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Some forty Swedish women gathered at a Malmö square in the afternoon on Thursday, taking a stand against the recent internet storm vilifying women's hairy armpits.
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And tell me something: Why didnt they already have hairy armpits in the first place?
And as earlier posted, the "problem" of women's underarm hair in the West is often traced back to 1915 when sleeveless and sheer-sleeved dresses were popular for US and UK women of status. An ad in "Harper's" with a bare-pitted lass said women should remove *objectionable* hair. Razors were soon marketed specifically to women, with *adverts claiming* underarm hair was unhygienic and unfeminine.… (When hemlines rose, legs got shaved as well.) The legacy of advertising: convince people there's something wrong with them so you can sell them the solution.
During her lifetime, the average woman will spend an average of 58.4 days shaving!! Is it worth it?? :)
Search of new battlefields is in progesss then ......what ´d a next one after stopping the equal depilation ?
Freedom for women to stay home with kids full time ?
If that is true, then how come deodorant works just fine on men who do not (usually) shave their pits?
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Its ok if women wants to have hair underarm, on theyr private areas, on theyr legs or theyr faces... Just do it if you feel good with that.
But also they must be aware that this may be seen unattractive for some people, like everything. I dont think its anything about gender as even men nowadays get rid of underarm hair for hygiene cosmetic and just to look better :)
In my opinion just live and let live others like they want to :)
Do you realize that the main point of "equality" is that everything arround, so also the perceptions of SOME PEOPLE, must change ?
So obsolete one man´s meat is another man´s poison or different strokes for different folk and aslo someone likes cakes and someone likes janes must be changed !
Everyone must like everyone according the rules, banes, orders and regulations !
No dislike and dislikers in our society :)
Punish them all equally ! In name of equality!
There's something seriously wrong with society when women are called disgusting, dirty, lazy and judged so severely, just for choosing not to spend time altering their bodies (shaving, waxing, applying makeup, doing their hair etc.) for the pleasure of men.
It's screwed up.
The case will be thrown out in minutes.
One EP is not equal to whole society , large part of women are not shawing becouse of the men pleasure, but becouse there are no more species :D, a lot of women ´d like to stop urinate or defecate becouse is soooooooooo primitive :).
There is large group of men, who like women unshaved, but if you ll tell this to feminist, the answer would be what ? That this sexist behavior tooooooo :D
Kudos to the women, it should be up to us if we want to shave or not.
And men are free to not date them.
You mean there are no fuzzy muzzies?
Feminists will demonstrate for whatever reason. If the trend continues, there will be more "hens" in the future of Sweden. We shall see, what we shell see.
As Archie1954 noted - there are other issues to be worried about in the ladies in the photo - anorexic bellies for one.
I think the whole this is quite funny really - blown up by the press and some very small minded people.
isnt it the movement that is the reason for the depopulation of europe ,luck of new births and its replacements by newcomers ?
i think they started fuelled by the arrival of contraceptives in 1962
I forgot to respond to this even though it's none of your business. I can't remember all the 'dates' I have had. And some did have hairy armpits, YUM!
And wasn't it a man that invented oral contraception?
As long as it does not hang out of their bikini, in which case they may get mistaken for Germans.
If a man isn't attractive to a woman, she probably just ignore him. But some men seem to be very provoced, and even aggressive, if something on a woman isn't attrative. I find that rather strange. Why care if a total stranger have shaved armpits or not? It's one thing to notice it and think, well, that's not very attactive and something completly different to go bananas and scream death threats againt women who dont shave and stuff like that, like some men has done.
If you are gonna comment how fat / ugly / lazy / unsexual a person is you need to post a picture of youre self so that you can be judge by everyone else here.
What shocks me reading here is all the guys thinks women should follow their standard on how they should look and if they dont they are useless lesbians ??
You are whats wrong with the world today, i blame our western medicine ways for stifiling the cleansing of the genepool.
lol at shaving your armpits...u are the exact opposite of the whole topic we are discussing.
