. As they are now, both systems hurt people. But in the US, you still have a chance of helping yourself. You still have some chance of control over your own life. In Sweden, there is NO FREEDOM. NO CHANCE. Big Bror owns you. Never forget, never doubt, you are owned. You will live how the state decides you will live.
My heart goes out to this poor man. WHO will take responsibility for this crime?
In Sweden you also have the option for private and specialist medical care. difference between Sweden and the US is that you do not have to sell your house to get it. But heck if you want to support the US system, buy a plane ticket and go back, you will not be missed
I ended up paying cash during a trip to the US to have it removed the same day. It took 3 days to get the appointment and without insurance, I was charged the same rate as insuranced subscribers get. Most people don't realize that if someone is uninsured, US hospitals and clinics charge half price and/or work out a payment plan. We have many options and after experiencing both US and Swedish Health care, I prefer the US's. But there are many, many things I love about Sweden!!!!
No wonder, it's only a matter of time before they become Africans and Somalians. Cultural exchange in the first place. Roflmao
Crave and rave for massive government controlled bureaucracies that you think are "free" and give you healthcare. They aren't "free" and provide anything BUT quality healthcare.
As for all the US insurance stuff, I currently have my own insurance and it is reasonable. There are yearly checkups that are covered, 2 dental checkups are covered, overall its the best for me. It even has road assistance coverage for up to $50(go figure) and I get cheap meds, especially generic. I currently am young, work part time/looking for a internship but it fits me really good.
Some people wonder about insurance, my opinion is start with one early and keep with it. Currently the deductible is quite high but it covers all the regular things and monthly payments are cheap.
I personally would hate to be on a government ran health program but being on privatized has been real nice, does it suck you have to pay a bill every month? Yes but it beats paying a vast sum of money all at once and paying extra taxes to a government for the health program (not to mention I can shop around for a better policy)...
Actually, this is NOT true. There is a private hospital, Sophiahemmet, in Stockholm, but patients outside of Stockholm's län do NOT have full access to the specialists at this hospital, plus many of the specialists are fully booked and are not accepting any new patients.
Thus, many people in Sweden do NOT have access to private specialists and must leave the country if they need (immediate) care, such as what Rochester (post #17) described above.
If anyone knows of other private specialists in Sweden, please share. Access to this information could save someone's life.
I have had an HMO for 30 years through my company. Every few years they change the provider because they compete for the best deal. I have had the same medical provider, Scripps Clinic, for 30 years and have never been denied any treatment, surgery, specialist in all that time. I have had rotator cuff surgery, double hernia surgery, eye surgery, multiple CT and MRI scans as well as many specialist visits over that period with excellent outcomes. I never had to wait more than 3 weeks to schedule elective surgery! I get annual exams with prostate PSA check and colonoscopy every 5 years.
On the few occasions where I have visited the ER, I have found mostly low income Mexican people there waiting for medical treatement and I have never seen a single one turned away because they didn't have insurance or could not pay. The fact of the matter is that those of us who can pay, or have insurance, end up compensating the medical facilities for the non-payers through higher prices we (or HMO) pay. There is no free lunch. If any of my outcomes were poor due to bad medical practice I have the right to sue. If an HMO denies me coverage I can appeal and sue. That is called freedom.
There is strong focus on preventative care in the US - prostate exams, mammograms, Papp smears, colonoscopies, skin scans, etc. - because we try to short circuit conditions before they beconme critical.
U.S. doctors are incentivised to practice the best medicine to avoid malpractice suits and to maintain the reputation of their medical practice or hospital. The bad ones eventually get weeded out by removal or by litigation - this does not happen when the government controls all aspects of healthcare. Under central control the pateient gets what he gets, good or bad, and there is minimal incentive to correct bad practice. If a doctor or facility tells me that I have to wait 6 months for surgery I am out the door and finding a new provider - as the consumer I still have the power to decide who I do business with.
The 2700 page U.S. Healthcare legislation passed in 2010 is a disaster passed in an undemocratic partisan process by a Congress monopolized by a group of ideologues who didn't read it, despite an American public who didn't want it, and founded on far too many lies to list here.
Government controlled health care is just creeping fascism in which the state exerts its control over one of the most important elements of an individual's life.
But hey, its free!
