Published: 17 Mar 12 16:10 CET | Print version
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Search teams at the top of Sweden's highest mountain have found the site where a Norwegian Hercules plane crashed on Thursday with five people on board.
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its sad but there is not much else to have happened... or?
At least it wasnt another Cavalese disaster.
Thank god the accident investigation branch is not run by uncaring idiots like you two who's sole expertise in aviation is how to fasten your seat belt.
1. Under normal circumstances, at the place that the aircraft hit, it would of been flying at 25,000 ft not the 6,900ft of the mountain it hit.
2. professional pilots like those in charge of the aircraft do not do stupid fly by of dangerous terrain especially in low visibility.
3. If all systems in the aircraft were operating normally the GPWS ( Ground proximity warning system for you idiots) would have been sqwaking " pull up" long before they hit.
5 brave crew members have lost their lives in this accident. So kindly keep your stupid mouths shut and stop your idiotic posts.
Funny or knowledgeable you are not
wow, u seem like a real charmer to bring to parties.
sure, we are not experts but thats no need to resort to name calling.
the plane should have been flying much higher.
if not, warning signals would have gone off plus they have an altimeter to go by.
there would have to be multiple errors in the plane for them to be flying so low and numerous sites have reported how new and how safe these planes are.
i only offered an opinion as to what i think might have happened. u don't like it or disagree, so be it but don't be a jerk and start calling people idiots. it just makes you look like one yourself.
either way, its a tragic accident and lets hope some answers are given in the near future.
Having done 2 jumps from a C-130 Hercules one normally requires 1,200 ft above ground for a safe parachute jump. Emergencies can call for shorter height. But there would probably have been not enough time to harness-up.
I read about a month ago how some SAAB Gripens ran into trouble in the same geographical region. I can't recall the exact reason, possibly weather but I was wondering if the massive Iron Ore deposits in the Kiruna region could have affected their navigation interference?
They were probably flying purely visually, missed judged the top of the hill or cold between peaks, due to snow/white cloud blurring the real horizon. Those on foot would call it a white out.
Bail out, may day or activate plb, squawk, no chance it would all be over in under a second. Had a similar job with 2 US jet in cairngorms they missed flying over the hill by less than 30feet vertical height.
It could be instrument failure, but quite unlikely. Given my 20 plus years military sår, dozens of military air crashes and a great number of Herc flights, i suspect its a sightseeing trip gone wrong, sad for all concerned, those killed, their families, the rescuers and crash investigators who will have to bag their remains and recover at least key bits of wreckage.
But to rely soley on these systems is the equivalent of driving your car down the e4 trusting the cruise control to get you there. These guys where experienced pilots but mistakes happen (if that was the case) and so does mechanical failure although the J model herc is a very reliable airframe.
I feel for the families of the men and woman whom have lots there lives. Tragic stuff.
1. Maybe, just maybe, they wanted the plane to fly low. Search for flyby on youtube.
2. Yeap, the captain of Costa Concordia was a pro too. But it seems that latelly the ships and planes decide to do stunts that go wrong by themselves.
3. Maybe they were working fine.
boxes and do a full investigation to get all the answers.You can only feel for the families of the lost ones.It is quite possibly pilot errror,but things still can go wrong with very new aircraft aswell.
From cockpit voice recordings and photographs taken by passengers moments before the crash, investigators were able to conclude that the weather was fine at the time, visibility was greater than 40 miles, and Mt Erebus was not shrouded in clouds. The pilots who were flying the aircraft did not see the mountain in front of them. They could see a horizon (albeit probably a false one) and were in clear sight of ground and water beneath them, but could not see Mt Erebus which they were about impact.
This is known as sector whiteout and it was a "major contributing factor" in this controlled flight into terrain (CFIT), according to Human Factors for Aviation, a basic handbook published by Transport Canada. The crew of Air New Zealand Flight 901 lost visual reference to the horizon and surface obstructions even though the prevailing visibility was in excess of 40 miles.
According to the American Meteorological Society, in a whiteout, "Neither shadows, horizon nor clouds are discernible; sense of depth or orientation is lost; only very dark, nearby objects can be seen." The result is plenty of vertigo-inducing, sensor illusions.