Men think women should shave their armpits, legs, whatever because society has taught us that is what is sexy....men should have hair under their arms and i would find any man that shaved them to be less than masculine.
I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder eh? If people would live by the old saying 'if you dont have anything nice to say dont say it at all' and mind their own business and stop judging others the world would be alot nicer place to live.
Seriously, who gives a flying crap who shaves what? You sad sad people. Or maybe you're more into little girls than actual women..?
SHE: "Do you want to knit or screw"
Haha, exactly! ;D Too much testosterone and masculinely in a man only makes him a bloody dork and a prat. All the while he himself thinks he's cool, a real "man!". :P Now too much masculinely in a woman only makes it 10 times worse! ;)
Pitigrilli (1893-1975)
so why is it a feminist thing to tell them to stop? i been telling my gf for years to do that ,i dont give a crap about armpit hair its not like if she shaves it ill start kissing its a frigging armpit doesnt matter how much u shave its still not sexy lol
They can do whatever they like to do with their bodies. Period. Hair o no hair, who cares, unless they look like apes. But then, you go to another jungle next to Malmoe to see if there are shaved apes or apes with less hair in their armpits. Problem solved. LOL
@ Grokh I don't think the feminist are telling women to stop shaving. They are telling them to do whatever they want. So they are not doing the same as you, quite the opposite. Let your gf decide herself if she wants to shave or not.
Most women prefer to shave their legs and armpits, but it shouldn't be manditory like it feels like it is today. That people have the choice to eighter shave or expect to be called disgusting, retarded, unhygenic etc. Why do some people get so aggressive over something like this?
Why can't people just let everyone to decide themselves how they want to look?
This all has the feel of a Grange Hill-style protest.
Not only that, but they have forgotten the many women that raped.
deoderant. Friend told me of a waxer who waxes a Muslim's pubic area at the behest of her husband. Oddly enough, I have found some Muslim women to smell sweaty but that could be because they are enshrouded in masses of garments in the heat of Summer.
Feminist woman: "How is it that womens' salary is lower than mens' while performing exactly the same job?"
It differs between apes and women.
*grin*
In the first place, the so-called "feminists" appearing in the photo, do not have a clue about feminism. If some one had conducted a small survey on the spot, it would show that these bunch of ??? would not even know how to spell feminism.
Secondly, let me remind you, that feminists look for the abolition of the institution of marriage and the destruction of the male sex. And thiese two goals, posters, are a fact, not a fantasy.
Gender equality will never be achieved, because feminists will never allow it. They promote hatred amogst genders. As an eye-opener, please read the following feministic "thoughts":
"In order to raise children with equality, we must take them away from families and communally raise them." (Dr. Mary Jo Bane, assistant professor of education at Wellesley College and associate director of the school's Center for Research on Woman)
"The end of the institution of marriage is a necessary condition for the liberation of women. Therefore it is important for us to encourage women to leave their husbands and not to live individually with men... ("The Declaration of Feminism," November 1971).
"Since marriage constitutes slavery for women, it is clear that the women's movement must concentrate on attacking this institution. Freedom for women cannot be won without the abolition of marriage." (Radical feminist leader Sheila Cronan)
"The simple fact is that every woman must be willing to be identified as a lesbian to be fully feminist." ( Sheila Cronan, National NOW Times, Jan.1988)
" "We can't destroy the inequities between men and women until we destroy marriage." - from Sisterhood Is Powerful, Robin Morgan (ed), 1970, p.537.
"All sex, even consensual sex between a married couple, is an act of violence perpetrated against a woman." .... (Catherine MacKinnon - Prominent feminist scholar at the University of Michigan and Yale)
"I want to see a man beaten to a bloody pulp with a high-heel shoved in his mouth, like an apple in the mouth of a pig" .... The cadaver is dressed up and made up and laid down and ritually violated and consecrated to an eternity of being used." .... "Heterosexual intercourse is the pure, formalized expression of contempt for women's bodies." (Andrea Dworkin).
