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Sweden proposes ban on sex with animals

Published: 28 Nov 11 14:47 CET | Double click on a word to get a translation
Online: http://www.thelocal.se/37614/20111128/

After years of debate on the issue, a new proposed law on animal welfare suggests the outlawing of sexual encounters with animals in Sweden, a practice previously decriminalized in 1944.

”We know that there is a great risk of the animals being used this way are harmed by it,” said Eva Eriksson, County Governor of Värmland, who has been working on the new animal welfare law since 2009, at a press conference.

According to Eriksson, the topic has been up for discussion over a longer period of time and she feels that "major societal changes" warrant a clear prohibition against sex with animals.

”Today it is very easy, on the internet and other places, to encounter animals for sexual intercourse and there are also many more reports of this happening,” said Eriksson.

She also clarified that this should not be confused with cruelty to animals, where people mutilate the sexual organs of livestock and to counter which there is already legislation in place.

The new law, Eriksson underlined, would solely encompass the sexual abuse of animals for the perpetrator's own pleasure.

”This is about people who enter stables and perform sexual actions on horses or cows, which is not natural behaviour for the animal and isn't ethically justifiable,” Eriksson said.

However, Eriksson added that the sexual stimulation of animals in the context of breeding or as part of veterinary medicine procedures is exempt from the law.

A new animal welfare law has long been on the cards in Sweden, with the old legislation dating back to 1988.

The ambition with the new proposal is to safeguard society's respect for animals and that the animal welfare law should counteract animal welfare problems, Eriksson said in her presentation.

Eriksson, County Governor since 2004, has been reviewing the existing laws for the past two years, on the behest of the government.

Other proposed changes in legislation will mean stricter rules on breeding and harsher punishment against those that break the law.

Eriksson also argued for the registration of all cats, stricter rules on which exotic animals can be kept as pets, and the banning of large animals like sea lions and elephants in circus performances.

Rebecca Martin (news@thelocal.se/+46 8 656 6513)

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15:14 November 28, 2011 by yourkidding
that will sure take the pressure off tonight when the hubby gets home (wink, wink) ;-)
15:43 November 28, 2011 by Svensksmith
Sometimes my wife can be a real animal. Not complaining.
15:46 November 28, 2011 by occassional
Just the warm socks left then...
16:04 November 28, 2011 by rob582
Thats the Swedish porn industry out of business then.....
16:06 November 28, 2011 by Opinionfool
Then the human race in Sweden is going to die out pretty fast. We are nothing more animals if one follows the thinking of biologists like Richard Dawkins to their logical conclusion. I guess what this law is meant to criminalise is inter-species sex. But then what will happen to the frustrated dog trying to hump a person's leg?
16:11 November 28, 2011 by Tanskalainen
Will Swedes still be able to have sex with Norwegians?
16:24 November 28, 2011 by Gamla Hälsingebock
Even if you use a condom, and it is consensual?

What if it was claimed that the animal had sex with a person?

Will Bill Clinton's definition of sex be a sentencing factor?

So many questions to answer!!!
18:36 November 28, 2011 by Social Hypocrisy
The Swedish Democrats are going to be fuming! How dare anyone come in and try to ban an age old Swedish tradition.
19:24 November 28, 2011 by Abe L
Just legalize prostitution and people have alternatives.
19:27 November 28, 2011 by bcterry
Thank you all for your comments, they left me in tears from the laughter. :)
19:37 November 28, 2011 by philster61
Will Swedes still be able to have sex with Norwegians?

Why would you want to? They're even more boring in in bed than the Swedes, and that takes some doing......
19:56 November 28, 2011 by motti
deviancy is alive and well and bleating and mooing and barking mad.

Is this normal practise all year around or just mid winter, when it's dark?
20:10 November 28, 2011 by flyingron
Hej raring får! Jag har en tolv tums penis!
20:39 November 28, 2011 by Soft Boiled
So a puppy is just for Christmas then :o
20:44 November 28, 2011 by Ivan Juric
Is this in preparation so the Svenska Polis can charge Julian Assange with another ficticious crime....
21:16 November 28, 2011 by Jamtjim
"So a puppy is just for Christmas then :o"

No! With luck there'll be some left for Boxing Day....
21:20 November 28, 2011 by wxman
You mean you have to ban this activity to stop it? Sick.
21:40 November 28, 2011 by blindkoala
"....perform sexual actions on horses or cows, which is not natural behaviour for the animal and isn't ethically justifiable..." Is it perfectly acceptable for humans? As much as the thought sickens me, I'm having great difficulty keeping a straight face reading this article...
21:42 November 28, 2011 by salalah
@Social Hipocricy: LOL

