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A Hollywood film company was planning to set a movie with a Jewish theme in Skåne in southern Sweden but changed its mind due to concerns over anti-Semitism in Malmö.
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Thank you illustrating exactly why they are not going to be filming in Malmö
Who cares about the Jews. Well during the Holocaust, apparently very few did. Otherwise many more might have been saved. In fact if the world had cared, 6 million would never have been lost in the first place.
the claim "Masters of propaganda" needs to placed at its rightful place. The Moslems and Arabs wit their built in safety at the UN. After 1973 the arabs dictated "Oil or Jews" and Europe decided; oil.
Have a nice thoughtful day
Who has been offended by my peronal oppinion that you can see in one line people from really different social classes and if they have a the jews as the common enemy ?
Far leftist, far rightist, educated, simple,anarchists, skinheads or young people from sahel all ready to show their bratherhood if they look on jews....
Europe is full of antisemits, doesnt matter from which society their commes from :(
@motti
Very well expressed.
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Apparently antisemitic opinions are more in favour of the moderator, than anti-islamistic ones.
Shows very well how Jews "control the media"...
@Greysuede
"Majority" of jews control the world finances? Can you give some statistical data, or is it just stories from grandpa and some german movies?
I personally believe that catholics/protestants control the world bank, as well as Euro/dollar printing, as well as most of the investments banks in the US and Europe, whereas muslims and orthodox control most of the world oil/gas resources. Wanna bet and count?
By specifying your dislike towards Armenians, Russians, Arabs and Kurds, allow me to deduct that you are coming from the great and non-destructive turkish nation...
I am absolutely positive that turks added nothing, but goodness and love to countries like Germany and Holland, eh? Who does not like a turk society coming to live in their neighbourhood in thousands? Who does not dream of his children going to a turkish dominated kindergarten?
Yep, you are right... Jews are the problem... Jews corrupt swedish society with their highest Nobel Prize for capita... What does not corrupt societies is more leather coat sellers and BMW buyers...
If most of the people in Sweden think the way of Eddie123 and Greysuede,
it is better for the Jews there to leave that country as fast as possibile.
Today they have where to go, before 70 years they had no place to escape.
south Israel.
You don't run away, you attend! I do not like Henning Mankell's politics but I love the BBC s "Wallander, filmed on location in Skåne. Even more enjoyable with a glass of Aquavit.
I mean this is bullshit and propaganda at its best. While antisemitism is a truth, yet still not a threat for a film maker. As if all anti-Semites are waiting for filming to start in skåne so that they can enjoy attacking the poor crew.
Every time a Jewish/Israel issue appears in Swedish media it is party time for Anti-Semitic comments. And per the topic above, as always, we have a Jewish issue in the local and it gains the highest number of comments (far more than any other topic).
Conclusion: Swedish society has a pathological and complex relationship and attitude when it comes to Jews.
Result: The only ethnic minority in Sweden that is declining in number or emigrates to other countries.
Implication: Jews, it is often said, are the canary in the coal mine of civilization. When they become the objects of savagery and hate, it means the air has been poisoned and an explosion is soon to come.
since i believe that governments and politics are full of s*, i do differentiate between Jews people and Israel (again, not the people of Israel but their government).
i mean who the hell want to fight, discriminate or go anti a race that have Ron Jeremy, the hardest man ever, among them ;)
seriously, Jews are cool (and rich, i must say). rest of the world, stop being jealous!! end of the story.
I assist turots and students at a local college. One student whose parents are from Bangla Desh asked me if it would be safe as a Moslem to go to Israel. Hisa parents were very worried. He took my advice, went there and was thoroughly questionned and searched (as indeed I am). On his return, he absolutely gushed at the friendliness of the people (Jewish), managing to tour around. He has since told me that from now on, he will never believe another bad word about Israel. Funny old world!
Thank you Johnny 1939. At least I write honestly without hate. Incidentally, when one seriously considers the paranoia pf Jewish people. I suppose that we have not found Europe particularly helpful nor friendly these last 2000 years. With Europe in decline, pehaps the expression what goes around comes around is rather apt.