"A woman who has sex with a man, therefore, does so against her will, 'even if she does not feel forced.' Judith Levine
"The male is a domestic animal which, if treated with firmness...can be trained to do most things." Jilly Cooper, SCUM (Society For Cutting Up Men.)
MALE:...represents a variant of or deviation from the category of female. The first males were mutants...the male sex represents a degeneration and deformity of the female. MAN:...an obsolete life form... an ordinary creature who needs to be watched...a contradictory baby-man... From 'A feminist Dictionary; ed. Kramarae and Triechler, Pandora Press, 1985:
This Uber feminism is the future? facepalm
Assange is Right: Sweden's the Saudi Arabia of Feminism
Another eloquent broadside by legendary Swedish radio personality Helene Bergman.
"The original free feminism always took the side of the underdog regardless of sex against the powers that be. The state-sponsored feminism now rearing its ugly head in Sweden can't be called feminism.
"Not when men in our country have been seriously talking about putting their sex lives on the shelf out of fear of being accused of rape. Not when fathers today advise their sons to film their sexual encounters with their cellphones so they don't get busted. Not when the international media are reporting that sexual liberation is being bombed back to the middle ages by the Swedish judicial system.
"I draw the above conclusions after having read through the 207 comments on my previous article with over 14,000 views and with the title 'Feminists in Assange Case Doing Harm to Feminism'.
"That title is more accurate than anyone could have believed. Feminism is not about hating men or using individual men as targets and victims or making men impotent. Or about using female seduction as a weapon against men. We original feminists fought for our sexual liberation so we could enjoy sex, not so we could use it as a weapon of power with the help of the Swedish government.
"To be a feminist is to expose and fight against the power structures that oppress people. Sexual liberation came along with the demand that women be able to provide for themselves and not be economically dependent on men. Things started out so well under Olof Palme's time as prime minister with lower taxation for partners, parental insurance with paid time off for fathers, the massive expansion of the daycare system, and free abortions.
"But it could have stopped there. For the social democrats in control of the government kidnapped feminism, disarmed it, renamed it 'equality', and made it part of their power apparatus. That's a smart way to kill off the free feminism. 'Equality' was exalted to a governmental norm that became a rung on career ladders not in the least in politics, the bureaucracy, and the judicial system. The hitch was it wasn't rooted in the 'movement'. Just remember the notorious felon Göran Lindberg, former police chief in Uppsala and today an intern of the state, with close contacts within the elite of the social democrat party. Göran Lindberg made a career out of being a prophet for 'equality' at the same time he abused women and raped underage girls"
To read more, here is the link:
http://rixstep.com/2/1/20110301,00.shtml
Dizzyness, vertigo, presyncope and/or disequilibrium is affecting you. So you believe in fairness and equality, but as long as there are men out ther thay say and think that they can tell you women what you can and cannot do with your own bodies, there will never be equality?
Lady. We men don't tell you women what to do or how to use your bodies. I guess that you are talking about the feminists, the recalcitrant , rebellious, disobedient; stubborn and unmanageable bunch of lesbians and wanabee lesbians that want to destroy the family, change the governments and erase men for the face of the Earth. You have to be careful with the feminists and the self-appointed feminists, like the ones in the photo here. Those are the danger, with or without hair in ther armpits.
Personally I do not care what women do with their bodies. You want to rent them, be my guest. You want to shave them, be my guest. You want to look like whores by dressing like whores, be my guest.
Do not blame men for not knowing what to do with your body, Mrs. dizzymoe33.
Equality has nothing to do with how women use their bodies or not. Equality has to do with higher things than that. But I will repeat once more what I wrote some posters before:
"In the first place, the so-called "feminists" appearing in the photo, do not have a clue about feminism. If some one had conducted a small survey on the spot, it would show that these bunch of ??? would not even know how to spell feminism.
