• Sweden edition
Society

Stockholm pub 'tipping scam' widens

Published: 18 Oct 11 16:48 CET | Print version
Online: http://www.thelocal.se/36824/20111018/

Several Stockholm restaurants are under scrutiny after revelations about more cases of eateries tricking their customers into thinking they are required to leave tips.

In September daily Dagens Nyheter (DN) reported that a Danish couple holidaying in Sweden had been tricked into paying an extra 20 percent tip on their dinner.

When Paul Eller and his wife Else-Marie were presented with a bill on which a red stamp at the bottom stated that a service charge of 20 percent wasn't included, they decided to ask the waiter at the Stockholm restaurant what this meant.

”He said that restaurants in Sweden can choose whether or not they want to include a tip in the price,” Eller told DN at the time.

After running the story, DN has received calls from other customers who have experienced similar treatment at other Stockholm eateries.

As in the case with the Danes, some bars have printed on their bill, in several languages, that a tip was not included.

Recep Celik, head of marketing at Belgobaren, in central Stockholm, told the paper that there’s nothing in Swedish marketing law that says restaurants aren’t allowed to do this.

But at the Swedish Hotels and Restaurant Association (Sveriges hotell-och-restaurangföretagare -SHR) disagrees, saying it plans to contact the restaurants mentioned in the DN article.

“This is a bad trend we’re seeing and we can’t let it spread within the trade," Clemens Wantschura of Hotels and Restaurant Association told DN after the news of more examples of the tipping scam.

Belgobaren, however, sees the practice more as a service to their customers.

“The reason we’ve printed this message on our bills is because many foreign costumers have inquired about Swedish tipping customs. It’s to clarify that tips aren’t included in the price,” he told DN.

“We didn’t start this custom. It’s being done at most Stockholm bars.”

Speaking to The Local in the wake of the case of the Danes who had been duped, Clemens Wantschura of Hotels and Restaurant Association nevertheless said he was worried that Stockholm eateries are trying to take advantage of foreign visitors to the Swedish capital.

”This sounds like an attempt to trick uninformed tourists into paying more," he said.

According to Wantschura, restaurants should not get involved with customers tipping the staff at all.

”A tip should never be anything more than a reward for good service to the serving staff – it has nothing to do with the restaurant,” he told The Local in September.

He also added that there is an ongoing discussion as to how much a customer ought to leave as a tip, but he maintained that there are no stipulated rules as to percentage, or whether you should pay the wait staff anything at all.

“You should keep in mind, as well, that all serving staff in Sweden are salaried, they don't have to survive on tips as the case may be in other countries," said Wantschura.

"I tell people they must decide themselves if they want to pay anything, and in that case how much, depending on how much they thought the service was worth."

The Local/jl (news@thelocal.se)

What do you think? Leave your comment below.

For more pics, tips and news from Stockholm - visit The Local's new Stockholm section.

Your comments about this article:

The comments below have not been moderated in advance and are not produced by The Local unless clearly stated. Readers are responsible for the content of their own comments. Comments that breach our terms and conditions will be removed.

19:35 October 18, 2011 by Imperor
Service IS included, tips is not, though tips by their very definition are voluntary.

Of course it's a crime if they state that you must leave 20%, giving some info, which is correct (round up to closest even sum, 10, 50, 100, 500 or 1000 depending on size of bill) should be ok though, but this is surely not the case as nobody would object to it!
21:16 October 18, 2011 by occassional
Carpet selling cheap tricks by the Turk managing the Belgian bar in Sweden. Grow up and be honest in your business.
06:46 October 19, 2011 by StockholmSam
' "You should keep in mind, as well, that all serving staff in Sweden are salaried, they don't have to survive on tips as the case may be in other countries," said Wantschura. '

Right. The so-called 'salaries' are minimum wages and in the 'other countries' where waitstaff 'survive on tips' waiters and waitresses take home much, much more money than Swedish waiters/waitresses. In decent restaurants a good server can walk away with several hundred dollars in tips alone on a good Friday night. Maybe if tipping became a cultural norm here then the service would rise to a level of minimum acceptability.
09:13 October 19, 2011 by Russ Cobleigh
to begin with...tip is not a word.It means to insure proper service. I have been a bartender for a very long time. If someone doesn't tip, it usually means the service was bad.I know that it is different here than in the states, but; it still means the same thing.
09:45 October 19, 2011 by Streja
Russ, I'm not a waitress but should I be able to not give good service in my job because no one tipped me? I suppose so. I won't give your children any grades unless you tip me.
11:55 October 19, 2011 by Rossminster
("Tip" is not a word? Umm...how do you figure that!?)