(Actually this nightmarish treatment is far from "free." The idiot slaves are too brainwashed and programmed to accept anything else.)
"Please try to demonstrate a modicum of intelect."
Please learn to spell "intellect", if you're going to go around insulting that which you do not possess.
"Obama is a Marxsist and his administration is the closest thing to Communistic infiltration of the White House since McCarthism was halted in the '50s."
Clearly, you do not know the definition of marxist. Secondly, are you saying that McCarthyism prevented communism from infiltrating the white house? Or that McCarthyism was communism that almost infiltrated the white house? I'm confused...and I don't have the Glenn Beck cheat sheet with me to decode your incoherent rambling.
Obviously his meaning was straightforward and would be au fait with an ape. Seeing as you cannot grasp the fundamentals, it puts your intellect well below that of a simian aptitude. And of course you're confused, you tend to believe that a haughty, nose in the air attitude, and a well thumbed Thesaurus passes for acumen. My guess is you are, or wish you were, a faculty member at a school of higher learning. Some school that has 'Community College' attached to its name.
Really, your belief that the more syllables a word has denotes your--ahem--brain power, is laughable, and you're the one who could use a cheat-sheet (yes, proper spelling dictates a hyphen between those words you ignorant baboon) to decode your incoherent rambling.
To quote the esteemed and respected Bugs Bunny, you sir, are a 'maroon.'
See http://www.blt.se/nyheter/karlshamn/man-dog-av-hjarnhinneinflammation(2229024).gm
Article in Swedish with English translation available. (BLT.se)
The trouble with America's health care system mirrors the trouble with America. The original concept is sound but has been corrupted by greed. One poster's contention that hard work is the key to success is at the root of the delusion that has captivated all capitalist society. Hard work is only a basic component of this dream.
No. The real issue with the broken American health care system is the myriad of peripheral industries that have been spawned by the bloated leviathan. Countless minor players are permitted to leech profits in a ponderous structure that is supported by the insurance and drug cartels. These obscenely rich companies in turn buy political favor and have become some of the most powerful lobbies in Washington today. This raping of the middle class of America is championed by the opponents of political change because they are convinced that the capitalist model will work if all restrictions are removed. This is of course delusional thinking and will only serve to perpetuate thenightmare.
America is already steeped in socialism and has been for decades. The American citizen expects certain entitlements and insists that they are provided by the government. Military, education, police and fire. The list is endless. There is however a movement afoot to privatize these industries giving even more clout to corporate America and further marginalizing the roles of government. This will create a feudal state which, I believe was the the driving reason for the creation of this great democracy in the first place. To cast off the control and death grip of a worthless and non productive aristocracy.
Government health care may not be the panacea but any change is a step in the right direction. Eat the rich!!!!!
LOL. What a load of BS. My town is blue collar, working class. Not one employed person isn't working their ass off. And guess what, not one of them will be rich anytime soon. There are so many factors in how one becomes lower, middle, or upper class, and hard work is just one of them. My grandfather fought for America in WWII came home and worked insane hours to keep a roof over his kids' head. And his factory was chock full of asbestos. But I guess he never became rich because he was just lazy. Riiighhht.
have a regular job, I'm not rich, I have private health insurance, and I can
get a referral to a specialist without waiting. Five months before this man
could be seen? Ridiculous. That would not happen in America. It will
happen only under Obamacare socialized medicine.
Not as long as you can AFFORD to pay for medical insurance that will cover you for more than the common cold!!
Don't forget about the millions that cannot afford to pay, but they're mostly immigrants & blacks so it doesn't count, does it. Apartheid still exists in the US of A.
@maxbrando, correct it is illegal for hospitals to turn away patients in the US (all states as far as I know). That being said if everyone has insurance it will make it so those with insurance do not have to subsidize hospital losses for uninsured through higher premiums.
@bootstrapped, one of the elements he referenced was innovation. I am not saying anything bad about people that go to work every day and work their ass off. My dad and brother did it for quite a while before they decided to start a construction company (where they still work their ass off, probably more). That is not the point at all. I know several people that literally started with nothing, that are millionaires in their 20s. It is hard work AND innovation that makes it happen. One of my best friends only ate canned meat and other processed food from Aldi when he moved to the US from Russia with his parents. Now he is a millionaire at 25. He started a company and worked his ass off and did things better than his competitors. I know how it is to work my ass off too, I worked 40 - 50 hours per week while I was enrolled at university for 16 credit hours and still received a good GPA. Im still not rich because I did not innovate.