"Secondly, let me remind you, that feminists look for the abolition of the institution of marriage and the destruction of the male sex. And thiese two goals, posters, are a fact, not a fantasy.
"Gender equality will never be achieved, because feminists will never allow it. They promote hatred amogst genders"
Got it? Or shall we start from scratch.
Shaving your armpits has nothing to do with feminism. No one is forcing women to do it. Women do it of their own free will. If you are in a relationship and your man wants you to shave your armpits, then you have a choice. You can do it or not. If you don't do it and he leaves you, then he made his own choice. He is still not forcing you to do it and no man can. It's kind of ridiculous to say us men have power over your bodies when we don't. The only men that do would be those in congress and even then, they don't represent us men at all. They are just power hungry old timers.
@blondiqt
There is no law saying women have to shave their armpits, so why would we need a law forcing men to shave their balls? I'm a guy and I shave, not for anyone else, but for myself. It's a choice I made. I personally think it's more hygienic and it feels a lot better when I'm wearing boxer briefs.
Nobody force you to live here. Love it or leave it!
To which group do you belong?
I do not like feminism and it has nothing to do neither with Sweden, nor with nationalities.
For the way you wrote, you think that all of those in this thread who are against feminism, are foreigners. Wrong, klubbnika, wrong. They are just men (Swedish and foreigners) who do not want their families to be destroyed by wanabees like you (perhaps you are already one) and the remote possibility that men will be erased from the face of the Earth.
I am being quite polite with you this time, klubbnika. Maybe because I did not sleep well. But one more "super intelligent" comment like the one you wrote, will awake me and then I will show you that 2+2 is 4.
The hairy apes in the picture above are hardly fighting for equal rights between men and women. Their fight is probably something else completely.
The names of all the feminine fundamentalists are, as @rise clearly write, Alice.
Elton John had a lesbian themed song on his Yellow Brick Road album; the song is "All The Girls Love Alice"
Here are the lyrics:
Raised to be a lady by the golden rule
Alice was the spawn of a public school
With a double barrel name in the back of her brain
And a simple case of Mummy-doesn't-love-me blues
Reality it seems was just a dream
She couldn't get it on with the boys on the scene
But what do you expect from a chick who's just sixteen
And hey, hey, hey, you know what I mean
All the young girls love Alice
Tender young Alice they say
Come over and see me
Come over and please me
Alice it's my turn today
All the young girls love Alice
Tender young Alice they say
If I give you my number
Will you promise to call me
Wait till my husband's away
Poor little darling with a chip out of her heart
It's like acting in a movie when you got the wrong part
Getting your kicks in another girl's bed
And it was only last Tuesday they found you in the subway dead
And who could you call your friends down in Soho
One or two middle-aged dykes in a Go-Go
And what do you expect from a sixteen year old yo-yo
And hey, hey, hey, oh don't you know
The Feminists will deny this as a valid reason, but in actual fact, it is the truth, so make sure you take ownership fully while growing your armpit hair!
P.S. I man-scape!!
I dont tell my gf what she should or shouldnt do, i just say its stupid how women think they have to shave legs, armpits etc etc .
nobody cares.
And females armpit hair is usually on display? You mean that they walk with their arms pointing at heaven? Where? Would like to see that. Perhaps I might start doing a research on number of armpits with hair and number of arms without hair. Reasons why they chosed either one of the ways their armpits should look.
Shaven women look like pre-pubescent girls.
Women should be proud of their femininity.
My support and admiration goes out to women all over the world who resist conforming to what society dictates.
Maybe such behaviors also explain why many swedish men keep marrying girls from other countries and prefer them when they want something more than just a one night stand.
Lesbians united? I suggest you to go to Youtube and
search for
SWEDISH LESBIANISM IS WIPING OUT MEN
That, dear poster, is the nearly future of beautiful Sweden.
It is a bad experiment GONE WRONG.