Anyway, it's hardly surprising that tips are less common in Sweden, when a modest dinner for two with a bottle of wine can easily cost 1,000 SEK.

I don't think that Swedes really grasp just how stunningly expensive Stockholm is to visitors, when the SEK is comparatively strong. A round of drinks in a city pub costs roughly three times what it does in, say, London.

So requests to pay an additional 20 per cent will very likely be met with a "no thanks, I think I've paid quite enough."
12:00 October 19, 2011 by Åskar
@Russ Cobleigh: ".It means to insure proper service"

Rubbish and folk etymology of the worst kind.

http://www.snopes.com/language/acronyms/tip.asp
10:03 October 20, 2011 by eppie
The problem with tipping is that people tip not only because of the good or bad service. Some people always tip (I most of the time do) and some people never tip, or give only small amounts.

So in the US, if you are working on minimum wage (and that is much lower than in Sweden) and you are unlucky with the people you have to serve you'll get poor.

If the cook screws up....you will get poor etc.

Theoretically the tipping business is good for getting better service, but it is also a type of slavery.

Anyway for the Danes....when we (foreigners without a dankort) go out for dinner in CPH we pay 5 % extra on top of the bill. Now that is extortion.
16:30 October 23, 2011 by shinnam
Tipping is an awful system, that allows places to pay employees less than they should. In the US an employeer with tippped employees can, and do pay as little as two dollars and 13 cents per hour. Yes, most of the time servers earn more that the federal minimum wage of $7.25 an hour, but , it is not dependable or consistant. salary. If it's a slow nght, or a poorly managed kitchen one goes home with a lot less. If an establishment doesn't have to pay real wage they tend to over staff, and make the empolyess do prep and clean up work, that doesn't earn them tips.

I've worked as a "tipped" employee, The system often made me feel like I was begging and having to ignore sexual harassement to get the tip, so I could pay my rent. Sweden is better than this.
ADD YOUR COMMENT   (YOU MUST LOG IN OR REGISTER TO MAKE A COMMENT)
Today's headlines
Unrest in Stockholm
Parent patrols help quell Stockholm riots

Parent patrols help quell Stockholm riots

Parents and volunteers have been patrolling the streets of Stockholm's immigrant-heavy suburbs to help quell riots that have raged for almost a week, serving as a successful deterrent to troublemakers and winning praise from police. READ () »

Police hunt man after woman found dead

Police are hunting a 40-year-old man after a woman was found dead in a suburb of Stockholm on Saturday. READ () »

Two cars collide as elk gives birth on road

Two cars collide as elk gives birth on road

Two cars collided on a road between Trollhättan and Vänersborg in western Sweden on Friday afternoon due to an elk having chosen the unusual spot to give birth to a calf. READ () »

Dad slams booze delivery to 10-year-old son

Express delivery firm DHL has been criticised for having handed over a load of alcohol ordered from Germany to a 10-year-old boy in southern Sweden who was home alone at the time. READ () »

Unrest in Stockholm
Stockholm riots spread west on sixth night

Stockholm riots spread west on sixth night

A sixth straight night of unrest blighted several Stockholm suburbs on Friday night, spreading briefly to the city of Örebro, 160 kilometres to the west. READ () »

Unrest in Stockholm
Stockholm's not burning

Stockholm's not burning

With international media swooping on the Stockholm riots from every angle, The Local's Oliver Gee explains why Stockholm is not burning, and how the story has been blown out of proportion. READ () »

Unrest in Stockholm
Stockholm riots: causes and consequences

Stockholm riots: causes and consequences

After five nights of rioting throughout the outskirts of Stockholm, many in Sweden and elsewhere are trying to make sense of it all. The Local spoke to a mix of commentators and local politicians to get their views. READ () »

Swedish firms 'clueless' about foreign graduates

Swedish firms 'clueless' about foreign graduates

As white-collar union Saco slammed Sweden for not helping well-educated foreigners into the labour market, The Local spoke to researcher Josefin Edström about the disconnect between foreign professionals and Swedish employers. READ () »

More Society

 

RECEIVE OUR NEWSLETTER AND ALERTS
 

 