I have not experienced health care systems in other countries but all I can say is I have been happy with my care (and my family's care) in the US. I am far from rich, but with the insurance I've had through my jobs I have been able to see a specialist whenever I have needed (never more than a week to wait). My mom had cancer, my dad has had artery problems which required surgery. My great grandpa is 93 and has had cancer for 30 years, has had several heart operations, and is still considered healthy for his age. My aunt is not rich but has a rare disease, Myasthenia gravis, that needs very specialized care. She has to go to a university hospital in Chicago (40 Km) to receive it, but can still get her care with her insurance provided by her normal job. I had a scare once where a doctor thought I might have testicular cancer. I saw 3 doctors/specialists, received an ultrasound and an MRI within 2 days, and a follow up ultrasound (1 month later as prescribed). Paying copayments and premiums is a drag but I was glad to get cleared that I did not have cancer so quickly (it never even crossed my mind considering I'm 26 and was 25 at the time).
As I have stated before, if everyone was insured it would ease the strain on those that are currently insured because hospitals routinely write off costs of those that are uninsured and pass the costs via higher treatment prices to those that are.
I like how the article was about the failure of a Swedish institution yet, as always, the conversation moves toward how something similar in the US is inferior. And once again I fell for it and commented.
"Check out the report of Newfoundland prime minister in Canada, Danny Williams, going to the USA for cardiac surgery"
Ahh yes, a rich guy getting treatment in the US. My point exactly. It's an excellent service for well-connected millionaires.
To the multiple comments about it's illegal for hospitals to refuse care, while that may be true it's also legal (and common) for them to bill you, with interest, and when you don't pay to sue you, and when you still can't pay, to put a lein on your house, garnish your wages, etc. Maybe they save your life, but then they slowly ruin it afterwards...seems like there could be a better way.
To all those wetting their panties about "obamacare" (the National Health Care Law) the whole point of it is to insure everyone so that it does bring down costs and people don't have to spend the rest of their lives in destitute poverty simply because they had a health emergency. Keep drinking the Fox News kool-aid though...that's what they want... After all, you've let the neo-cons essentially loot the treasury during the Bush/Cheney years and oversee the largest transfer of public wealth to private hands in history. Smart move. If your conservative policies are so great and effective, why is it from 2001-2008 we saw the least amount of jobs created, a budget surplus turned into the biggest budget deficit ever, a cratered economy, and 50 million people without health insurance? It's because those policies only work for the wealthiest 5%...if you're not in that group, then you're a moron for voting for these people because you have been only voting against your own interests. But again, continue drinking the Fox News kool-aid...you know, the one where Obama is a secret muslim communist who wants to take over the country through health insurance.
There are plenty of private practising specialists to go to. Just look under läkare in the yellow pages. You don't have to visit a hospital. Also, Sophiahemmet do accept private patients but it depends on the speciality. Capio Acess also runs hospitals and clinics you can go to.
I regularly visit a dermatologist who runs a private clinic and also works as chief surgeon in one of the best hospitals. One visit costs 600 SEK and removal and pathology tests cost 2000 SEK.
I don't know why you think you know everything, but I live in California, and hospitals here do not turn anyone away whether they are black or white, poor, or illegal. For the indigent, they have county hospitals that are rated very highly, and the local one even has the best trauma care around. Even HMO hospitals do not turn anyone away; it's against the law. I am not rich; I am a wage earner and I can afford Kaiser insurance. Even my neighbor's gardener has Kaiser insurance! Where do you get your information? off the top of your ideologically soaked head? I get mine from real world experience. Thre is no 'Apartheid' here. That's just your propagandistic rhetoric flowing. Do you really know anything except what your handlers tell you?
In the USA, ObamaCare is a solution in search of problem.
What some segments of the US population face is not a lack of quality health care but a lack of health insurance. While some people are uninsured due to unforeseen economic crisis, many are uninsured do to personal choice.
As to the former - no one is turned away from a hospital emergency room do to an inability to pay or a lack of insurance, so yes, there should have been some discussion vis-à-vis health insurance.
For the latter I have no comment as I have been in that situation and know what it is like, still, it is not my job to protect people from themselves.
