Published: 27 Jul 11 16:00 CET | Print version
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The head of the Sweden Democrats, who earlier condemned the attacks in Norway, on Wednesday rejected the comments of a local politician that they were a result of multiculturalism.
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Would he have said the same if it was not one of his desciples that had murdered so many innocent Norwegian children ?
Jimmy Åkesson now sounds like a Hitler saying that Jews were not Germany´`s problem .
A similar (but not as extreme) situation seems to repeatedly crop up in the USA. ESPECIALLY under the good ol' Bushes administrations. The US military is always ready, willing and able to help where needed as long as their is oil involved. You don't see them jumping on the band wagon to assist in the Congo where the people are terrorized totally by the "guerillas and the govenment" raped, murdered, starved, enslaxed etc. HMMM The good ol' USA doesn't see a need there but , you can bet your Ar-se that if the Congo had oil, they would be outraged and itching to"help".
Same sh-t different pile. Not as brutal, but the driving force in both instances Germany and Usa is none other than finding a way to get the wealth.
Like I said....A Corrupt Greedy Government was Germany's problem and they brainwashed enough people to see it as the Jewish people who were at fault. Blind, stupid lemmings.....and there are a lot of lemmings floating around Scandinavia (for a sad example) these days as well.
I'm starting to like SD and Jimmie more and more, noticing the behaviour of those who do not agree with their political opinions. They wont have my vote, but they have definitely earned my respect and understanding in regards to the bullshit they have to stand from left-wing idiots.
Point taken you are completely right. How petty and ridiculous to be arguing at such a time. My heart does sincerely go out to those poor people and their families, I, for one, apologise whole heartedly.
Wake up people, it is nothing to do with religions or immigrants if there are some thing bad happens. Blame the people who did the crime? Bad people are exists in all religions and country.
We who lack the manners to vote for Nazi parties are still free to say that your idol is a cowrad who is afraid of looking at the results of the gospel he preaches . In other words , he betrays Anders Breivik when he yells that voilence should not happen in a democratic society
Does this wonderful Jimmy Åkessson not know that voilence is only the phyisical expression of what lies in the head - in his case hate and fear of immigrants ?
Oh no dear , in your case , what has happen is not an enomous tragedy ; it is an accomplishment .
Juss bear with us who have this nasty habit of pointing fingers . We all wish we couldd cry in silence and forget where this kind of voilence gets to be manufactured
right ?
Here is not where the incident took place,stop trying to share as if you have intergrity more than other cause to me you don't,for me you guys sounds like the 2 faces people who are many out there,imagine that
You are fooling yourself to believe that SD are the only ones standing against lefties. The entire Allliance is against lefties. The only thing SD has in addition is their hatred toward immigrants and paranoias mentioned in Ander B. manifest.
Noway are handling this calmly and its exactly the right thing to do to have this case closed to the public. Imagine if it was a muslim who planted that bomb..Obama and his war on terror team would be in action and then the terror would really begin!!!!
When you hate someone, you have no time to know them and you will not know them as long as you hate them!
Of course you will vote them, otherwise why you are defending them... they deserved this because at the beginning they supported him and made a lot of comments without known who was the killer...
@tuerd1982 I agree with you...
When a fundamentalist or extremest christian does the western brainwashed people say ooooo he has psychological problem. However, when muslim person does, the same people say that oooo those terrorists are muslim and islam is spreading the abhorrence etc...
NOBADY says that why we are using their religions, there are more than 1 billion muslims as there is 1 billion christians... There are 1000 muslim terrorist, 999 000 muslim are good...
Furthermore those SD and fundamentalist christians never remember the mass killing which was made by church and arm forced organized and sent to the other people countries in the history...
Many people are quite ignorant to so many things. If you are a young politician and you could even dare place such things in a blog without knowing the full facts then you have a serious problem with your way of thinking. Being judgemental, racist, culturally ignorant and downright lawless should have no place in politics.
So why do some Muslims (a vast minority) commit these so-called acts of terrorism. They just woke up one day and said lets suicide bomb some places. Seriously? Is that what people think? How about the fact that their countries have been invaded for so much time to gain control of a commodity that is rightfully theirs by others who seek to exploit it with maximum economic gain.
@lovedealer76 you say the others have no right to tell you when it is appropriate to debate on the topic or what your opinion should be yet you condemn them for their opinion. And spew hate all over the place. Shall I suggest introspection?
@sfk I would defend anyone in a debate whom is wrongly accused for something they aint got nothing to do with, in this case SD. Saying that "they have my vote" even though I just told you they wont have my vote shows the incompetent manners of this "debate". You just dont listen.
If in stead of the blond, white European terrorist, it was a Muslim, then many would conclude that terror is a product of Islam, Muslim countries and societies, wasn't it?! As there were many Medias, which concluded it before knowing the true. In an article, DN has mentioned, Scandinavian media from beginning expected a "terrorist Muslim", but then the tittles changed to a Norwegian "MASS-MURDERER".
So, when a Muslim kill people, he is a terrorist and it's allowed to blame all Muslim countries, but when an European kill people, he is a mass murderer (not terrorist) or insane, and you shouldn't blame the European societies for it .
Multiculturalism may or may not create conflicts and hate; there have always been conflicts in the world. The fact is that how peoples in conflicts solve the problems. If the majority of population don't wish to have a multicultural society in Scandinavia, then they can go through a democratic process and change it, but people do not allow thinking or believing that they have the right to kill immigrants or innocent people to change the immigration policy.
