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Swedish government flouts English email ban

Published: 16 Mar 11 13:44 CET | Print version
Online: http://www.thelocal.se/32628/20110316/

The Swedish government has failed to adhere to a decision by the country's Parliamentary Ombudsman banning the use of English in email addresses.

The Parliamentary Ombudsman (Justitieombudsman - JO) ruled last year the Government Offices (Regeringskansliet) were in breach of the recently adopted language law.

JO ruled that the the use of the English domain names was "at odds with the specific language protection responsibilities which the state imposes on public authorities".

Rather than featuring the Swedish names of government ministries, Swedish government email addresses instead rely on the English translation.

Thus, employees at the Swedish foreign ministry, for example, have email addresses which look as follows: firstname.lastname@foreign.ministry.se.

The situation was referred to the ombudsman by the former head of the Language Council of Sweden (Språkrådet), Olle Josephson. After issuing criticism the case was put aside with JO satisfied that a review had been initiated by the authority.

Josephson has noted in the interim period that nothing has changed at the Government Offices, with the use of the existing English email addresses gratuitously flaunted in instructions for contacting ministers.

"It has now been over a year. The Government Offices have still not adopted the Swedish language addresses," Josephson complained in a new correspondence, asking JO for guidance on how to proceed to force the Government Offices to act.

The new language law, the first of its kind in Sweden, came into force on July 1st 2009.

The new law stipulates that Swedish is the main language of a multilingual Sweden and establishes that public bodies have a particular responsibility to ensure that Swedish is used and developed.

Josephson, who is a professor in the Nordic languages at Stockholm University, considers the use of English in the government's email addresses as a political problem.

"It is a statement that Sweden can not be governed in Swedish, but in English instead. One should contact the Government Offices in English - a very strong symbolic statement, which is against the law."

In his letter to the ombudsman, Josephson questions whether the Government Offices have any intention of addressing the situation and queries whether they are openly flouting the law.

"Should I submit a new report to JO? Should I write a formal letter to the government? Or is there nothing that can be done?" Josephson asked.

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14:09 March 16, 2011 by JulieLou40
It's an email address. Nothing more than that. Who cares, as long as they're communicating in Swedish? Christ, some people must have nothing to do, surely, to get worked up by an English EMAIL address.
14:52 March 16, 2011 by Acero
Can you give an example please. I presume they are talking about the "XYZ"@government_department.se as being the part they dont want in english as wouldnt all the @Sverige.se be all in swedish anyways..i.e. @riksbank.se @systembolaget.se..

so is what they dont want I_am_the_man@riksbank.se????

its not like they are saying f&ck the RIKSBANK.SE we want john@ricks_bank.se are they???

bloody hell. Ireland said they dont want polish added to the list of official languages in ireland....but swedes forcing swedish on its people......whats next for sweden..to go down the same road is switzerland?
14:53 March 16, 2011 by muscle
what the hell :S what kind of a decision was that banning ENGLISH EMAIL ADDRESS :S

I really want to see who supports such decision!
15:19 March 16, 2011 by Nemesis
@ Acero,

Regarding Ireland, Chinese and Polish are the two biggest minority languages in Ireland.

As someone raised in Ireland I can not understand the objection to Polish. After all every child in Ireland is taught Irish at school and these days it is rare to find a genuine Irish speaker.

I personally believe that from age four, Chinese, German and a Slavic language such as Polich should be taught at sschool in Ireland.

Ireland needs to drop latin teaching and redirect towards useful languages for the children's future. China will be the next superpower, but also Poland will be an up coming economy in the near future.
15:29 March 16, 2011 by Twiceshy
This article really needs some examples.
15:55 March 16, 2011 by Stickeroo
Ya, great, start putting Swedish characters in all the web addresses and email addresses so those of us with only an English keyboard have a hard time....Sweet!

Also if this was Youtube, I'd Thumbs Up Twiceshy's comment!
15:56 March 16, 2011 by William Sachsen-Coburg-Gotha
I thought it related to using emails such as sven@goteborg.se rather than sven@göteborg.se.
16:10 March 16, 2011 by Eddymu
The standards for email interoprability don't cater for anything apart from the standard A-Z and - _ . characters.