Have a nice day
I am still waiting for Iraniboy to answer my questions. Do you think that perhaps he is a little taken back by being asked relevant questions>
The selective deletion of comments is a good indication of what you say. You know that you an I rarely agree, but this is one of those occassions where we both agree, which should be unusual enough to make someone wonder why.
@ Central European
You are right. That really is the problem. Jews are used as a battering ram by bigots who want populism. After they are finished with Jews they target the rest of us.
@ Uncle
For once we agree:)
@ Bleichroeder
100% right.
@ motti
Over the last 25 years I have got to know in various ways, about 40 jews, all over Europe, in ways that would suprise most.
On that I can only say I have ever met one rich Jew. He was an idiot from New York and not the sort of person I wanted to know as he was annoying, idiotic and politicially extreme in every way, including vehemently opposing universal healthcare and welfare.
The rest were either in dire poverty or very close to it. Most of them were Jews from Poland, Slovakia, Lithuania or ukraine, living in Ireland in absolute poverty, which no right thinking person would ignore and quite a few people did something about, although a lot did not. It was a mixed situation during then economic boom.
One Jewish friend of mine in England is helped out by me and my Iranian Muslim friend to pay her rent and generally survive in Southern England. She is from the extreme right wing of Hasidic Judaism. She is not looked after by them, contrary to popular belief. If that annoys Jewish representative groups, tough, as it is fact. If that annoys Muslim groups, tough as it is fact. If that annoys Christian representative groups tough as it is fact.
I assume that will annoy the local in Sweden.
However she is my friend and my parents have made friends with her as have my friends who are a very eclectic mixture from all over the planet. We have helped her survive the NHS in England through personal support, sometimes clothes and anything else we could provide which was a lot less than the help she really needed. It was not much, but it helped and was very much appreciated. My parents wanted to invite her to Ireland, but the ausperity measures made that impossible due to financial reasons in Ireland, otherwise she would have got an invitation to join my family.
I have an Afghani friend living with (renting a room who offered to help) my family in Ireland who is seriously into religion who wanted to meet her, as she is the only person she considers a good advocate for heathly religious debate and religious sparring. That will not be understood by the people on the comments section and will probably lead to them deleting the comment as pro secularist, even though it is not as it is a way to healthy debate between believers of different beliefs.
if had a choice between boarding a plane filled with Jews and another filled with Muslims, I know which one I'd get on and it ain't the Muslim one....
It puzzles me how a hateful comment like Comrade2011 passed it, while my diginified response to this comment is blocked.
If Friend of Moderator dislikes your opinion he will have you censored.
However, you are right. I am annoyed that this elderly Hassidic woman has been ignored. Her community should be ashamed. Many of have given money to these groups to behave better than the rest of us. She should have contacted one of the many Jewish organisations to help her.
I managed a training & resource centre and employed a young Moslem (Pakistani origin) and was questionned by my very likeable area manager why I took him on, you know, being a Moslem. I told him how surprised i was at his question and did not appreciate it. He as a cHristian took me on, in the same way, I took on the Moslem, each time, that person was best suited for the job. One of my very closest friends is a Hindu. I left the UK aged 21 and worked abroad for 14 years to discover the world and it's varities of life. I would suggest that many of those who contribute hateful posts do the same.
Nemesis and other decent people =
Wrong on both counts. I have never had a post refused or deleted.
And "Moslem" is a variant of "Muslim" and is an accepted spelling.
These statements (and others) appear on the website, muslim(dot)se - whose aim is "to present Islam to young Muslims in a simple manner".
The web site received funding from the Swedish government agency National Agency for Youth Affairs (Ungdomsstyrelsen). In 2009, Sweden's Imam Förbund received 416 000 SEK (44 660 EUR, 62 742 USD) to develop ways to minimize racism and Islamophobia. A portion of this funding was used to create the website.