Mad dogs like Anders should be put down .
It makes me very angry to think that this murderer is already preparing to rub more salt into the wounds of the parents that have lost their young children .
Allready , he is asking to be dressed in a certian way . From jail , he will be free to write and spread more poison . Every time his picture appears in news , those who lost their loved ones will re-live th moment they recieved the terrible news . Their pain will never stop as long as Anders Brievic is alive and talking .
To me , that adds to the tragedy .
The argument against this being applied here is that people concerned with the increasing presence of Islam in Europe to any degree supposedly already subscribe to a doctrine of 'hate' for all immigrants and humanity. This is nonsense on a par with any of the negative associations Mr. Breivik has drawn in his manifesto showing whole groups he disagrees with in a negative light.
I think there is a lot of room in between hate and certain 'right wing' sentiments - as the offender's comments on other right-wingers rejecting him for not being anti-semetic, or his own rejection of other European groups as being hopelessly 'naive' for not being outright racist or calling for violence show.
Saying that concern about mass immigration and Islam's rapid spread in Europe is the same as being racist or a terrorist supporter is exactly the same in my book as saying that being a Quran-believing Muslim is the same as being an Islamist terrorist or sympathizer because of violent passages in the Quran. I disagree with either assertion.
What is needed in Europe is open discussion of political, social and religious ideas, not automatic demonization and mindless generalization and negative associations.
Norway has said that this tragedy will not get rid of their open society. Does this promise apply to the more conservative members of their population who share certain concerns Breivik had, but have nothing of the deranged hatred, racism, insanity, and intolerance for what he did not agree with.
Such crazed individuals exist all over the political spectrum, unsupported by the vast majority of others who share nominally in their chosen 'world view'.
I know a lot of lovely very left-wing people in Sweden, it would be unfair and plain stupid to judge them by the actions of Stalin, Pol pot, senior members of the Chinese regime etc... Though I have just as many criticisms politically of their ideologies as I do for Brevik's. I hope we all remain free to express these criticisms and our own beliefs.
Now comes some interesting stats on unemployment during the current three-year-old depression. Yes, depression. The following method of calculating could well apply to Sweden, only informed Swedes will likely know this. In the U.S., the media [only reports] the official U3 unemployment stat to the significantly uninformed American public, which is currently 9.2 or 9.4%. However, the very much more accurate stat is the Bureau of Labor Statstics' [BLS] U6, which is currently about 16.5%. The U6 has been in the 14 - 16% range for the past nearly three years. The point I am making is that the US Congress of Democrats and Republicans and the Obama administration continues to legally admit in excess of one million legal immigrants, of which 65% plus come from the Third World. This is not peculiar to the Obama administration. No borders/cheap labor interests both want to maintain the open floodgates. To provide numbers for the U3, the U6, and the even most accurate Alternate method used by statistician John Williams -- his website is shadowgovernment.com -- and his percentage is 22.5%. An economic newsletter stated in 2010 that the US "great recession" has largely followed the pattern of the First Great Depression regarding unemployment and the severe contraction in industrial output. The U3 represents just 42% of the U.S. unemployed and equals 13.9 million. The U6 represents 24.7 million unemployed, and the John Williams Alternate method, which was the method used until the Bill Clinton administration "massaged" the methodology in the early 1990s, is 31+ million unemployed/underemployed. So what I sm saying is that the U.S. government has kept open the floodgates during a depression, and several economists at Moody's Analytics and at the Brookings Institution, a think tank, have projected the depression (my non - euphemistic term) will endure from about 2020 (Moody's) until 2012 (Brookings). Eminent American economist Paul Craig Roberts has stated that the loss of 10s of millions of U.S. jobs is permanent. In addition, there are about 8 million illegal aliens working in the U.S.
So in conclusion what I am saying is that perhaps the Swedish media and the political establishment may exhibit similar characteristics as their U.S. counterparts whereby group - think regarding multiculturalism and open immigration are promoted as only positives. I believe I read within the past month or so that a leading politician by the name of Reinhardt or Reinfeldt thinks your country needs many more immigrants.
Don't believe the lie!
Hellsborn posted exactly what most of these people really think on his blog.
No debate with murderers or political capital for people who sympathize with them!!
PS Ormandy... please would your comment a lot more seriously if you took the trouble to learn the name of the Swedish Prime Minister before you posted on a Swedish blog.
SD openly says that immigrants are rapists - SD says that Sweden is under invasion by immigrants that are out to destroy Swedisn civilization and pride . I hope you are capable of noticing that this is exactlly the opposite of the notion you claim to be opposed to .
Face it : the devil who executed all those people in Norway did it because he heard people like Jimmy Åkesson sound an alarm that they are under an invasion by mulims and other immigrants . He heard the Jimmy Åkessons of his World accusing some politicians and other political parties of betraying Norway , Sweden etc. These are the people he decided to eliminate .
For that reason , Jimmy Åkesson is partially responsible for what happened in Norway . The same should be said about Imams and mullars who hide behind their beards sit in mosques and yell that ISLAM is under attack by the West . it is their kind of poisoned message that produces suicide bombers
Imagine if one of these mad mullars denied that he is not part of the problem
Would you defend him ?
SD plus other anti-immigrant groups in Europe does not have
It is not easy to be married to a man in a dress - the one who oders you arround and does not want to wear high-heels- the one who will call a divorse advocate if you forget to clean your plate after eating to dinner you cooked for yourself