Maybe in the future we'll be able to use @göteborg.se opposed to @goteborg.se but not right now.

Tyvärr.
16:12 March 16, 2011 by byke
When this law came into effect, I was somewhat troubled by it and so read up to understand the point and value of it.

From my understanding the language laws were introduced simply to prop up and ensure that Swedish as a language remained the primary language of Sweden and that "foreign" areas didn't pop up in a manner that meant that swedish speaking people would be put at a disadvantage (for instance a swedish speaking patient shouldn't run into the possibility of booking up a state doctor only to find that doctor doesn't speak swedish)

However many people (especially Swedish speakers) feels that the laws brought in should cover a greater perspective and and give a priority which to some degree is not what the law was intended for. And if such a priority is to be given its done so by government approval on a case by case basis and not simply based on how good your Swedish is or who your ancestors or what family line you have come from.

However what I find especially disturbing is "Språkrådet".

As while they look to preserve all things "Swedish" they also look to devalue "English" in a petty and jealous manner. In one sense they recognize primarily that English is heavily used in Sweden, and in the next they state "many Swedes have insufficient knowledge of English." and look to try to form ways to eradicate or taget specifically the use of English in Sweden.

If English does have such a strong hold in Swedish culture (as suggested by the people who oppose its existence and groups like Språkrådet), then should it not be issued the same level of protection and offered protection status as the 5 other protected minority languages in Sweden? (Finnish, Meänkieli, Sami, Romani and Yiddish.)
17:11 March 16, 2011 by Danne8
I have to say that this is another of those "ticking" articles posted by The Local just trying to get people to argue over worthless matters. Who cares about the email address as long as you can contact the people you need to contact.
17:13 March 16, 2011 by darky
This I would say is an x'treme case of tribalism tribalism. For this reason, most swedes will remain conservatives and stereotyped. Bilsh''''''t.
17:13 March 16, 2011 by foxpur
I'm in IT communication, when I am actually working. I am wondering why they can't offer both emails a just refer them to the same core root mail... For example:

firstname.lastname@foreign.ministry.se.

AND

firstname.lastname@regeringskansliet.se

Will both go to the same place, then they meet the Swedish law AND cater to international community. It's really quite easy to do this.
17:20 March 16, 2011 by Angusthefirst
@ byke

" As while they look to preserve all things "Swedish" they also look to devalue "English" in a petty and jealous manner. In one sense they recognize primarily that English is heavily used in Sweden, and in the next they state "many Swedes have insufficient knowledge of English." and look to try to form ways to eradicate or taget specifically the use of English in Sweden.

If English does have such a strong hold in Swedish culture (as suggested by the people who oppose its existence and groups like Språkrådet), then should it not be issued the same level of protection and offered protection status as the 5 other protected minority languages in Sweden? (Finnish, Meänkieli, Sami, Romani and Yiddish.)"

Spot-on analysis. I concur with all of the above. Quite troubling as a native english speaker with children who speak english to see such a blatant singling-out of the language as you put it so well above. I'm glad someone else noticed this as I found Språkrådet troubling for the same reasons.
18:03 March 16, 2011 by Borilla
English has become the lingua franca of a great portion of the world. Sweden is noted (and touts itself) as a country in which a large part of the citizenry speaks fluent English and is therefore a good place for foreign companies to do business. Silly controversies such as this do not help that image. No one is trying to supplant the Swedish language. It seems rather that the complainants are more interested in closing Sweden to the outside world than promoting the language. Small minds did not make this country what it is today.
18:32 March 16, 2011 by mojofat
This guy, Olle, seriously needs to get a grip. My favorite is this last part: '"Should I submit an new report to JO? Should I write a formal letter to the government? Or is there nothing that can be done?" Josephson asked.'

