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Updated: 4 Aug 11 12:17 CET
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A furious Swedish family has blasted a Ryanair cabin crew after a passenger slipped into cardiac arrest and was just offered a sandwich and soda.
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Do they charge for toilet as well? better carry change, just in case.
Did this man have a history of heart problems and/or BP problems if so was he carrying/taking medication or did he have medication available to assist him if an attack occured?
I personally have had many such attacks and do fully appreciate how distressing it is for those in my presence when it happens.It is very distressing for the patient to see their distress, so cool and calm heads are a great help to the patient.
What - precisely - is being meant here by the term 'cardiac arrest'? Are we talking about the heart stopping completely, fibrilation problems, or what?
Vote with your wallet and just avoid this airline, you're better off staying at home if you can't afford flying with a real airline.
Pilots are trained to delegate decisions to those best qualified to make them, and to prioritise flying the plane. If I were the pilot, I would also have delegated decisions about treatment, ambulances and emergency landings to the nurse. On aircraft, pilots fly, cabin staff do coffee, and nurses do heart attacks. If you ask them to exchange roles, things don't go well.
The fact that the cabin staff asked the family to pay for the drink is all the more reason why cabin staff should not be asked to diagnose and treat people suffering from heart attacks.
On a short haul flight, an emergency landing probably wouldn't save much time anyway, often the right thing to do is to step on the gas and get where you're going ASAP.
If something similar happens to you, bypass the flight crew, and ask to speak with the pilot. If you insist on an emergency landing, it is very difficult for the pilot to decline (unless the original destination is faster); it's a career ending move if he/she declines, and someone dies on his/her plane as a consequence.
I have no idea if their version or Appleton's is correct. In light of this, its unwise to slate Ryanair just because an allegation has been made. Ryanair's history in offering poor customer service is irrelevant. This is special case in its own right.
I can't stand Ryanair but I want some evidence before condeming this on this one.
Did they have to pay extra for it?
As for Ryanair, I can that I have never flight with it, but I have flight with many, many airlines around the world and I have found intelligent and helpfull flight attendants as well as stupid ones. So, whoever takes care of you, cross your fingers that they understand your language or your body language and do not offer you a sandwich and try to collect its price later.
Nitromex - I agree. Only applicable, however, if this gentleman had a diagnosed condition prior to this flight.This we are not told. Nor are we told about his food,beverage or alcohol consumption prior to and on board this flight.
Did he eat the sandwich?
I will defend Ryanair for their service to me on other flights. I have never - never - experienced anything but good flight attendants. I fly Ryanair in preference to other airlines where I could re-iterate a lengthy list of complaints.
There is something in this report which does not reflect the normal service, at least not according to the report as stated.
Notwithstanding, I hope Per-Erik's condition has stabilised and that he is fully recovering.
Do you really expect that at The Local you will read complete stories? You are a little naive. It is we, its readers and commentators who are always pinpointing their lack of journalism professionality, whether many of our "kompisar" do not like it, but, so what.
I will try Ryanair next time I am flying to London. I am going there in two weeks with SAS. I already went to the church to confess all my sins.
Very well said, U fly with Ryan it is your choice . But u never know that u can fly again ......
Considering the loose definition of the word nurse in Sweden, one has to wonder how qualified Appelton actually was? Was Appleton UK trained or Sweden trained? A US friend of mine went to university here in Sweden and completed a 4 year nursing program. When he went back to the US, he had to take another year of schooling, since the Swedish program was light on medical, and heavier on fluff your pillow classes. His words, "Sweden focuses more on the touchy feely rather than hard science."
What was the actually diagnosis when they arrived at the hospital?
The state the Swedish healthcare system is in means he would be lucky if the operator decided to send one, and if he was lucky enough to get one he would be fortunate to end up at the right right hospital.
Once there they would amputate some totally unrelated appendage, he would not have a bed but have to sleep in the toilets, catch all kinds of viruses and be lucky to ever leave.
thats not my opinion, but factual stories from the last few days on the news!!!!
On the Ryan air flight he had food and drink, a seat and a nurse!
If i ever get ill here, i will be straight on the phone to book a flight with Ryanair. Far far far better service.
I'd rather be in the hands of Ryanair flight attendants than some of the staff in Swedish hospitals.
best line ive heard in years! brilliant!!!
It's not defamation at all. I recognized every single article in his post. Granted, they were written by TL, but still news articles nonetheless.
You wrote: "Nitromex - I agree. Only applicable, however, if this gentleman had a diagnosed condition prior to this flight.This we are not told".
Do you mean that you do not buy a car insurance until after you have smashed the vehicle into a wall?
Sorry Keith, but I had a heart attack back in the 70s and my cardiolog at the time, told me:
"People should not only buy a life insurance but some nitroglycerin pils as well, just in case"
17:42 August 4, 2011 by Grindsprint
We are not talking about the USA. We are talking about what recently happened in a Ryanair flight. I truly believe that all comparisons are bad.
I have read many times complains from persons for not getting good service in Sweden. Out of the blue, someone comes stating that it is worse in Bangladesh. My reaction is: "And so what?, We are not in Bangladesh, we are in Sweden.
"crack-head baby in the oven..." Huh???
You win the day's prize for first person to bring up an irrational and irrelevant comparison to the USA.
There is nothing "typical of America." It is too big and diverse for sweeping generalisations.
What is typical of Swedes, however, is the nationalist indoctrination that passes for education here.
You seem a little edgy.
Btw, people on the Local complain about Sweden because most of us come from other countries and find it incredible that so many Swedes think their country is without fault.
All countries have their problems, but Swedes more than any other people I've met, have been brainwashed into believing that the education, healthcare, political policies, infrastructure, ideas, people, quality of life etc. are top notch and better than just about anywhere else in the world.
It's a joke and the amount of naivety here is scary to most of those who have been out in the world.
We don't hate Sweden, a majority of us like it or at least a few of the Swedes in it enough, that we decided to live here. I like the weather here, my friends and family, the 5 weeks vacation and the chocolate balls, that's about it.
It's hard living in a foreign country sometimes and I think it's completely natural for groups of people that speak the same language and that are going through similar things to kind of b#tch and grumble when they get together. It's a way to release some pressure and be reminded that you're not alone.