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Sweden's foreign minister Carl Bildt got a frosty reception from a pair of foreign journalists in Sarajevo as he attended a commemoration ceremony to mark the outbreak of the Bosnian war 20 years ago.
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He was the first representative to do what?? To get high? Come on, The Local. Pay attention to what you are writing.
Yes - Carl Bildt may have been impotent in preventing what happened - but he wasn't the only one: many UN resolutions which were passed, with regard to 'former Yugoslavia' were equally useless and impotent.
It seems liberals have once again painted the victims as the oppressors.
you are so brutal...
Read your bloody history or just read why we lie by Dorothy Rowe. I was in your country ten years ago, and nobody wanted to move forward. Everybody, like you, treated Milosevic as a hero and you kind of people will never learn.
Your kind of people stuck in the history.
Moreover, what is the point to pulling the discussion to the Muslims. Do you think this stupid manipulation in your comment will clean your bloody hands.
Simple, you did and you have to accept your crime.
You should learn from the conflicts around the world who starts them.
It is a fact that Slobodan Milosevic warned the bosnians. They continued their attacks, the consequences followed.
Strangely enough the lefties were not concerned at the killing of women and children at the hands of bosnians that went on for years befoore the serbs fought back.
Yes Hitler also warned Jews but then he massacred them as your hero did in Balkan! In Germany in 1950s most Germans were very much thinking like you. The main difference is however they accepted their mistakes, they left their racial approach behind and now they are again a developed prominent nation. As long as there are people like you in Balkan, things will never change.
It seems it hurts her own @ss to talk garbage like "we are Europeans" when inglorious french say that to english in one way, to Germans in another way and to russians in third way...
Both Bosnia and Sweden are independent sovereign countries. It's up to Herr Carl Bildt what to do and where to go!
"@kristianj
Yes Hitler also warned Jews but then he massacred them as your hero did in Balkan! "
Khm... Hitler did not warn Jews. Also he killed Jews for being Jews.What you do not read from kristianj is that Milosevic warned the muslims (who invaded the area not so long ago btw...) to stop MURDERING christians.
Get the diff? Should I repeat to the brain washed islamist? Here we go. Hitler killed Jews because they WERE Jews. Milosevic attacked muslims because they KILLED christians. A huge difference.
Read also about Kosovo and how this region that was christian for hundreds of years all of a sudden became an independent muslim country. Interesting story of a cancer eating off a body...
On the other hand the METHODS of Milosevic were not reasonable and overly brutal, with which is hard to argue, kristianj. That is why he got so many years to wage a war, but finally was stopped. Because he was RIGHT, but behaved WRONGLY. It could have been done smoothly, without the use of openly nazi generals and with the request of assistance from Europe for precision weaponry and negotiators. Bosnia and Kosovo would still be a part of Serbia, if he would do it smartly.
........ And then there was "Kristallnacht" in 1938.
Call it bad or good Adolf but he was fighting for the cause of his own country NOT TO BE SMASHED between MALICIOUS British and Russian Empires what was THE REAL CAUSE of WWII and THE SEQUEL of WWI.
German archive says that there were documents and directives encouraging the Jews to leave Germany in 1935/36 as the power in Germany had been taken by the man who hates the Jews - friends of Lucifer in the face of Imperialist Britain and dreadful Soviet Union/Russia.
I wonder why didn't the Jews leave the dangerous Germany between 1933-1938 for Palestine the national home for Jewish people under mandate of the Government of his Brittanic Majesty?
The history of Christianity is only 2000 years and the Christian have converted other nations all over the world since its beginning. If the Christian can do, the Muslim can do the same. Or first you should call the Christian stop doing this…
Your argument is very bizarre when you discuss the conversion of a region from Christianity to Muslim. While your kinds of people pray Darwin, you do not accept simple evaluation in human history. That is history one nation comes the other goes, one religion comes the other goes…
Instead of focusing on too much religion, I suggest to focus on economic and national development. We, Westerners are blindly turning our faces from this truth. The social problems in Western countries are caused politician who are constantly manipulating the real focus. They are hiding that they are incapable to fixing the real problems.
Go and see how China is rising as stars..
As for the "Hitler warning Jews" thing, I recalled having read it in books that some of the Jewish population didn't want to leave the country before it was too late. Despite the happenings such as Kristallnacht, Germany was still considered less hostile to Jews than the other European countries, before Hitler started rounding them up in ghettos and send the helpless masses to death camps. The German army was for instance considered very disciplined, especially more so than the Russians. Any WWII survivor from the east from could tell you how many women the Russian soldiers raped whenever they occupied an enemy territory. During the Russian civil war, the collateral damage on the Russian Jews were severe, some of them even turned to the German military for protection. Once again, this was BEFORE the start of WWII.
To make a hypothetical analogy, this would mean something like SD seized the power in Skåne and starts "encouraging" the immigrants to leave. But they don't, because Skåne still treats immigrants better than Denmark. Then suddenly, the SD in Skåne starts to round up immigrants and do very bad things to them. Hundred years later people might say "oh why didn't the immigrants leave Skåne, were they stupid blablabla". They may say so, but they won't understand the circumstances.
islamists over here suggest that bosnians went through the SAME thing as Jews during WWII. Because apparently both were warned. However one of the 1 million differences is that Jews were warned to stop being Jews and whether run or commit suicide (which was not even a warning, but worsening of conditions), whereas Bosnians were warned to stop with aggression towards the christian Serbs. Some difference eh?
One thing is to warn an old lady who irritates you by her old looks and then shoot her in the head and completely another thing is to warn a bank robber, who took 20 children as hostages and then shoot him in the head. Do I make myself clear now?
Or is it allowed for muslims now whatever christians AND muslims did 1 thousand years a go and not cause retaliation "because crusaders also did it"? Eh, sfk?
I know what I wrote is not related to the topic. Then again, neither are you. We all got dragged into the topic by some of the guys before me.
Anyway, my point is despite the worsening of conditions for the Jews, due to the fact that rest of the Europe wasn't any better, many Jews didn't choose to leave Germany. I'm not here to correlate that event with what happened in Bosnia. Just wanted to point it out.
"To make a hypothetical analogy, this would mean something like SD seized the power in Skåne and starts "encouraging" the immigrants to leave. But they don't, because Skåne still treats immigrants better than Denmark. Then suddenly, the SD in Skåne starts to round up immigrants and do very bad things to them. Hundred years later people might say "oh why didn't the immigrants leave Skåne, were they stupid blablabla". They may say so, but they won't understand the circumstances. "
Ha ha ha! Well said and grounded! You must know the nature of immigrants in that case. If the immigrants are Arabs, Africans, Pakistani, Turks, Balkan folks and Russians they will move on smoothly and without any stipulations. However, if they are Jews, Armenians or on some occasions English you will not fend off intrigues, provocations and usurpation!