Source: Svenska Dagbladet and www (dot) muslim (dot) se
I do not think the moderator is making messages disappear.
I think it is a DATABASE PROBLEM that seems to be getting worse.
I am attempting to let TheLocal know of my findings but so far my pm's are failing. more proof of database problems?
Fun to have new people here. I do not have many who try to butt head me here, but the new ones...
Lets start...
Obviously you are not a stats guy, since your own experience can never be a good enough argument. As for 2000 stats, 23% of the Forbes 400 were Jewish. In 2009 it was 25%. Meaning that the MAJORITY are not Jewish. Christians dominate that list.
Obviously you are not a finance guy, otherwise you would understand that companies like Facebook, Microsoft etc are not CONTROLLING finances. They invent and offer a product. People pay for it or not.
Those who CONTROL finances (derivatives, state obligations, resources etc) and consequently unemployment, inflation, pensions, insurance, raw material costs, taxes etc are (indirectly) IMF (controllerd by catholics), IBRD(world org. massively controlled by christians and muslims), IFC(Rober Zoellick - Lutheran) etc.,
Regionally investments banks control finances. Out top 10 such banks chairmen, only one is of Jewish descent.
Not many Jews there eh?
You are also not a great researcher either and have no idea about differences between peace Prize and for example - chemistry or economics prize eh?
Arafat also got it before he ordered a mass attack solely on civilian population.
Don't wanna measure by Nobel Prize? Lets not. The stats there are indeed embarrassing for some religions, that are so busy in exploring the effects of Nobel achievement in crowded buses.
Lets measure by Einsteins and Freuds, lets see who invented syphilis and polio cure. Who was Houdini, MGM, Spielberg? Who was Mark Chagall?
52% of all Pulitzer Prizes for Non-Fiction, 50% of all music-related Academy Awards, 38% of all US National Medal of Science awards, 50% of US National Academy of Sciences' mathematics membership, 47% of all World Chess Champions, 40% of the membership of the US National Academy of Sciences' Computer and Information Sciences division.
More, or enough?
You are not a great reader either, since I deducted that a person was a turk after he trashed 5 nations. Why wouldn't you be so highly moral and ethical there? why wouldn't you react to his comment? Who are YOU to decide that turkish nation is above the mentioned 5 nations? Who are YOU to defend a clear and despicable racism?
Finally, you are not exactly smart, by mentioning CEO of Microsoft (Jew), but forgetting the CHAIRMAN of Microsoft who is a Congregational christian. If we are to dig into the executive office of Microsoft, who do you think wins in representation there, boy?
"so sad when a whole group of people are evil and oppressive"
Yep, because in Gaza there are much more dead than from the muslim hands in Darfur, South Sudan, Northern Lebanon, Kurdistan, India, China, Phillipines...
The good hearted Taliban and Lovely Qaddafi, Saddam, Asad, Mubarak, who did nothing but good to everyone .
The wonderful cutting off hands, stoning females and hanging gays by Saudi hands.... the peaceloving overrepresented population of muslims in prisons, in explosions inside a civilian crowd... Ground-to-ground missiles in Yemen, million dead in Iran-Iraq war... Executions in Turkmenistan and civil war in Tajikistan... Kidnappings in Chechnya... Isolation of Northern Cyprus. Invasion into Kuwait...
All of this is NOTHING by the immense suffering of Gaza citizens, who get more money from the EU than any African country... HOW evil can them Jews be? Why can't they learn from their peaceful and humane muslim neighbours?
@Uncle
You are correct about the atrocities carried out in countries that you list but......
Can two wrongs ever make a right?
Apparently, you lack the cognitive ability to understand what the word boycott means. How is a boycott a sick mentality, especially when it concerns the safety of one's own demographic? You're incredibly dense if you can't understand this concept.
Let me take it from end to start.
Let's imagine for a second that Israel is indeed an oppressor for it's own pleasure and fun and not because palestinians would like to eliminate Jewish presence in Middle East PHYSICALLY.
