May 27, 2012
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The mother of a 22-year-old Swedish woman who died after being denied an ambulance because she was “still talking” has reported the incident to Swedish health authorities.
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here you again!
and i fully support you.
Just more of the same. See Streja? Every week it's something new or someone trying to get some answers for someting in the past. How can one NOT point fingers at the Swedish health care?
system needs to change..
What happened is to bitter to be forgiven. This operator is a killer. Cynical and without empathy.
How can someone continue living with what he/ she has done?
I'm pretty sure nobody will get fired and disallowed to ever work in the medical industry again for this.
Why did mom wait 6mths before making a complaint?
More to this story than the family are let on, still sad she died, but only one of the reason is the lack of ambulance. Taxi to hospital?
The article suggests that she died of an accidental drug overdose. It specifically says that she took anti-anxiety medicines and muscle relaxers. I assume an autopsy identified the medicines in question.
None of those medicines, alone or in combination, would make a person short of breath. To the contrary, an overdose of those medicines would make a person somnolent and, ultimately, unresponsive.
We are missing pieces of the puzzle.
Godspeed, Jill et. al.
The US system is currently a private health system, it's just not called that.
Just go to the emergency room like all the illegals. It is against the law in the US for hospitals to ask about residency status, check your SS number before treatment, or deny you service. Only legals with valid SS numbers who can be tracked down for billing get hit with large payments. Ilegals with bogus SS numbers, get first class, "free" health care....
The interesting part of your conversation is two things. First, nothing that you describe actually exists in the Health Care bill that was passed. Palin simply made that up...because it sounded good.
The second thing, which you apparently ignore for now, is there already IS such a person who decides your coverage and care. The difference is that s/he is called the "Plan Administrator" and...better yet...s/he works for a company designed to make a profit. Guess who s/he's looking out for. HINT: It ain't you!
wa
Please don't get diverted. This is about Swedish healthcare and it generally works OK. We also know where the wealthy Swedes go for more serious ailments,.......................... you guessed it, the good old USofA.
I was thinking the same. What is it with people who defend such a system? It seems that all discussions these days are caught up with the dichotomies of political left and right. Discourse is getting really boring.
I suppose if wxman and Den Dover came from backgrounds of wealth above the norm then I suppose they're right to protect their own interests.
My experience in Sweden has taught me not to trust their service. I double check their work even it's something like getting my car fixed. So of course I am not so keen to hand over any responsibility of my body to the medical profession here. I think the problem in Sweden is more of a cultural problem than a political one. They seem adverse to take the initiative and make good decisions, and slow in accepting accountability.
I agree with everything you said except the "slow in accepting accountability" That should read "Devoid of accepting accountability"
You make many valid points.
One point that the Swedish government and many posters here miss is this. If privatization of public services and profit motive is a given. What is missing is system of checks and balances. In the USA, consequences and accountability for the private sector take the form of lawsuits with punitive damages. A government organization which gives administer small fines on private firm in the public trust is not enough. The risk of loss is very small for the private firm.
However, if a a mistake like this would surely result in a huge lawsuit costing millions of crowns, you better believe the private firm would have checks in place so this mistakes would not happen.
Without punitive damages in lawsuits, the privatization will continue to offer such results as this (deaths and disabilities) on a regular basis.
So true. I stand corrected.
As for SOS Alarm and Västernorrland County health authorities passing the blame around that does not surprise me. I think it is Swedish culture to not stand up and admit a mistake was made by them and pass the buck on to someone else instead. Communication is the key here and there was none between these two companies in this case. They need to stand up and admit a mistake was made and do everything they can to make sure something like this does not happen again!!!!!
Stand up SOS Alarm and Västernorrland County health authorities.!!!!!!!!
" If you need an ambulance here in Sweden, when you call. tell them you'r leg has been severed (better yet both) or you have been shot in the head....TWICE!" Maybe then, just MAYBE you may get one sent.
Did you first comment get deleted because someone disagreed with what you said? Gh2008's comment is number 1 now. Not sure why it isn't there. Anyways, I completely agree with the rest of your comments.
The thought of becoming injured or seriously sick here honestly scares me. That there's still people out there defending it or claiming that it's a good healthcare system is scary as well.
To the posters claiming you get denied healthcare in the states, you're simply wrong. Most Americans have health insurance, but even if you don't, it's okay. You can walk into any emergency room in the entire country and they HAVE to treat you. It doesn't matter if you have insurance or not or if you're in the country legally or not.
They also HAVE to send out an ambulance if you call and want one. Same goes for the police, even if kids are being stupid and dial 911 as a joke then hang up, a policeman with show up, just to make sure.
It may cost more, but the level of care, equipment and resources is far superior to anything I've seen here in Sweden and at least you know you can get help.
As far as the article is concerned, it's so sad that this young woman had to die. She's yet another victim of the wonderful healthcare system here. How many is it going to take before something is done?
Swedes have been brainwashed about U.S. healthcare. If they knew how good it is, they would never accept Swedish Hell-care.
The ER and clinic care, by law available to everyone, with or without insurance, is superior to what passes for medical treatment. in Sweden.
French healthcare and hospitals are also excellent. By all reports, only Britain's NHS is worse Sweden. The NHS is the model for Obamacare.
@jacqueline: keep up the good work.
SOS Alarm is a private company. This is what you get when health care is private. It was kind of interesting that someone blamed this on state run health care.
I can not recall the many exact instances..........but the breast issue was just a tip of that iceberg and, I don't see how you can possibly distinguish between Swedish healthcare and Sweden, or Swedish doctors and Sweden. I never have had a problem here with the doctors from other countries I have had the luck to be sent to, but, they are few and far between. I must say though, I was to a specialist in Gothenberg yesterday, a Swedish one, who was absolutely great, knowlegeable, pleasant and more than willing to take the time to explain things properly. He actually seemed to care. I was surprised. He was one in a million...literally.
SOS as johnoleson said, is a state run contract(Swedish, there is no other way to say the truth, no matter how you sugar coat it or reword it) I don't have to say anything to anyone explaining how flawed and dangerous the Swedish healthcare system is. All one has to do is be able to read to figure that out. Sure other countries have issues but I would hazard to guess, not as frequently for as few. Private Swedish company or State run Swedish health care. What ever way you look at it....same manure just a diffferent pile.
I have never been so sad, nor cried as much or as hard, in my entire life of 60 years, as I have in these past three months. I miss my daughter so much.
Ralph
I am so sorry Ralf. I can not even imagine the grief both you and Annika are going through. I have children and, as all parents, this is my worst fear. My heart goes out to you both and your families.