The comments here are even more fun than the article
23:02 November 28, 2011 by GLO
Some of the Swedish folk should get into town more often!
23:11 November 28, 2011 by nparry
Does this mean the population of Svenssons and Ericssons will decline rapidly?
23:18 November 28, 2011 by strixy
This kind of shows how civilised Sweden really is... . using animals for people's pleasure like an accessory.
00:36 November 29, 2011 by Hot stuff
Perhaps that's the real reason a Moose recently got stuck in a tree.
00:36 November 29, 2011 by Gamla Hälsingebock
I have not heard any complaints from the animals...and don't they taste better when they are happy?
01:45 November 29, 2011 by yourkidding
@ Gamla Hälsingebock

typical comment from you. I guess we know where the "goat" part of old goat came from.
03:27 November 29, 2011 by volvoman9
Really? Wow!
05:01 November 29, 2011 by RobinHood
Oh dear!

Does anybody want to buy a herd of goats?
08:42 November 29, 2011 by area man
Exactly, Robinhood, I also predict a steep price drop for sheep...
09:37 November 29, 2011 by vancer
Now I understand why hunting is so popular here!

All those men heading off into the woods..wounding the animal first so it cant escape...

I guess one this is banned the number of hunters will drop quite a lot
10:44 November 29, 2011 by Jes
It is all bizarre !

First , it is amazing that Sweden , which has a lot of laws that protect animals and human rights had somehow forgotten to have a law that prohibits bestiality.

Second , in the liberal world we live in , one wonders if Eva Eriksson can ever prove that "animals are harmed " when they have sex with humans . . Someone might argue that eating meat harms animals more than anything else. I hear the words "freedom" and "love" being used a lot here .

Thirdly , it is dissappointing to notice that there is not one single intelligent comment on the topic . Most comments are actually stale jokes that look like they were sent in from a zoo .

Is this 2011 ?
14:12 November 29, 2011 by hjoian
what does this say about this country when you have to make this a law? How would this be policed? Its an outrageous thing for a minister to be even wasteing time on,is there nothing more important requiring your input?
15:29 November 29, 2011 by John.Smith
Oh dear.... I am just waiting for someone to say that it is the immigrants fault.
17:09 November 29, 2011 by Jes
@hjoian , it says a lot when a country forgets to make a law that forbids humans to have sex with animals . Remember that Sweden has a law that forbids adults to make a living out of provinding sex to other adults who prefer paying for it.

Remember that Sweden has laws that forbid a man or a woman to marry more than one wife or one husband at a time

Remember that Sweden has a law that forbids transporting pigs in vehicles for more than 8 or so hours . Remember that Sweden has laws that Sweden has laws that forbids a pig farmer to slaughter his pigs using anything that is not recommended by the government .

If bestiality is classified as a social abomination - an offence agianst nature , why shouldn`t be illegal ?

If you begin by asking how a law is going policed , you will end up with no law.
02:56 November 30, 2011 by Gamla Hälsingebock
I am really distraught now!

Did you see her...in the picture?

She is third from the right... the tall, light skinned one...

did you see her erect...ears?

Did you see her flared nostrils?

My God, she is sooooo hot!

Now they think of laws? Not fair!!!!!!!
09:25 November 30, 2011 by Holpio
It used to be illegal to have sex with animal. But the it was baked-in with the law against sodomy/homosexuallity so when they decriminalized homosexuals in the 40's they automatically decriminalized bestiality too.

I guess until now sex with animals have not been seen as a big problem especially since cruelty to animals has been criminalized since way back. But since it is kind of hard to know if having sex with a horse or a dog always harms the animal and in turn is considered "cruel" they think it is best just criminlized all sex with animals even if they can not prove that animal have been harmed.
10:12 November 30, 2011 by Jes
"when they decriminalized homosexuals in the 40's they automatically decriminalized bestiality too"

Oh dear !
14:35 November 30, 2011 by RobinHood
@Gamla Hälsingebock

The second from the left rings my cow bell. Want to meet up for a foursome while it's still legal to roger a cow?
16:41 November 30, 2011 by Svensksmith
@ Gamla and RobinHood

You guys are just sick! The second one from the left is a real cow. Now the one on the far right, on the other hand, is a likely looking lass.
17:39 November 30, 2011 by reader
My Rent A Goat business won't succeed then! Looks like it'll be back to Roger the cabin boy!
17:51 November 30, 2011 by Gamla Hälsingebock
Can we get together and buy the herd?

Then we could try them out...so to speak and award a Blue Ribbon to the winner.