Lets imagine that Hamas did not declare that even if Israel does 100% of Hamas demand, Hamas would agree to 10 years of cease fire, after which it will commit to a total elimination of Israel including Tel Aviv and Haifa and whatever else. Or sorry - "freeing Palestine" it is called.
In comparison to this conflict, ANY other conflict initiated by Muslims took more lives and inflicted more misery upon other muslims or other religions. Including the conflicts in Iran-Iraq, Sudan and Somali we are talking about MILLIONS of dead and more MILLIONS maimed, hungry and homeless. Now, a boy stealing a candy from a store and a serial killer, who rapes and eats his victims are both two wrongs, but do you see the diff?
As for the second part. The conflict, the propaganda in the muslim world and the nazi ideology in muslim educational system has EVERYTHING to do with the muslim jewish conflict. Jews are attacked in Malmö because the attackers genuinely think that by that they contribute to a political struggle and not racism.
Muslims CANNOT accept a foreign religion in their midst. Israel is seen as a knife in the islamic body. When brute force of few armies did not help and the world saw Israel as David against Muslim Goliath (that btw was supported by the monster USSR), muslims paid to CREATE a David that would make Israel look like a Goliath.
What do you think will happen to Palestinians if muslims will manage to eliminate Israel by force? Freedom and love? Kumbaya my Lord, kumbaya?
A palestinian state living in peace?
Look what happens to them in Lebanon, in Jordan, in Egypt. Palestinian people will be simply deported, Hamas hanged on the streets, Saudi Arabia will clash with Iran for the established Israeli infrastructure and strategic placement. The country will be MELTED by wars and drown in blood of MUSLIMS. Freaking wake up!
Gaza is just a part of this war which include all that land which beore 1947 was called Palestine.
The core of the conflict is the decision of the UN from 29.11.47 number 181.
That decision called for the division of Palestine into 2 states:a Jewish one and an Arab Palestinian one.
The arabs nations and the Palestinians reject the presence of Israel as a Jewish state and call for the creation of one state call Palestine.
This is the reason for repeated wars against us since 1947 .the goal is elimination of the state of Israel,those people in Gaza shot today mortar bombs and rockets on our villages in Eshkol district, but we live in that situation already for 9 years.
Sheba, are you completely blind and unaware of any facts at all regarding Gaza. The whole of Gaza is controlled by Hamas. They are responsible for any murders.
Genocide; is the deliberate and systematic killing of a whole nation or people. You stupidly accuse Israel of genocide. Where are they killed, how many by what means? Moslems/Muslims are fond of slaughtering each other and others, too, primarily Jews, generally Christians and hindus, oh okay then, Druse, Kurds, Buddhists, pagans, agnostics etc. You can deny facts if you wish. However, you are unable to win an arguement by spouting nonsense.
Poor Iranoboy. what's up sunshine, fed up are you having to read a few home truths?
I have just watched an emailk that is being sent all over showing the beautiful areas of Gaza, parks etc. Although, they did not show the latest luxurious shopping mall, nor the new water park with water slides etc. All paid for by western tax payers. The people of Gaza are very lucky that Israel allows in so much. Hamas has just closed the border with Egypt.
Anyone who is serious about wanting to know what is going on in Gaza and elsewhere. Please visit DEBKA.COM you will only then appreciate the nonsense of people like Irani, sHeba etc, etc. Good reading everyone. Knowledge is power to answer malicious accusations which have no resemblance to truth.
Rick, you are so sadly mistaken about the real situation in Gaza. Try looking up Debkafile, the independent Israeli intelligence site that prints facts. You may dislike Jews, well that's your problem. But at least be honest in your assessments.
In Gaza the area is controlled by Hamas an organisation that is sworn to erdaicate the Jews and Israel off the map. Hamas has closed the border with Egypt, why is that not reported? Israel supplies over 70% of electricity to Gaza and it's engineers face sniper fire when they repair any damage.
