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It amazes me how many people kill themselves or others over financial problems. It is never worth it!! things can be worked out in some way!!
First - swedish social service is not so bad - especially about children
Second - all criminals knows: swedish prison 5-stars hotel
That's not an excuse to kill your children. There might not be many doors open, but there is at least a window. You don't kill your children because you don't have enough money. I'm sure she regrets it, but two lives were lost because of her actions.
When I first saw the headline I assumed it was some sort of mental illness, the one where women kill their children soon after birth because of depression. It's not that because they were older already.
Too bad, the Swedish system is not about justice.
Perhaps the single most bizarre comment to be found on this site in years. This is, after all, a Swedish forum, although in an English format AND it is an open forum. Playing to your own inadequacies by acting as the arbiter of language usage is, at the very least, bigoted and ill-mannered. In other words, who died and put you in charge?
What a staggering lack of empathy are you displaying here.
And also a lack of basic understanding of things.
This mother was so messed up in her head and depressed that she thought the only way out was to die with the three of them. Do you think a prison sentence would only come close to that level of horror? (no of course not, and I guess you are not a parent otherwise you would understand)
Do you think that prison sentences would scare would be family killers? Of course not.
Sadly these type of things happen several times per year in a country the size of sweden. (so let's say 1 per year per 3 million inhabitants or so) Even more times where the results wasn't this bad.
The only thing important here is to make sure that there are services in place that try and spot these psychological problems in an early stage so that help may come in time.
@Julie Lou
I am astonished! This is perhaps one of the saddest articles ever on the TL and you choose to comment on the standard of someone's English? Have you no heart at all?
I just dont believe this woman.
She was not so messed up in her head and depressed to cheat police and husband. She was enough strong too kill own children but too weak to kill self. I think swedish society is not ready to accept that killers like she are not messed-depressed but just cold killers. If we accept her story, in this case she is not guilty - she is just victim of social system.
The question is not if she is guilty or not. The question is how do we minimize these things happening in the future.
If you kill your own children you ARE pretty messed up in your head. No discussion.
@ JulieLou40 , that guy is just showing his sympathy and expressing his feelings about this extremely sad news, and you are talking about his english?!! well if you dont understand what he means, that means your intelligence is terribly low, no matter what language that guy would have used. and talking about somebody's language ability bellow this sad news, means your humane senses are terribly weak too.
I also don't understand what he means and my 'intelligence is terribly high'.
:)
i doubt that :-)
well, both of you seem to have a problem with his name. because i am not einstein and i do understand perfectly what he tries to say.
and one more thing for you, like me i am not an english native speaker and i have never wanted to be. as an italian native speaker if i do mistake in english, it is understandable and perfectly alright. just grow up then you understand other people :-)
@JulieLou40: You Said:
"I agree. She's never going to be able to forgive herself, and as somebody suffering mental issues, it's going to feel even worse. Don't get me wrong-my primary concern is for the poor boys who died, but she was obviously on a different planet so to speak, at the time.
It amazes me how many people kill themselves or others over financial problems. It is never worth it!! things can be worked out in some way!!"
Followed shortly by:
"@ comment number 3: Your comment doesn't make sense. Perhaps you would care to learn English before commenting on an English-speaking forum."
In light of those comments, I'd like to point out that "who" should be "that", the use of double exclamation marks is incorrect in the English language, the word "things" should be capitalized in your last sentence of the first comment, and again, you really should only use one exclamation mark when making an exclamatory comment.
I take some issue with your use of commas instead of semi-colons, but not to a great extent, so I'll let it slide. However, I do think that your use of "so to speak" and allusions to other planets could have been expressed in a different and much clearer way. Your comments are far from an exemplary sample of the written English language.
Furthermore, in your second comment, you indicate that this is an English-Speaking forum, which is actually incorrect. This is an English Language forum (no hyphen, please) and does not "speak", as such.
So please, before lecturing others on their use of a language that you yourself have not mastered, take a break from the keyboard, breathe deeply and see if you can't just get past it. If you don't understand someone's comment, it is much easier to politely ask for an explanation rather than being rude and obnoxious. I know, psychologically, you probably experienced a little exhilaration with your rudeness, but did you stop and consider how the person on the receiving side of your comments might feel - even for a moment? Did you care? Do you now? Was this vitriol really necessary?