Published: 4 Nov 11 16:41 CET | Print version
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In a case that has caused huge reactions across Sweden, the woman who reported her sister and sister's husband to social services for allegedly sexually abusing their daughters has told her version of events.
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Following the rules is one thing, but you need to be able to exercise a little compassion and empathy to balance out the cold, hard logic of a law book.
Elect people into office with a little more heart would be a good start.
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Laws in Sweden are very child-centric. If it offends someone to be suspected of abuse - too bad. Primary concern is for children's welfare and when a report has come in from a family member of suspected child abuse it's the right action to remove children from the home pending investigation.
Maybe she is jealous she didn't get to touch Thomas.
Well, what good is a law that does not work... what good is it to follow it.. what does that say about the ones following it.... and even worse.. what does it say about the ones enforcing it.... Laws need to be flexible, change with the times, adapt to the situation, just as people have to, and they need to do this far more quickly that has been the case..
I just find people use way to little common sense these days.. hide behind their positions and the law.. that is sooooo wrong...
And of course the children are affected.. hell, the parents are affected.... the relationship to the sister is affected.... the relationship to the grandparents is affected.... to friends it is affected........ how s..... do you have to be not to realize this ?? and in the case you don't see it.. what are you doing in social services?
I think the Socials should apologise for pain caused, afterall the law was not meant to inflict pain on people. In the face of obvious evidence they will stick to what is written in book. They will not bulge even ur life is threatened especially the social services. I have been involed in 2 specific cases that untold pain was brought on families for months when a little bit of discretion could have saved time and money. This kind of thing gets to me that it is happening again and again
Maybe, as has been discovered after the fact, it wasn't a serious matter. The psychiatrists' advise was based on er version of events.
I hope they lock her away from her children for 60 days for the common good.
I agree the most serious concern is people will be very reluctant to report suspected abuse unless it is blatant.
A similar case I heard of form a friend related to his friend - Where he came form (Mongolia I think) it was common for babies to develop a bluish spot on their legs and the hospital assumed it was a bruise and accused the parents of abuse. They did not have much for their knowledge of inherited traits in other races and did not promptly consult a physician form that area.
Jennie , I am afraid , could be one of those mothers . If she thought that the penis touching incident was just a harmless accident , why did she tell her sister ?
The idiots that are having a go at the Social services would be here blaming someone if the sisters cry for intervention were totally neglected .
One should not forget that after the children were returned to their "innocent shoched " parents , Jennie was seen filming the kids while they were naked and tickling each other.
Whatever it is , the parents of these 2 girls are somewhat wicked .
At least we know that the sisters fears were not unfounded . She reported what she was told by the mother .
There probably are, but not in this case.
She told her sister beacuse they had a discussion about embarrassing situation that families with small childrens can find themselves in. A discussion between sisters.
The social services should have done an investigation before they kidnapped the childrens. Is that too much to ask?
No that wasn`t after they was returned. It was a prosecutor who digged up a vacation video from before and tried to use it to cover their mistakes. It was two childrens playing.
Why are they wicked? Do you know them? Do you know what happend? Do you know what the mother said?
The mother denies the claims of what the sister said that she was told. And her fears were unfounded. I don`t even think she had any fears. She did it to frame the parents. You don`t let people who you think abuse childrens, babysitt your own. Which the sister did and had plans of letting them the weekend after she reported it.
So, Social Services steps in and does the right thing: 'GUILTY-until-proven-innocent, all on the grounds of what crazy-sis told social workers - no investigation needed. Social Services then traumatizes the whole friggin' family with horror, then arrogant enough to claim their actions were justified.
Not surprisingly, the government sheeple here chime in with undying support of their politicians and their assessment of the matter.
Welcome to family-friendly Sweden…where intimidation is 'the rule of law!
you have a lot of details . Are you close to this "traumatized" family ?
If you are , please tell Jennie to never share her bed accidents with a " mentally deranged " sister .
Sorry, but I can't let you off the hook with your little hypothesis on this story.
"The little girl touched her father's penis on more than one occasion - well, how about he keeps his pants on in front of little girls?"
Uh, reality check: Daddy shouldn't have to wear his jeans to bed at night for fear that his 6 yr. old daughter might climb into bed during the night and accidentally touch his penis.
How do you spell 'neurosis?'
"given the probable height of the father and the probable height of his daughters, this means that they were actually at face-level with an adult's genitals.
How would he like to be face to face with a bunch of some other man's pubes?"
Must say, you have a very lively, albeit perverted, imagination on how these children were positioned in their parent's bed. I guess it didn't occur to you - as it would to most parents - that more than likely the children were at eye level to their parents. But no, you've got those kids positioned several feet underneath the comforter! (In which case, they would not have been able to even breath while they slept) - in your imagination, you placed that child's face directly in front of her Dad's genitals.
It appears you may have an experiential frame of reference that doesn't apply to most families.
Maybe you should apply for a job with Social Services…those are the kinds of inferences they like!
"and take action if some pervert in the park acted as Daddy did, and exposed himself"
So, Daddy is acting like a 'pervert in the park and exposing himself'
(Though he's in his own bed with his Wife)
Again, in your view Daddies are GUILTY-until-proven-innocent.
"The appalling thing is that the sister's well-meaning call, having taken professional advice, has been made public! Expect a rash of horrendous child abuse cases as caring individuals are scared to report what they suspect!"
This person was a 'well-meaning sister?" Ok, so your sister tells you about an embarrassing family moment - obviously having nothing to hide - then you seek to get her and the husband charged with a sex crime and have their children taken away…how beautiful, everyone should have a 'well-meaning' sister like this!
My concern is that hysteric reactions and assumptions such as yours will have perfectly normal families living in fear and paranoia with their own children.
For the record: Social Services should 'investigate' FIRST! Then, pursue appropriate actions if necessary.
am not entirely sure it is right that everyones identity has been published ?? is it ??