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As Greenpeace activists' fight to prevent further oil exploration in the Arctic hits Swedish waters, foreign minister Carl Bildt argues that a general ban on drilling in the Arctic would be "irresponsible".
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Picking up sticks and stones to throw is still OK.
wouldnt irresponsibility come from the fact that by continuing to use oil the more we will polute and the more sick people will get , without even talking about climate change...
Isnt the irresponsible thing to do is let shell rape another place with oil spills like they have done in so many places in the past?
irresponsibility is letting someone like bildt open his mouth , all he says is bullsht
Let's consider the following alternatives:
1. We can have a world with a pristine natural environment that is sparsely populated by enlightened human beings who value the pristine natural environment above all, but getting to that state will require the impovrishment, starvation and death of 7 billion human beings, or
2. We can have a world with a pristine natural environment in the wilderness and altered environments where the 7 billion humans live, free of forced poverty, famine and incomprehensible regulations that put their natural resources off limits.
Anyone who chooses the first option should be seen for what he is - anti-human and a potential mass murderer. This is not a reductio ad absurdum argument; fanatical environmentalists have actually proposed measures to control human reproduction, ban all carbon energy extraction, ban all carbon energy use, and ban ordinary people from enjoying the wilderness.
Absolutely correct, they want to bulldozer anything industrial to the ground and "give it back to nature". The bigger problem is that some of these fanatics actually have very high positions among certain governments and the UN.
And yes, population reduction also is something they indeed follow. Through "soft-kill" and vaccines that can be done very much "between the lines".
Aside of that, Bildt too is not much more than a tall and fugly CIA puppet with a horrible accent.
no one lives near the drilling platforms of the gulf of mexico but when the oil started spilling not only it affected people but several species of fish and their reproductive cycles.
it is not environmentally extreme to not poop where you eat.
all you people thinking that any logical evaluation of something that affects the environment is extreme should really stop watching conspiracy theories.
i for once love eating meat , fish etc, i just dont like it with lead, mercury or extinct , and within all this extremety i also like to breathe air that wont give me cancer.
Such an extremist i must be -_-x
every other place on the planet has been drilled, mined etc and there have always been accidents which have a larger impact on the surrounding area.
bildt has it backwards. it would be irresponsible to allow drilling in these areas. period.
IF there were better laws holding companies responsible for damages they cause or laws saying 'u can dig, drill or mine, but put it back the way u found it' then it might be ok but accidents still happen and then the finger pointing starts and companies go to trial, meanwhile, animals die and people get poisoned or don't get compensation for damages done.
oil is no longer the only energy solution. put money and effort into alternatives instead.
haven't we crapped on this planet enough?
Agree! The problem with most of us people is that we justify one extreme by saying it will cure another.No extremes work, they just exacerbate the matter even more. NEW ideas are needed, not just the old arguments which never get anywhere because most have no foot to stand on aside from fanaticism. Drilling in the ocean ANYWHERE is a bad idea. Unlesss you are drilling for core samples or something non-polluting. There are such things called tides people, which know no political or any other kinds of boundaries. Greenpeace started off with a good idea, but have since just joined the ranks of the fanatics so they no longer have my sympathies. They're about as bad as the greedy, money-hungry other fanatics who don't mind destroying the planet as long as they can "go out in luxury".
Are the moaners also prepared to leave 33% in poverty/starvation etc. whilst they sit at their laptop, in their heated house, next to their fully stocked fridge/freezer telling everyone to stop destroying the world? We've had our cake, but doesn't that mean other can't? Careful management and strict enforcement of regulations is the key, not simply a no go area. Fines to such a high level that an oil or mining company would be out of business if they broke them, is a fair deterrent.
while it is true that people are stupid enough to rather see unstable climate than to pay the real price of things, it is also very negative to think that human race, no mater how retarded it is, cannot adapt to such changes.
if oil was to finish tomorrow, i wouldnt give a week before new and clean fuel would pop up right away.
what stops this progress is the money/power behind oil.
If a new fuel appeared tomorrow, it would be useless, as every diesel and petrol engine would need converting to run on it.
The human race can and will adapt to climate change, there will be starvation for many, wars over water and food for others. But, overall the human race will survive. It might be pretty grim 200years whilst the global population settles down into a new heirachy though.