Published: 21 Jan 11 08:48 CET | Print version
Updated: 21 Jan 11 15:32 CET
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A Green Party member is considering reporting Foreign Minister Carl Bildt and Migration Minister Tobias Billström to a parliamentary committee following a WikiLeak exposing statements that they made in 2007 about Iraqi refugees.
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He said he wanted rules and regulations for returning failed Iraqi asylum seekers, and an agreement with Iraq how to do this. He also wanted a Swedish embassy in Baghdad. This all seems a perfectly sensible thing for a foreign minister to say. He also said (so called) honour killings were putting Swedes off immigration. This is probably true.
Which part "violates human rights", is "xenophobic", "abominable", "appalling rhetoric", or a "breach of duty"?
This is a perfect example of how difficult it is to have a grown-up discussion about immigration issues in Sweden without harridans like Cecilia Wikström and Bodil Ceballos calling people racists at the drop of a hat.
Ask American Why they don't want to recieve refugees on their territory? They could be teach them a main principals of democracy and after several months (years) return them to their motherland. To build a happiness in future.
How about linking to what you are talking about or even giving exact quotes in the article, instead of leaving us to guess what the actual leak states.
These Iraq "refugees" leave because they are to big of wimps to fight for their own freedom. They let someone else do their dirty work. They come to Sweden because of the over generous offering by the government here. But that is not good enough, instead of adapting to Swedish society they try to turn Sweden into the sewer they just left.
By most accounts Iraq now has a democraticlly elected government. They should nullify any claim to be a refugee. Meaning there is nothing to be a refugee from so they should all go home.
Would someone from The Local please justify this headline. I can't find any criticism of Iraqi refugees in the text. Did you leave that bit out, or did you just stick an innacurate headline on top to mislead your readers?
This journalistic shoddiness is reflected in many other ways in this article.
http://www.svd.se/ego/mainColumn_s185/http...tet_664107a.pdf
"He [Bildt] said that in 2007, the GOS expected 20,000 asylum petitions and would approve approximately 74 percent. The 26 percent not approved were the reason Iraqi immigration had become a Swedish domestic issue and that concluding a return agreement was critically important for the GOS."
What this means is that the minority of Iraqi asylum seekers whose applications are rejected are the ones who should not be allowed to stay in Sweden (plain common sense). Their cases have been studied in the ordinary way by migrationsverket. It's not about processing Iraqi asylum applications differently because of honor killings or the applicants' levels of education, as Ceballos claims. Nowhere is anything like that said.
I think that something is wrong with Migrationsverket, and you do not have to be a racist or even right-wing to realize this... I'm normally a supporter of Miljöpartiet and Vänsterpartiet, but the only thing I really disagree with them on is calling people racist for just suggesting that there are problems with the immigration system as it is now. There are openly problems. At my SFI school over half of every class were Iraqi. That is not diversity, that does not lead to successful Swedish learning all around, everyone, including the teachers who are very supportive of immigration, agree that it sucks to teach classes that are not diverse, and this lack of diversity in immigration can only lead to the building up of parallel societies. I was thinking about this the other day... Haiti is a disaster-stricken country just like Iraq but why aren't there a lot of Haitian immigrants to Sweden? I think that if the Swedish government wants to encourage more strategic immigration from different places through establishing embassies and sending back people who were denied their residence permits in order to make room for more diversity within immigration, that should be applauded and not denounced as racism.
The casual conversation turned to a gay iraqi who walked past the resturant. They were complaining that he had not been killed when living in Iraq.
A sign of the mentality to come.
@ big5,
Thanks for the link.
Now I can read what the article is actually about.
The journalists at the local should be linking out to material they quote so that readers can get a better understanding of what the article is about.
Like this the conflict avert swedes are shoving problems under the carpet and avoid every issue except the weather and the oncoming fika on Friday. The result is that many get tired of it and their (quiet) opinion becomes more and more radical (or practical for some).
First, Bildt DOES have a right to discuss current criteria of Migrationsverket. It is actually his JOB to make sure that these authorities are in line with reason and the will of the swedish society. If he does not like their actions or on a contrary - likes them, he should express his opinion.
Moreover, he can propose a law that would change these actions and by that, steer the authorities.
At the same time, left wing just squeels and barks in order to get SOME attention after their fiasco in every political front.
Also, why would it be reasonable for Iraq to demand for REFUSED refugees (or legally - not refugees, but just trespassers) to still stay in Sweden? Then they would not be refused, would they now? Let's let ANYONE, who saved enough for a plane ticket to stay here? Why not?
As for refusing to talk which all parties except MP has chosen to do just because the information came from Wikileaks. That's just cowardly! The future will hold many more cases like this so politicians better start talking to the people they are set to represent so that we can make informed decisions!
Lenin said that the capitalists would sell the rope used to hang the last capitalist. More to the point today, leftists will admit the last refugee who makes the majority that rounds up the remaining leftists. Good luck with that.
If true - what? If what is true?
If true that there is a need for rules and regulations for those asylum seekers that were refused? Then we don't need rules and regulations? So everyone who wants a law implemented is a member of SD?
Or is it true that Carl Bildt mentions honour killings? Is it not allowed to mention honour killings? Honour killings do not exist? Are they less of a problem than some politician MENTIONING them?
This is also wonderful muslim method. Suicide bombings? They are not a problem. These bombings disturb people? This is the real problem!
Honour killings? What is the problem? The problem is that we even MENTION these killings.
Nothing that this wonderful culture brings here seems to be a problem... The real problem is DISCUSSING these issues.
Now is the true test of Carl Bildt's manhood. Will he be a coward and apologize for or play down his comments for the sake of political correctness? Or will he be an honest man and stand up for what he said, which we all know is the truth? The answer to this question is VERY important to Sweden's future. Let's hope he's a man.
It was a question of arranging for regulated procedures for returning those whose applications have been denied after due process.
"We don´t accept certain people because they MIGHT commit honour-related crimes". What nonsens. How can,on earth, one tell?
On the other hand if a refugee commits a crime then don´t waste time , send him or her back. This message should be loud and clear.
I believe thah most you "commentators" can Swedish. Please watch:
Youtube´s Uppreninssvennen - Tobias Billström (m). He, obviously, does not have the retoric capability of Carl Bildt.
I still Say: Shame on both.
This was not what was said. This is a false characterization of the document made by some politicians and media. You are reacting to a red herring.
Actual quote:
"The ministers also spoke about several honour killings in Sweden, which led to demands from the Swedes to a stricter immigration policy."
I am sure that they also discussed the weather in Sweden. I am also sure that "AHA" may assume thay Bildt claimed that "certain people" should not be accepted because it is cold in Sweden.
Regular muslim propaganda and word manipulation...
Good for you Mr. Bildt. This is the penalty for speaking the truth in Sweden I guess.
http://www.dn.se/ledare/kolumner/sjunga-med-anglarna