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Swedish minister for the environment, Lena Ek, welcomed the deal to decrease emissions of greenhouse gases, reached on Sunday following intense negotiations during the UN Climate Change Conference in South Africa.
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The Indian representative blatantly said so. "flexibility" indeed! It will break poor Lenas heart.
Seriously, the US Senate will never ratify Kyoto II just as it never ratified Kyoto I. See, Americans are paying attention and won't allow their directly elected political elites to bargain away their liberty to the UN. Too bad the same can't be said for Europeans.
care to back up your comments rather than just trolling?
why is it a farce?
why are these people evil?
had no idea that protecting the earths future was an evil farce.
i guess you live on a different planet?
but...,
eventually a warmer planet will be much better than the icy world we live in today...
Eventually maybe yes....but the road to get there will be horrible.
I especially think India, China and the US are playing dangerous games here....those morons have no idea how to build good dikes protecting them from the water, and more than half of them are living very close to the oceans.
"Why is it a farce?"
1. Arrange month long international conference in warm exotic place
2. create massive carbon footprint assembling thousands of delegates
3. delegates stay in top class hotels and dine at out public expense for a month
4. do nothing until last possible moment, and then stay up until 04.00 on last day
5. reach a vague, wishy washy agreement that most countries will ignore anyway
6. announce it as yet another triumphant treaty that will save the world
7. repeat procedure every two years, ad infinitum
1 to 7 = "farce". Now you tell me why it is not a farce.
please reread the comments.
Liquidmonkey reacted on the statement 'global warming is a farce' made by GLO (#2).
You are giving reasons why this conference is a farce.
They are two different things. It seems that you like to discuss with yourself a lot.
first off, the OP called global warming a farce and i was asking about that.
but, your right, these so-called global summits are a farce. the top polluters are unwilling to contribute any money to fix a problem they are responsible for creating in the first place.
if stronger laws were in place that held industries accountable for their environmental impact we probably wouldn't need these summits.
the fact that the US is unwilling to commit, AGAIN, is a total disappointment, AGAIN.
Global warming is a farce because, among many other things:
1. Science is a process that pits skepticism against consensus, such that relying on consensus to oppress skeptics is not science but rather politics, ergo, global warming is not science but rather politics.
2. Allowing politicians to control carbon energy extraction and use would put them in control of a necessary input to nearly all economic activity, thereby putting them in control of nearly all economic activity; politicians can't be trusted with this kind of power (see the histories of the "Soviet Union" and "East Germany").
3. No scientist guarantees that reducing carbon dioxide emissions to pre-industrial levels will result in the pre-industrial climate, and for good reason: Nature is a dynamic system.
4. Why should man devote his scarce resources and energies to reestablishing the pre-industrial climate, or for that matter some static climate? Which climate is ideal, what makes it so, and why is certain penury and slavery to the state preferable to climate change?
5. Farcical philosophy produces farcical politics; if man is not part of nature, then what is he, and why should he suffer to meet obligations to nature that he imposes on himself arbitrarily and without consideration or return? In Switzerland, plants have constitutional rights. Who gave them such rights, and who will be offended if they're withdrawn?
This list of objections to AGW fanaticism is cursory, but I've never encountered an environmentalist willing to tackle even two of its items, particularly the last one. Any of you Local posters willing to try?
Wonder where Greenland got it's name from? Could it be that there were no ice there? Naw, it couldn't, could it? I also heard that Sweden was once under Ice.!
This is the way it is, temperatures comes and goes. Get used to it!