Also we could form a dairy cooperative and use our experiences with them as advertisements for dairy products.

Any ideas for slogans/logos, etc.. LOL
19:28 November 30, 2011 by Svensksmith
Is that where clotted cream comes from?
03:44 December 1, 2011 by Gamla Hälsingebock
And now we come to a new beginning.

No human females have posted their desire to be penetrated and filled by a large phallus, only found on farm animals.

Why is that?

Aren't there any feminists out there wanting to be equal to men in everything?

Ladies?

Please reply...
13:35 December 1, 2011 by RobinHood
Let's end the day with a post orgy barbeque and prove you can in fact have your cake and then eat it.
12:30 December 2, 2011 by philster61
I feel a song coming on........

"Why don't you build me up......... Buttercup"
16:27 December 2, 2011 by Paddy
Political Correctness gone mad!!
18:46 December 2, 2011 by tadchem
Thursday night the US Senate approved a bill that would (among other things) repeal the ban on both sodomy and sex with animals for the US Military (Article 125 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice). It still has not been approved by the House of Representatives. If the House approves it will need to be signed by the President.
23:52 December 2, 2011 by forsdavg
Does the ban include other animals apart from the obvious. Are mosquitos and caterpillars and fish also now taboo for the romantics who are hungry for something different in their lives. And what are the penalties likely to handed down to someone caught 'in flagrante delicto' with his neighbours gerbil. There are many questions... Does it mean full penetration or can kissing and fondling be considered only a minor offence ... Does it only include animals under 18....
20:34 December 3, 2011 by Khaliil
John.Smith

Oh dear.... I am just waiting for someone to say that it is the immigrants fault.

The usual suspects!

How can a civilized Christian nation decriminalize sex with animals?

This makes Sodom & Gomorrah sound like holy places to migrate to & start a family.
00:31 December 5, 2011 by Da Goat
I say re-instate the 1940's law, after all we can't discriminate against the few in favour of the other sick'os !

I was a bit worried reading the article that there was a exemption for kiwis as sheep and goats were not mentioned! LOL

the homosexuals should be protesting this as it is a curb on their freedom, it is a step backwards for them, the thin edge of the wedge is being squeezed out.

maybe if bestiality is outlawed they could be next. perhaps one could get written permission from your animal the same as they do!
17:50 December 9, 2011 by grr
QUOTE from above: "Thirdly , it is disappointing to notice that there is not one single intelligent comment on the topic . Most comments are actually stale jokes that look like they were sent in from a zoo ."

Seems somewhat insulting to zookeepers around the world, but, here goes with a serious (hopefully) intelligent comment. Prepare to be bored (most of you):

In centuries past, before animal rights laws, the Swedish church ruled very strongly in this area of morality. Nearly all Nordic countries pursued the "Heidi" tradition of having only young girls and/or women take the families' animals up the to summer pastures. Beginning the journey in early spring, young women walked with a collection of cows, sheep and goats, often high up in the mountains.

Called vallkulla, fäbod kulla fäbod stinta, etc. were what the girls were called in Sweden and sætre jenta, etc. in Norway. These young women labored all day in near total isolation to care for the animals, often even gathering leaves from trees to feed them. Each morning and evening they labored to milk the animals. During the day, because of the absence of refrigeration, they labored to make butter, cheese and other byproducts from the milk. Sometimes there were other females living together, caring for many animals.

It was a blessing when boys had the courage to make the long journey up to the summer farm on weekends to play music and dance. Boys were usually forced to sleep in the attic or barn. Sometimes they were permitted in the cabin...probably where the custom of "bundling" originated and continued being practiced in early American history.

These women-only occupations were held in very high esteem among the rural communities, as very often a family only owned one cow or goat. Milk and its byproducts was the staple of rural life. Butter was too valuable to eat by the family and was usually sold. All but the wealthiest rural families mostly existed on a diet of boiled grains, barley and oats and cheese. The farm animals were seldom killed and eaten as they were too valuable.

It wasn't until the 18th and 19th century emigration to North America that the gender roles switched: men began doing the milking and caring for the livestock and women had ONLY to churn the butter, make the cheese, care for the vegetable garden, do the housekeeping and care for a dozen or so children (piece of cake).

My grandmother came about through one of these weekend assignations so I know they didn't dance and play music ALL the time during the summer farm weekends. So, if you want to learn more about the FUN side of this occupation, Google "vallkulla". Swedish artist Anders Zorn, among others, was fascinated by the life of these very strong and resourceful women.

No, I'm not female, but really do appreciate the girls of old (and new) Sweden. In fact I'm looking for a new one as I write.
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