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A farmer in western Sweden recently shot a bear dead after it attacked his cattle for the second time in one week.
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They are not truthful and feel the 'end justifies the means'.
Why won't the authorities step in?
There are many non-lethal deterrents and weapons that work just fine for making sure the bear doesn't come back.
**** farmers and their self-rightous gunwielding!
1. Consumers wan't free range cattle and dairystock to have a healthy life. So, the farmers need more land than high intensity cattle farms in the USA for example. Which is a good thing since in the US the quality of meat in terms of the concentrations of antibiotics and questionable nutritional value from corn feed is a major health concern.
2. The increased land needed to raise livestock in Sweden combined with the health requirements makes pig farming noncompetitive compared to German and Danish farmers so those Swedish farmers are taking a hit. Don't know how it is for cattle. However, lets assume cattle and dairy farmers margins are also tight...as their is a known push to increase the number of dairy cattle per farmer in Sweden to 100 or so I believe.
3. The farmer cannot afford to lose his heard. In Norway, the farmers are compensated for livestock slaughtered by predators, but this compensation has lead in some cases to sheep being killed by "fake wolves" in order to claim the government compensation.
4. One food calorie of beef requires about 75 calories of fossil fuel to produce whereas, soybeans take 1 calorie of fossil fuel to produce. More meat means more land, meat industry people will say, convert more marginal land to pasture land, however, that only reduces the fossil fuel calories by half, and then leaves the farmer with the challenge of more time spent herding and more fences in a business already ran on tight margins.
Living a vegetarian or vegan lifestyle solves most of these problems but most people are not willing to give up meat or dairy so these issues are only likely to increase rather than decrease, for centuries people thought that bathing was bad for one's health, and had no understanding of sanitation as we do now. We can't expect even supposedly modern people to make rational decisions....Edward Bernay's work in PR exemplifies most of us are irrational in our decision making.
The only logical thing to do then is to round up the maxbrando's tranatos, and bramblebush of the world who only stir the sh*t rather than find a place to dispose of it properly and hunt them down to extinction. Thereby, we would satisfy the needs of the carnivore/hunter part of the reasonable and sensible population and the vegetarian vegan as well. LOL.
Farmers margins are tight for all animals, lamb has had a recent boom, but a little better. Cattle depending on the breed a farmer will receive between 40ore and 1kr carcass weight (on average), cattle farming in Sweden isn't like the USA or the Danish pig market, cattle almost always get out Spring to Autumn, many get a winter walk, for better health.
Where do you get your 75calories of fossil fuel from for 1 of beef? Our cows, eat our own hay with no additional feed or heating when inside in winter. So they are almost carbon neutral. Carbon goes to the grass, to hay, to beef (and manure), then back into the circle via us. We do have to use some fuel to cut the hay, but without cutting the fields, the forest would soon take them over and keeping fields clear is a national requirement in Sweden, so it's hardly a carbon cost that can be attributed only to the cattle.
I see your point on cutting the fields, however, the grains are turned into calories much more efficiently if being made into flour or soy products rather than being fed to cattle so right there is an increased fuel cost due to harvesting 3 or 4 times the surface area with a tractor to reach the same food calories.
Meat needs to be stored at a lower temperature than grain...refrigeration uses more fuel than storing most grain products at the air temperature level.
Now, if you are not using grain feed, which is "imported" to your farm lowers the fuel cost considerably. 75 is an American grain fed number assuming a shipping cost of the grain to the livestock and the average lifestock shipping distance to market. In Sweden that distance is probably less in most cases...so, 75 may be a high number but it is still at least of an order of magnitude or two higher in fuel calorie consumption to food calorie production simply due to the questions and explanations provided above....refining it down to a closer estimation would be based on your response. In any case, thanks for your interest.
We don't buy in grains, cows little entirely on their own grazing and are not finished on any product. We only cut hay once per year, this is Sweden not europe or the US, it just doesn't grow that quick. A quarter of our fields are classed a national significant(due to plant life and bio-diversity) and we have to hand scythe them every year. If we never, the Swedish state would pay some to do it.
The abbatoir and processing plant are combined and are 15km away, which is the only driven journey the stock take. All our fields radiate around the farm, the furthest being less than 1/2km away. We don't bail the hay, it is just spun into rows, and then picked up be reversing up the lanes with a rake on the back. Hand thrown on further, then hand thrown into the barn. In winter the hay is just shove or thrown down from the loft to the cows, the tractor is redundant for 4-5months in winter as far as the cows are concerned. Bedding is our own straw from oats, which are used to feed the hens for a whole year.
So I would say our fuel miles are as low as practically possible. Whilst we accept many modern inventions, our farm is probably as environmentally friendly as cattle production could realistically become.
What stores does your beef end up in (Chain retail stores such as COOP)?
Is your beef classified as Organic? If not why?
What antibiotic regimen do the cattle receive? How long before slaughter do they have to wait from the last antibiotics are issued.
Impressed how different your animal husbandry practices are as compared to factory farming in the US.
In any case keep up the good work.
If you can't get deterrents for cheaper than it would raise your cost of farming to the point where you have to charge 50% more per kg of meat, you're not doing your research.
Your challenge is you tend to just outright insult people by judging them. Secondly, you fail to educate skogsbo in any meaningful way to actually help him to protect bears with something other than guns. So, with those two moves you have really shut the door on any chance at meaningful dialogue and painted yourself in the light of being a troll, or a reactionary, or just someone in a bad mood...rather than someone who actually cares about bears or the challenges of farmers, or really anything other than stroking your own, apparently, shallow ego by attacking others. ;-)
Trenatos, no bears where I am, so I don't need to weild any gun. I will leave you to carry out the research on fencing costs, I would suggest a modest 30kr per metre materials, so that's a minimum 12000kr(plus labour) for a fenced in hectare, which on poor northern grazing would have a stocking rate of 1 cow, give the fence life of 5 years before repair and maintence, gives a cost of 2400kr plus labour per year. A cow could have a carcass weight of between say 300-500kg, getting between 3kr and 10kr per kg, you'll see the margins are narrow. Electric fences need to be less substantial, but have greater intial outlay and obviously the continuous power cost. Trust me, if they are cheap ways of doing something, a farmer will already know it.
Trenatos, as you are clearly not that clued up, I'll await your suggestions. But at the end of the day, a bear was causing his animals suffering, he solved the problem painlessly for the bear. If you are that concerned for animal welfare, don't eat chicken(worst living conditions of any food chain animal) and look around where you life, I bet there are dozens of cats and dogs suffering far more in the hands of your neighbours, all going unnoticed.
Interesting to hear that what you sell organic beef for does not gain your a profit but it does those up the distribution chain, is that true?
Best of luck with your farm!