Yes Olle, and after you submit another report and waste everyone's time perhaps you should change your panties as they've become all twisted up. Douchebag.
19:24 March 16, 2011 by andelyd
QUOTE:

"From my understanding the language laws were introduced simply to prop up and ensure that Swedish as a language remained the primary language of Sweden and that "foreign" areas didn't pop up in a manner that meant that swedish speaking people would be put at a disadvantage (for instance a swedish speaking patient shouldn't run into the possibility of booking up a state doctor only to find that doctor doesn't speak swedish)"

Actually, I've experienced this in Swedish hospitals, where the doctor did not have very good Swedish, but also hardly any English. So, I think there is merit to the law, but agree that the complaint should not 'forbid' English only.
20:49 March 16, 2011 by mikewhite
Bring back Runic !!

PS doesn't the @ sign in an email address reference the English word 'at' - surely that should be Swedified too ?
21:18 March 16, 2011 by superturbo
Sounds like a reasonable move since english is not an official second language here.
22:20 March 16, 2011 by bow290
stickeroo hit the nail on the head!
00:38 March 17, 2011 by Prat
Olle Josephson , teacher of Swedish, seeks more smōr for his own brōd...
03:02 March 17, 2011 by Swedesmith
Bingo, foxpur.
06:56 March 17, 2011 by mikewhite
Stickeroo, if you 'tell' your computer to install a 'new' Swedish keyboard even if you don't really have one, you can use the keys to the right of L and P for the extra letters. Then you can switch back to EN !

Or a half decent SV one is about 145 kr from Kjell but you knew that.
09:25 March 17, 2011 by karex
This entire episode represents one year's worth of wasted tax money. Which would have been much better invested in education, for example... If this is the type of issue the man deals with on a regular basis, I question the value of paying his salary. One less Ombudsman could mean one more teacher, doctor, etc... in other words, someone USEFUL who would bring VALUE to society.
12:52 March 17, 2011 by sallysees
Sweden, with a population slightly less than that of the city of Los angeles, has a extremely difficult time maintaining it spoken/written language, facing the ceaseless onslaught of English, which is the 21st century's international cultural/business/internet Linqua Franca. Unfortunately, as the saying goes: when people don't like the oppressive regimes they live under, they vote with their feet. And its also true of people under social/cultural pressure to use a language, they vote with their tongue. What is happening to languages in terms of Multi-culturalism in Sweden is also taking place in France, Germany, Italy, and as far away as Japan, China and many other languages in the international community the world over. For example, every since the internet was built by Americans using English as its basis, the Swedish diacritical tonal marks used over letters for correct pronunciation has come under increasing pressure to be changed and more simplified, if not eliminated altogether, as its also true that many of the compound words, would have to be separated if the English language programs did recognize them in Swedish. I believe this cross-fertilization of languages will over time greatly alter the way Swedish is spoken, and it will inevitably be absorbed just as thousands of others are being altered, just as English itself, which is also undergoing this same pressure, will ultimately be absorbed by some other Linqua Franca, most like some Asian language.
15:37 March 18, 2011 by Observant
You must not give the Swedes the chance to change anything as they will start changing the whole world to their liking.

First it was the Driving License, then the Identity Card - now it is E-Mails.

The JO seems not to be very Swedish as he/she has not taken any action on this stupid idiotic and senseless topic. Well done JO at least you are using those little grey cells.
08:58 March 19, 2011 by J.Darling
well, I actually agree with it- Swedes should keep their swedish as long as they can. Where I live, it's all becoming Chinese, even though English is the main language. Chinese on every sign, some without any English at all and now many jobs are offered with the stipulation that you must speak chinese- it should be illegal, but it isn't, because we don't have a language law. I applaud Sweden for considering this and acting on it, I wish my country would.
00:54 March 26, 2011 by Baldeagle 11
Actually, as the Swedish Nation prides itself on it's logical approach, the Justitieombudsman is quite correct, and for those not able to read or write Swedish like myself, all the Swedish email entities that which wish to be accessable to foreign persons need to do, is register another web address in whatever language, or languages are considered practicisable! For example if you are english you are likely to have an english character keyboard, or French a french-keyboard, ect,ect. And that well known USA controlled entity that allocates web addresses, will now that it has multiplied the number of registered addresses many time over, be more than happy to allocated the variants of say Ombubsman!!!
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