The problem for Gaza is not Israel. It is the oil rich gluttons in the many Arab/Moslem lands that refuse to help their own. They would rather spend their money on prostitution, gambling, investing in football clubs etc. If charity is one of the 7 blocks of Islam, I would suggest, that pillar has fallen.
Gaza has no shortage of imports, exports are the problem. Perhaps the EU will decide to accept substandard Gazan products? You are very forthcoming with your comment swhich are always interesting. However, if your comments were factual, they would be far more interesting and worthwhile to read.
If Sheba want to protest she has full right to do it,but the Jews in Malmo are not the right address,the right place is the Israeli embasy in Sweden.
islam 101.
"Jews leave Swedish city after sharp rise in anti-Semitic hate crimes "
In a grim and alarming story datelined Malmo, Sweden, tomorrow's edition of The Telegraph reports the flight of Jewish families because of Muslim violence against them. Quoting an 86-year-old widow, a survivor of Auschwitz who came to Malmo 65 years ago, as The Telegraph reports, "half dead from starvation and typhus,"
" 'I never thought I would see this hatred again in my lifetime, not in Sweden anyway,' Mrs [Judith] Popinski told The Sunday Telegraph. 'This new hatred comes from Muslim immigrants. The Jewish people are afraid now.'
"The future looks so bleak that by one estimate, around 30 Jewish families have already left for Stockholm, England or Israel, and more are preparing to go."
This dreadful situation has been building for years: "In 2009, a chapel serving the city's 700-strong Jewish community was set ablaze. Jewish cemeteries were repeatedly desecrated, worshippers were abused on their way home from prayer, and 'Hitler' was mockingly chanted in the streets by masked men."
Incidentally there is a Jewish-themed film set in southern Sweden coming out this year. It's called Simon and the Oaks. I'm looking forward to it. :)
I'm Jewish, I buy from Ikea (which has store in Israel), I have bought a Volvo and SAAB cars in the past. Though not today.
In Sweden, "nutters" are always screaming for boycotts against the Jewish state of Israel. This is blatant Jew hatred, an old quaint European Christian long practised to keep the Jews in their place. No other country in the world suffers from this. So what evil acts has Israel committed against Sweden?
We in Israel do not wait that everybody will agree with us.,also in the Israeli sociaty there are people who think in the opposite way to the policy of our government and you can find people from extreme left parties to people who belong to extreme right party,demonstrations against us come often in Europe and it goes from boycott our product to the Flottila with clushes against our navy and go on with demonstrations against our soldiers in the occupied territories.
As Israeli I can understand all kind of demonstrations against us but I can not and will not accept attacks on the Jews in Malmo or in other European countries,they are not Israelies ,they are not living in Israel ,they do not vote for our government and they are not responsabile for the policy our government.
any attack on them express antisemitism and just that.
Number of important institutions that Jews control per capita is high but this is because they are hard working people.
Greysuede
I am not an Arabic nor a fan either, but arabs and Islamic societies were most advanced discovered al gebra, al gorithm and alcohol and many other things, this has ended when the Turkish ancestors (the barbarian Mongols) came burned all the books and killed many millions. Sweden is not on a different planet.
Today Sweden is a multicultural country, there are many Swedish citizens that have roots from various parts of the world and would proudly stick to it. There are large numbers of Swedish people who are living abroad and they too send their childern to Swedish schools and stick to their traditions. Of course the conflicts abroad do affect communities living in Sweden and they should all be free to express their view and practice their political and other democratic activities with out breaking the law of the land
I do agree specialy with your phrase:"without breaking the law of the land"
I guess the attacks on the Jewish community in Malmo is against the law,so I think the Swedish Autorities there has to take care about the situation there.
this was my comment not Greysuede's!!! I responded to what he wrote above.
but agree attacks against any community is against the law and the Swedish Autorities should intervene.
Sorry it was my mistake!
thanks
"Just because you are paranoid does not meant that they are not out to get you".
Either they are being attacked or they are not being attacked. Which is it. It seems to be the former. If synagogues are being torched, is it still paranoia? No. It is old fashioned Jew hatred and nothing more.