Published: 14 Feb 11 08:37 CET | Print version
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Swedes are more conservative with money than their Nordic neighbours, according to a new Nordea survey.
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Probably true. But this is a cultural trait which have given Sweden companies like H&M and IKEA, which is known to have budget control and cut costs where possible. :)
And this trait can probably be explained by the climate. You have to be cheap to cope with 7 months of winter. 150 years ago not having control of your expenses would probably result in your death. And this has been the reality for Swedes for hundreds of years.
Sweden is not blessed with long summers and easily gathered resources. Before industrialisation, most Swedes eked out a living working on farms and in forestry. They had to be tough, hard-working, independant and frugal, just to survive at a minimum level. Some of the typical modern Swedish values (toughness, hard-working, independance, frugality) developed from the culture of those hard times. IKEA was founded by a man who actually lived on a farm in those times. As Krattan wrote, Swedes lived like this for hundreds of years, it is deep in their culture and they will take a few generations to adapt to these happier times. Until then, they will continue to work hard, and look after their money. Good for them.
ah, don't take it personally. I say this although your experience has never, never been mine. I find most Swedes warm hearted and generous. Often I have to 'fight' to contribute to the bill at all.
Here we go again with the 'anti-gov' rhetoric (Philster61) like it's just as though gov takes it and you never, ever see anything back for it? One of the best countries to live in in the world (I am NOT a Swede but live here), an economic recovery that's an example par excellence, brilliant social services, no oil reserves but the petrol is still cheaper than neighbouring Norway....
#krattan
your 2nd para does not explain the willingness to help others in dire need - or maybe it does, huh?
I would say so. Equally important in harsh conditions is to help each other out when you can.
Swedes do not save at all. Very few Swedes would be able to keep more than 20,000 krona in there savings account without it burning a hole in their pocket.
Credit card debt alone is usually well over anything that is in a savings account. Loans usualy exceed savings accounts by an order of magnitude. In reality they are leveraged against their personal debt, which we have all seen before.
Every single Swede seeks to have the maximum limit on their credit card and quite a few are not bothered when Kronofogden comes knocking. They start asking their friends to buy things for them online.
They have no sense when it comes to finance.
As I have said before, The Local is literally printing articles that could be lifted from Irish newspapers 4 to 8 years ago. Articles about Irish being better savers than there neighbours were common them as well.
Ah, maybe it's just an accidental technique I naively stumbled upon as a teen. Because I could never handle alcohol well (still can't) I always got the first round in...I have learnt that this kinda shamed everyone else, so now they rush to do it before I do, hehehehehe.
When you do this it's also a very very cheap way to find out who are 'friends' and who are 'freeloaders'.
You say every Swede, well here's one who doesn't have credit card bills and has a buffer.
Frugality made it happen.
Your comment about the willingness to help others in need is interesting, too, in that I have had exactly the opposite experience somewhat frequently. As but one example: I was out for a training ride on my road bicycle last summer, and got a flat tire on a cycling path somewhere north of town. In the US (where I lived most recently before coming here), virtually every single cyclist encountering this situation would at least ask "do you have what you need?" as they rolled by -- this is common practice just about anywhere. And yet, as I sat on the side of the path struggling with my tire levers to change the tube, I counted two dozen people or groups that went by without saying a word. Willingness to help others? More like "ensam är stark," taken to ridiculous extremes.
@Streja et al. - Frugality? Really? Before I moved here, I did a fair bit of reading about Swedish culture and what I should expect. One of the things I encountered over and over again was that eating out at restaurants was generally regarded as an extravagance typically reserved for special occasions. And yet, despite the economic downturn of the past few years and the fact that Sweden is one of the most expensive countries in Europe, I walk around Stockholm and every restaurant and every pub is absolutely chock full. My family visited here a few years ago and, without my saying anything about it, observed exactly the same thing.
Then again, maybe it's just a Stockholm phenomenon -- I've travelled widely around Sweden, but I've only ever lived here.
I think in fairness I would simply observe that capital cities, from my experience during my travels/living, are not reasonably representative of a nation.
I'm english and used to hate going to London, it was so insular, so impersonal and so damned expensive.
I've lived in Oslo and there is a vast difference between Oslo and, say, Bergen. An even bigger diff when you go further north.
7 years ago we had a fire - one neighbour came with two tractor loads of trees - so that we would have firewood for the next winter. He wouldn't accept a penny - not even for his diesel. We even got cards from folks in the nearby town (18 kms) expressing their sadness at our fire loss and offering help if we needed.Another neighbour, whose old mother lives nearby, came this winter with salt and sand to our little forest road - which is way past his mother's house..
Slide into a ditch in the winter? At least 3 neighbours will come and pull you out with their tractors! Won't take an ore for their trouble.
In our little hamlet there live less than 10 people on a permanent basis.
We experience a similar, general, level of helpfulness in our nearby small town.
If the need is real and genuine - and if you are willing to ask - it has been my experience that most Swedes are very,very willing to help. It's like if you don't ask they assume you can deal with it yourself and don't infringe upon your sense of independence.
It also works the other way round as well, caring is a two-way street isn't it?
But, hey, I'm biased - I really do LOVE Sweden!