Highlights
DoToday
LIFESTYLE »
What's On:The Local's guide to upcoming attractions and events in Stockholm, Gothenburg and Malmö
www.finest.se
GALLERY »
People-watching May 20-23
Erik Bloom
LIFESTYLE »
Stockholm's ten best-kept secrets - revealed
Fredrik Sanberg/Scanpix (File)
OPINION »
'The future of freedom on the internet is at stake'
Peter Håkansson/Swedish Fashion Council
SOCIETY »
Fashion prize turns Rookies into players
La Neta
LIFESTYLE »
My Swedish Career: We talk to the founder of Stockholm's favourite Mexican restaurant chain - La Neta
Leif R Jansson/Scanpix
NATIONAL »
Riot police 'resorted to racial slurs' in Husby
Scanpix
SPORT »
Sweden win ice hockey world champs at home
Scanpix
SPORT »
Swedes sweep top French football awards
fastighetsbyrån.se
GALLERY »
Property of the Week: Check out this funky three-room apartment on the Stockholm island of Södermalm
Scanpix
GALLERY »
Sweden win Ice Hockey World Championships. See the celebrations in Stockholm
Scanpix
GALLERY »
Youths burn 100 cars in north Stockholm riots
Finest.se scanpix.se
GALLERY »
People-watching: Nightlife, Ice Hockey Gold celebrations, the royal family... You name it, this week's gallery has it
WikiCommons
BUSINESS & MONEY »
Solna voted best place to live in Sweden
Scanpix
TRAVEL »
Quiz - Think You Know Sweden? This week we head to one of Sweden's ten biggest towns. But which one?
Scanpix
LIFESTYLE »
Eurovision host: 'Not everyone has to like me'
Scanpix
LIFESTYLE »
Denmark wins Eurovision 2013 in Malmö
Paul Hansen/World Press Photo
SOCIETY »
Award-winning Swedish photographer cleared of manipulation
Scanpix
NATIONAL »
A Congolese-Swedish pastor explains the roots to recent cases of parents exorcising demons from their children in Sweden
File photo: AP
NATIONAL »
H&M backs Bangladesh building safety accord
Scanpix
GALLERY »
Eurovision: second semi-final entries
Screenshot: American Apparel
SOCIETY »
Swedes slam American Apparel over 'sexist' ads
Hasse Holmberg/Scanpix (File)
BUSINESS & MONEY »
Housing crunch forces more young Swedes to live with mum and dad
Asif Akbar/sxc.hu (File)
OPINION »
'Not all discrimination in Sweden is racism'
Lana Wimmer
GALLERY »
Hidden Stockholm Gems: Ulriksdal's Palace
Sex in Sweden: condoms optional - study
SOCIETY »
Sex in Sweden: condoms optional - study
AP (File)
POLITICS »
Russia 'lacks capacity' to attack Sweden: Reinfeldt
fastighetsbyrån.se
GALLERY »
Property of the Week: This week, we're looking inside a home from the 1700s just west of Stockholm. Complete with two cannons.
Scanpix (File)
OPINION »
JobTalk: Top ten tips for earning a higher salary in Sweden
Eddie Gee
LIFESTYLE »
Check out the back catalogue of all The Local's Swedes of the Week
Photo: The Local
SPONSORED ARTICLE
Stockholm International School - what’s in IT for students?

 

Latest news from The Local in Germany

More news from Germany at thelocal.de

Latest news from The Local in France

More news from France at thelocal.fr

Latest news from The Local in Norway

More news from Norway at thelocal.no

Latest news from The Local in Switzerland

More news from Switzerland at thelocal.ch

Search News


Register

Register now for:
> Free use of noticeboard
> Special discounts
> Weekly news roundup
> Unlimited use of discuss

REGISTER FOR FREE »


Blog Update: Boston Blatte

20 May 15:25

Hockey. Hockey. Hockey. »

"BANG!!!! BANG!!!! BANG!!! In the midst of the Stanley Cup’s Eastern Conference semifinals series, every Bostonian knows it is all about Bruins ice hockey. Oh right. I am in Sweden, home of the 2013 International Ice Hockey Federation GOLD Champions. And there is certainly no doubt ice hockey fever has taken over Sweden. A lot of Swedes,..." READ »

Trade binary options
Create an account with Banc De Binary, the world’s most reputable binary options firm, and start cashing in today! You can start by practicing with our free $50,000 demo account.
www.bbinary.com
Therapy in English
Expat counsellor & talk therapist offers counselling for stress, relationship issues, sexuality, culture adjustment & life coaching. Private & confidential. Stockholm or Skype. Contact me today! 08-559 22 636 or
CLICK HERE
Holiday Luxury Villa in Portugal
Casa Birgitta in Algarve, Portugal. Reduced price in best location. Private estate on white sand beach. All amenities included. Book here today! edward_george1@hotmail.com
The Local's new Marketplace
Find products and services that are specifically focused on English speakers living in Sweden!
FULL DETAILS
Counseling in English
Individuals & Couples - Stockholm Beth Rogerson PhD - Clinical, Marriage & Family Therapist
Click or call 08-5580 1266 now