Published: 10 Feb 11 09:59 CET | Print version
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One in four immigrants doesn't feel safe in Sweden, according to a new study. In general, however, Swedes feel safer than in years past.
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Backström theorized that, by keeping to themselves, immigrants make themselves more vulnerable, which could explain why they feel unsafe.
Absolute crap, "keeping to themselves" ??? what the hell whats the alternate ????? Can someone please help me know how not to keep to themselves ???? In sweden isnt it we immigrants learn the first thing to "keep to themselves" ????
The conclusion of the survey is that people who live in unsafe places feel more unsafe than people who live in safe places. Oh!
The fact is that immigrants are not welcomed to the Swedish society, and they have to build their own closed society. The closed society usually is built under particular circumstances like cultural differences, religion differences, income differences, poverty, education or even the economical benefit for house owners in part of a city. The safety of these arias are usually under less attention from authority side because they can't manage and actually don't have much interest for poor immigrants. Criminal organizations usually recruit personal in the poor arias of a city better than anywhere else. Poverty is the highway to crime.
The obvious fact is that it's more preferred by the social system to see immigrants are keeping to themselves. I mean, if there would be a system, which let them have a job, have an income like a Swede and not be discriminated, then a number will rise to middle-class position and leave the closed societies of them, and this is not what is intended in Sweden.
get real guys, wherever you go as an immigrant, nobody welcomes you! not sweden, not UK, not Spain....
The reality of this shitty world is that all ethnic groups keep to themselves, trying to preserve their traditions and social structure and taboos and flags and all that crap.
So what did you expect from the Nordic countries, countries that have been isolated from the rest of the world for thousand of years!! a welcoming society! come on!!! Are Swedes racist? you should go to Japan...or experienced what is to be a latino in certain areas of USA
BUT here is Europe and Sweden! Since there is a high potential of hidden racism in whole Europe, it is unlikely to not be supposed to be affected one day as an immigrant!
Some of immigrants separate themselves from other parts of Swedes because of many reasons:
1- Language disability or laziness in learning or too old to learn!
2- Religious beliefs that stop them to integrate and socialize!
3- Not sure about the future or temporary residence!
4- Instability regarding visa issues!
5- Not enough supports to find a good job without any kind of discrimination!
So, you can see that they are victims and seen themselves different and isolated from the society! This is the result of wrong policy ,wrong regulations, wrong people who thinks their blood is more red, and in one word, the sickness in mind!
Since we think that we are different and don't respect JANTELAGEN in practice!, we should not expect a friendly world around us!
If it happens someday, immigrants will be more thankful to what the society gave them in form of any immigration services and of course, the insecurity,crime and violence will not be highlighted so!
!!! They feel soooo unsafe that they are affraid to tell the "truth" to the interviewers !!
Viking = 100% actual "immigrant"
Trying to compare immigration in Sweden to immigration in Canada is futile and completely lacking in common points other than being able to state "Both countries permit immigration".
You are never to old to learn. Why, just the other day I was learning to.....I forget.
As for Australia and Canada and their integrated societies, ask the Aborigines and the Inuit how integrated they are. The immigrants came and marginalized, enslaved and murdered the native population. That is how they integrated the countries.
If both the Nazis and the "immigrants" would look past the end of their noses, they might find that they are living in a country that is envied by a large part of the world's population.
...just as we are all related to primordial goo and a pretty close genetic match to chimpanzees.
I suppose no distinctions can be drawn about much of anything following your line of reasoning.
The grand prize of relativism is nothingness.
Actually, there are many countries, where welcome immigrants like US, Canada, even some EU countries, when they need worker for different reason.
I think one way to analyze the subject of small societies of immigrants in a city is to look at the characteristic of the small societies. I mean, you can find Chinatown with Chinese in New York, majority of Turks in Kreuzberg (Berlin), or Pakistanis mainly in Birmingham and Bradford (UK); with their own communities, traditions, class differences (rich and poor), businesses, crimes, religious, power in economy and political system of the country where they live.