The ostensible reason for the recent clamor for healthcare reform and resultant legislation is to provide relief to the suffering. In actuality, I believe, the left's continual desire to accumulate power and, in turn, their ability then to warrant fiefdoms to their cohorts is their central desire.
One sixth of the United States economy is a pretty juicy plum.
The electorate, in their wisdom, installed in office in 2008 a super majority of, seemingly, like minded Liberal if not down left Birkenstock wearing socialists, well we gott what we deserve for years of not holding our representatives accountable for their actions.
Good one! lol
A moment of silence, please, for the Fallen Hero...
Thank you. Now, I just want to point out, to all you health-care-debaters:
Arguing on the internet is like running in the Special Olympics: Even if you win, you are still retarded.
Good night!
Or ask all the Americans who cross into Canada for health care or prescription drugs because its more affordable. Some Canadian provinces do send people over for certain procedures but the provincial healthcare sytem often pays for it. Its a win/win on both sides of the border because the USA is receiving CDN money for their private for profit hospitals. Some rich Canuks will jump the queue and pay out of pocket to go to the USA rather than stand in line for their sore knee, but there aren't really a lot of them. The premier of NFLD is one of them, but almost everybody in the country thinks he's a dickhead for doing so.
STUPID MOFO...
I swear they are butchers and the stupidest sh*t ever..
Actually there is no proven link and cancer of the penis is so rare that neonatal circumcision operation complications kill over 9 times more people than the cancer.
I am totally not suprised by this.
I live and pay taxes in France. This means that instead of paying 50,000 SEK (that's about 50 percent) every month to the tax man, I pay maybe 25,000. I can buy many good dinners for that money, and, yes, make a trip to that horribly unequal country, the U.S., from time to time. Doctors and hospitals, I should add, are more or less free in France, too, and according to everybody I know, generally better than their counterparts in Sweden. So where does the money go?"
http://www.nordstjernan.com/news/viewpoints/2622/
In Sweden we are happy with the system that we have. The vast majority of Americans on The Local who actually LIVE in Sweden prefer the Swedish system to that in the US.
Even if it was not the case why bitch about it to us?
What do you expect to do about it?
You have enough US web sites where you can plot your revenge on Obama for saving people lives. Why not go there and leave us to enjoy our peace.
Happy New year
http://www.foxnews.com/health/2010/12/30/mans-penis-amputated-wrong-diagnosis/#content
"...Tyvärr ser vi att vården blivit en marknad där ekonomin går före omsorgen. Ambulanser ska utnyttjas maximalt så det är inte säkert att det finns en i tid när den behövs. Vårdplatser sparas bort och läkarutbildningen är för liten. Bättre att importera läkare och låta dem arbeta i 14-dagars skift (336 timmar på raken), men hur blir kvalitén och säkerheten? Sedan låter vi läkare som förfalskar sina meriter arbeta som läkare!..."
http://www.sjukvardspartiet.org/SVPr/Om_oss.html
There are numerous patient advocate groups in Sweden fighting for appropriate care or numerous diseases. There are many native Swedish people who are not happy with the quality of care in Sweden. A lot of people have paid a lot of money towards health care in Sweden. Where is that care when it is needed?
I'm sure the man in this article didn't work the past forty years of his life and pay into a medical system for forty years, so he could get blown off and left with cancer, left to die, with his you-know-what literally rotting off. It's unexcusable.
Being ignored and not taken seriously is a very common problem in the Swedish system. Check any patient förening website, and you will find groups of people who have been mistreated and who are fighting to get care for themselves and to prevent horrors from happening to other people. People are not happy with the quality of care or their access to care.
Maybe the system used to work. I don't know. But it seems very clear that there is no longer enough money, and people are not getting proper care, and they are suffering greatly, tragically, and unneccessarily! People want the care they've worked and paid for, eller?
