June 2, 2012
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A drunken elk desperate for just one more mouthful of fermenting apples lost its balance in the attempt, leaving it stuck in an apple tree in western Sweden.
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Lång means long, tall and can be used for height, distance or time.
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Great story. Glad they didn't just shoot it.
..but when you actually encountered them stumbling round the garden it is not much of a joke...I do wish people would not leave round out for them though - it is not so good for them in the long run
Swedish "älg", German "Elch", European English "Elk".
For we Australians, influenced by both varieties of English, the animal in the picture is both a Moose and an Elk :)
I think elk is called Wapiti in europe but I'm not sure.
-Coder from Hellsinki, Finland-
OK guys. Actually, the North American Moose and the Eurasian Elk are the same animal (Alces Alces). The confusion comes from the fact that in North America this animal is called a moose, and the word elk is used to describe a large species of deer (Cervus Canadensis). It's this large species of deer that is also known as Wapiti. And it is the deer and the moose/elk that are not realted at all to each other.
And I quote Wikipedia:
" The word moose is a borrowing from an Algonquian language, probably Narragansett, and according to early sources likely derived from moosu meaning "he strips off".[3] The word 'moose' first entered English in 1606 from Captain Thomas Hanham's 'Mus' (compare to Abenaki mus), and in 1616 from Captain John Smith's 'Moos', with possible mutual reinforcement in usage.[4]"
check it out yourselves: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moose
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-Coder from Hellsinki, Finland...my brothers has biggest elk leather (and also other leathers) company in Finland...so that is the truth :) -
Thanks to all for the educational lesson today.
-Coder-
North American Moose:
Kingdom: Animalia
Phylum: Chordata
Class: Mammalia
Order: Artiodactyla
Family: Cervidae
Subfamily: Capreolinae
Genus: Alces
Species Alces Alces
European Elk:
Kingdom: Animalia
Phylum: Chordata
Class: Mammalia
Order: Artiodactyla
Family: Cervidae
Subfamily: Capreolinae
Genus: Alces
Species Alces Alces
#23, I challenge you to present DNA evidence that the two animals are not the same.
Your childish outburst makes you seem stupid, not the people you're trying to insult.
This is a common source for confusion for people on both sides of the Atlantic.
Using a different term for something than others do is a part of language. It happens within languages as well as across different languages.
The fact that you choose to insult a group of people for not knowing a word that they don't use makes you an idiot, not them.
Lets get this straight American English and European English often have different words for the same things. You know -
Pants in the US - are our Trousers, our pants are our underwear!
Your Chips are our crisps, and our chips are your French Friies
Your Moose is our Elk - they are the EXACT SAME THING.
The iconic, majestic forest dweller Alces alces is known as a moose in North America (actually the sub-species Alces alces americana) and an elk in Europe. The word elk, like the Swedish word älg (pronounced /elj/), is taken from the Latin alces. To make matters even more confusing, elk in North America is used for an entirely different animal - a kind of deer, Cervus elaphus, otherwise known as a Wapiti.
Go have a slice of whale sashimi, a bowl of shark-fin soup - And enjoy your collection of fine animal skins....Elk, moose or baby seal pup - Finnish (sic) it all off with some tea from Black Rhino horn!
Also, caribou and reindeer are the same animal, the reindeer being the domesticated animal (rangifer tarandus).
The American Elk has a smaller nose area and a different rack. Both good to eat but the Moose is widely protected unless over populated in an area and become a safety issue then the State game commission will issue limited hunting licenses to reduce the herd. A full grown Moose will out weigh an Elk by 500 pounds.
Interesting about your Elk being our Moose. First time I ever heard of a drunk Moose or Elk. You learn something every day. Have a good day from America.
In North America it's a Moose.
In Europe it's an Elk
In North America an Elk is a large deer
Does that mean there is no Moose in Sweden? And that Elk are really not large deer in Norway.
What happens if a North American Moose from Canada swims to Greenland and the hitches a ride on a Iceberg to Sweden (after sneaking throug Norway)?
Does he cease to be a Moose? Or is he a Elk only until he shows his Canadian Passport and finally gets his Swedish resident visa?
Is he then recognized as a Canadian Elk or a Swedish Moose?
If he opts for dual citizenship will he be a Molk or an Eloose?
If he brings his girlfriend with him are they considered to be Meese or Eeeeeks?
... so much stuff, so little time!
and karex, though your citation is correct, I wouldn't rely upon wikipedia for important information. Pages are updated by users, and not immune from being changed by the ignorant of the topic at hand.
the Eurasion Elk is A. alces alces
The Eastern American Moose is A aces amricanus
The Western American Moose is A. alces andersoni
The Alaskan American Moose is A. alces gigas
The Siberian MOOSE is A. alces cameloides
etc
So Karex is absolutely correct ... Tom not correct.
Make sure your bastu (sauna) doesn't have glass windows before throwing rocks.
But they are Meese to me!
http://sweden.blogspot.com/2011/09/media-sloppiness.html
I would beg to differ with you on that as they are two distinct animals although I'm sure they're closely related. In North America, I can't ever recall anybody referring to a (NA) elk as a caribou or vice versa.
For our European friends, I honestly thought this was simply a case of mistaken identity as I never knew the different nomenclature for the same animal. Unfortunately in the American media, it's all too common for the reporters to misidentify an animal. I can't tell you the number of times a duck has been called a goose, or a goose been called a duck. Or a coyote as a wolf and vice versa. So I thought that's what we were dealing with here.
Ironically, the Drudge Report where this article was linked, first had the link correctly stated (from the European point of view) as an elk stuck in the tree. It's since been changed to moose, I guess as to not offend our American sensibilities. LOL
http://www.spiegel.de/panorama/0,1518,785221,00.html
This was such a funny story they ran it on one of the local stations here in Denver I laughed then and still laugh at this poor drunk creature. When all else is going wrong nature comes around and gives us something to chuckle at.