Now, I wonder if you can say the same thing about Alby, Fittja, Hallunda, Rinkeby, Rosengård, or Hammarkullen. The characteristics of these arias doesn't belongs to any particular nation, you cannot say if these places are for Turkish, Pakistani, Chinese, Afghan, African, Iranian, Arabs, Latin American, East Europe, or even people from west Europe, because all of them are living in these arias. As a matter of fact the characteristics of closed society of immigrants in Sweden are more like Concentration Camps!
There is a strong separation between Swedes and immigrants in general. Of courses, related to be European or not, this distinction can be strong or weak. So, there are differences between Sweden and some other countries, which welcome immigrants!
Canada welcoming immigrants? do you know how difficult is to get a visa and go to work there?
Yes, I know, I have tried and I got it (I don't live in a particular country as a main land, move around). To find job is hard depends to the market; however, it's more suitable than Sweden for immigration from a sociological point of view, and relation between the natives and immigrants.
It stands to reason that the Sami People feel 'less secure' ... after fenno-scandinavian migration into their ancestral lands.
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I neither blame refugees nor Swedes. What you say is true about Canada and the main population of immigrants. Actually for the same reason that you mention, Canada is even more suitable for refugees.
You see, the countries, which are built by immigrants and their foundation is based on immigrants from different part of the world, have better mentality to accept and deal with immigrants and refugees than a very homogeneous country like Sweden. My purpose has been to compare the suitability of a place to live as a foreigner (immigrant or refugee).
Nowhere is perfect; immigrants and refugees are human, and want to see a suitable connection and relation with their surrounded environments, according to their abilities, knowledge and interests; a good society is a society, which makes these connections and relations to be possible!
Not me friend, since I'm a native Indian. :-)
Actually that's only 50%. That part of me wishes that everybody else should leave Canada and go back to their ancestoral homeland. But then the other 50% of me is from an immigrant from the UK and it feels different, so it all balances out.
You can't compare Sweden to Canada with immigration. Canadian immigration policy has evolved over the past three hundred years. In Sweden the concept of "multiculturalism" was suddenly forced on a homgeneous society by overly idealistic politicians thirty years ago. Plus anybody who moves to Canada has a knowlege of English or French. How many immigrants speak Swedish before moving there? Also, at least from what I'm reading, Canada is generally more selective as to who they allow in.
Shockingly, crime levels will drop.
@ skatty
Canuk is 100% right, don't compare US immigration to the immigration in North America, it's apples and oranges. As it's practiced today, no immigrant without a highly valued skill will get into NA.
Sweden allows any koran thumping cave man into the country in the name of multiculturalism and are shocked that they don't fit in.
If you don't have a PhD or are not in the process of getting one, you are . Let the smart, educated, accomplished immigrants in, and keep the cave men out. Problem solved.
The reality is Sweden is Less safe because of migrants.
This is a PR article to sweep the truth under the carpet.
Sure, I'll bite. There are problems between the cultures of poeple from different lands, but the majority of crimes committed in Sweden, are brought against society by the migrants. There are over 80% of them seving time in the Swedish prison system as of late.
Sad, but oh so True.
No, it shouldn't be compared; however, I had to give an example, and I couldn't find any example in Europe! There is no country in Europe with completely an immigration background; it's why Europe is named the old continent!
And PHD is not always the answer to the problem of immigrants. There are many people with PHD, who are looking for job in Sweden and North America, as immigrant or non-immigrant and can't find any. Sometimes it's even better not to get a PHD, it cost lot of time and money, and you may end up in a manual job after all.
Your idea of PHD as a solution belongs to 35 years ago, when life could be granted with a University degree. Nowadays, life can't be granted with anything, our life is going up and down with stocks in Wall street, no matter if you have stock or not!
@loudasthunder
Prove your claim with statistics or...
Even if you were true, it doesn't help your Xenophobic points. If 90% of immigrants were criminal, the 10% of them have the same status as you and your family have.
Sometimes all a PHD really means is Print Here Dummy. The world is full of PHD's driving taxis and and in other forms of under employment. It really depends what the PHD is in and what the individual has done with it since graduation. For example - India cranks out a lot of engineers, doctors and PHD's from schools that aren't even recognized in the west.
I know for a fact that Canada probably needs more immigrant tradesmen that we need foriegn PHD's, especially when some of our own home grown PHD's can't find work in their specialities. I suspect its the same in Sweden.