One question I do have though is this.....When those commenting on here say that noone gets turned away from healthcare in the US regardless of wealth, I can be sure they are not lying, the hippocratic oath is fairly unequivocal on that front, but does that mean if you're poor/uninsured & break your leg etc you'll get treatment for sure or does it mean if you have no insurance & require long term treatment eg.$25K PA worth of prescription drugs/3 treatments of dialysis per week/years of physical therapy etc you'll get those relatively no problem for free too? I ask because every time I listen to the candidates for POTUS they all, regardless of party, say that veterans are getting a crap deal & they'll sort out the shocking way people who've fought for their country are cared for blah blah blah(The fact I've heard it for 20 years makes me add the blah blah blah by the way, no disrespect to service people) My point is, if vets are a political issue & tend to get 'fixed when shot' but, according to the candidates, 'marginalised & underfunded' long term, is this something that applies to the poorer/unisured in terms of the quality of long term healthcare they receive post emergency room?
I have zero axe to grind with either system, I really am just asking because I have never been to the USA for treatment, only to Hawaii for a holiday where I broke my nose when a wave made my surfboard smash into it & KO'd me for a couple of seconds(I was learning, I was crap lol). My holiday insurance paid for the hospital visit but I was shocked at the cost, $2600 for the ambulance, x-rays, painkillers, a night of observation & breakfast. It was a great hospital though & the actual care & attention I received were first class. (In Ireland I had my appendix out & the buggers forgot to feed me for a day & a 1/2 lol so, truly, I have no anti US bias in my question)
The best care costs more than mediocre care. Everyone wants the best but doesn't want to pay for it. We all have to compromise as to what we are able to afford in this material world.
I want a turbo-Porsche but I don't suggest that I should have one for the price of a Toyota Camry.
A great deal of advanced medical technology, pharmaceuticals and research was and is generated in the US and the rest of the world benefits from it but most of those advances are payed for by US taxpayers.
One Canadian pointed out that Americans flock to Canada for cheap meds - which is true - but neglects to point out that because Americans pay higher prices big Pharma gets the R&D funds needed to develop newer and better treatments.
Flappinggums mentions the $2600 bill for his medical treatment in Hawaii which would not surprise most Americans. What he may not understand is that half of that cost goes to "insure" the uninsured and people who can not or do not pay their bills as well as pay for the doctors and hospitals insurance premiums (aka trial lawyers enrichment fund).
My dad was born in Sweden and my mother in Canada but I have not lived in either and have no experience with either system other than anecdotes. Its clear that posters here have a mixed view of the Swedish system and the US system.
I think there are definite reforms that can be made to improve US healthcare but the politics gets in the way. One OBVIOUS need is tort reform to reduce ridiculous legal rewards (1/3 to the law firm) but because the trial lawyers are one of the largest contributors to the Democrats, this was never considered.
That said, running a gov't healthcare system for 9 million people in Sweden which, in general, has some respect for gov't services is a whole different ballgame than doing it for 300m Americans, many of whom hate the gov't by default.
If he has been left with the half which is around 4.5 inch or 11.43 centimeters, then it should be sufficient for his daily routine.
However still I feel sorry for him and Wish him best of luck. May be some surgery mend his loss.
I accept Swedish Drs . are really inexperienced, careless and dumb. Such Dr should be punished by treating each other.
Still, it seems too long to wait; but, is not very different from my experience in the USA when I required a specialist who was not in my insurance plan's network of preferred providers.
Furthermore, cancer in the penis can be caused by untreated sexually transmitted diseases such as Chlamydia and Condyloma even though they may exhibit few or no symptoms. The bottom line is, that the man did get life saving treatment and did not have to file for bankruptcy to do it. Still, there are private practitioners that anyone can go to if they can afford it (BTW, I called a private dermatologist and was told I could not be seen as a new patient for 3 months).
Before making this issue a USA versus Sweden game, you should research similar cases and their occurrence in the USA or any other country in the world for that matter. Here is a good link for starters:
http://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2009/09/new-study-finds-45000-deaths-annually-linked-to-lack-of-health-coverage/
The take away to this post is, don't preach to the Swede's about health care in Sweden when 45,000 Americans DIE every year because they don't have health insurance.
-HSII
diagnostic tests, surgery, and radiation/chemo. This is precisely what I
received in Boston three years ago. If I had not had insurance, my doctors
said I still would have been given the same excellent care paid from
the hospital's free care pool. I resent the vicious lie that Americans are
denied vital medical care without insurance.
No one ever mentions why private insurance in the U.S. is so expensive.
Gov. intervention forces thousands of mandates on plans which make
them so difficult to afford for many. If catastrophic insurance was allowed
to be sold, it would be cheaper than auto insurance, and would protect
familes dealing with serious illness.