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A school in southern Sweden told a female student to "tone down" her homosexuality as a remedy to bullying from other students for being gay, prompting the girl to report the school for discrimination.
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However, I know that I may be out of line here, but expecting the kids to accept whatever outlook and behaviour (or rather what people DO and not ARE) as one pleases is quite naive.
As shocking and unbelievable as it may sound, 16 y/o are not exactly the most tolerant society in the world. If one decides to display ones love to cats by wearing solely cat related apparel in the school, one would take a calculated risk.
The same goes for obvious gays (emos, goths, satanists, punks etc) who are coming to school in obvious unusual apparel or "butch" for girls or dragqueen for guys outlook. As I understood, nobody tells her whom to love. The bullying is coming from the outlook and behaviour that is known to many.
Also and I this is my PERSONAL experience, "butch" girls are often on "defense" and often their handling of ridicule is aggressive and boyish. This in turn gives them the honour of "if you look like a duck and walk like a duck - you are a duck". Like this fractures happen, since BOYS like to award each other with fractures.
I am not saying that this was the case here, since there is no info whatsoever, but the events that I described are not exactly imaginary.
Excellent point.
The student needs to stop flaunting her sexuality and focus on studying.
What that means is that any individual can be as "odd" as he or she likes and not be the victim of bullying. So what or how she behaves is irrelevant. Bullies normally act out based on their own insecurities, so the only true wrong-doers are the school for failing to fulfill their duties according to the rules they must adhere to.
You have it exactly right.
Good point in regards to the fact that the criticism here is towards the school and not the bullies. Juridically you are absolutely correct. Unfortunately the law is not exactly the reflection of reality.
I am sure that the LAW in Iraq is specifying that your freedom of expression is sacred. However when you are a guy walking down the main street of Baghdad, wrapped in an american flag, while hugging another guy and dragging the Koran behind you on a thread, there is a tiny chance that your IQ is not sufficient enough to understand that while protected by the law, your life insurance agent may not be inclined to renew your contract at that very moment.
Now apply that extreme example to the realities of a high school. You have NO idea whether this girl was in fact aggressive. You have no idea under which circumstances she was attacked.
You do not know whether her male-like behaviour made her taste from the male life for a while, which caused her to run to the authorities like a chicken, where a guy would just swallow the defeat. Me neither.
The only fact is that she was in a fight with another GIRL and lost. However the fact that someone in the school mentioned that she should "tone down her sexuality" and that "she provoked" the attacker brings one to some (perhaps erroneous) conclusions.
thats why they get negative and even agressive reactions .i know some gays who are discreet and everybody goes well with them
even i have heard from one of them that these exibicionist are not good for them just because of what has just happened .they even say thay are quiet because they have their own meeting places restaurants and clubs
of course if you have little kids you dont want this people inyecting their ideas on our childrens minds
kids absorb like sponges is different if they have 18 or 20 years old then they are allready done
I hope DO throws the book at the school and specifically whomever is responsible for such an absurd and hateful response attempting to allay blame on the victim.
The school has a responsibility to protect the students from sexual predictors. In this case it seems the school was lacking and the other students took action against the offender themselves.
You are gay, bravo for you. You are a teen and were once in school. The other students are in school to learn and to get good grades so that they can advance. They could care less about your sexual preferences & activities. Save it all up and march in the parade in Stockholm once a year where others like you feel compelled to disclose their sexual activities on the public streets. Keep your crap out of the classroom.
Being gay is not an excuse to do whatever you want and that evey´body must puyup with their antisocial behaviour,
Maybe she got what she deserve
A homosexual woman is a woman who prefers the intimate company of men, if she prefers women she is heterosexual
A homosexual man is a man who prefers the the intimate company of men, if he prefers women he is heterosexual.
Got that, Local?
The school did not follow any protocol and their action needs to be reviewed.
It's true, in many cases in Swedish schools the victim ends up further victimized rather than the offenders being dealt with (Such as transferring to other schools).
There are further issues with this, IT'S ILLEGAL in Sweden to threaten others, and cases such as this should be taken to the police and the offender should be expelled from the school.
What?, I genuinely can't tell if you're being obtuse or just really dumb.
Homo means the same so it is male-male or female-female is homosexual So therefore You got it Wrong!
really! one should not flaunt your sexuality at all no matter what your preference is ! Heterosexual people don't make a big song and dance so homosexuals should do like them and shut the fork up.
this is what makes me sick of them, if they just quietly did their thing and kept to themselves without a fuss then they would not get smacked up nearly so much.
the school got it right ! the girl is there to learn and it seems she was taught a lesson so maybe one could hope she learns ! Something.
This is not only bullying, but also assault (threat of bodily harm) AND battery (actual bodily harm). Those of you who think that she somehow "deserved" it for whatever reason are part of the problem... Grow up!
"I hope DO throws the book at the school and specifically whomever is responsible for such an absurd and hateful response attempting to allay blame on the victim."
I am sorry, such juridically developed person as you surely does not suggest that expressing a personal opinion in regards to the persons behaviour may or should be defined as "absurd and hateful"?
A kid who comes with viking horns stuck to his head into the classroom may expect a LEGALLY and MORALLY correct rebuff from the school administration as a butch and aggressive lesbian, who behaves like an irritated polish truck driver??? Do you observe any LEGAL difference?
The fact that she displays her sexuality shall not be different from declaring one following the Papua tribes religion and traditions and coming to the school looking like this:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1560483/Cannibal-tribe-apologises-for-eating-Methodists.html
Expecting that the law would forbid the school administration to express an opinion (subjectively "hateful" or not) in regards to this, is a juridical absurd. Hope that you understand this simple reality.
I'm actually pretty disgusted by the people who have commented here. Everyone has the right to love another human being exclusing children of course without being bullied or worse as you can see in several countries.
This is a 16 year old girl who was hit in the head and got skull damage from it
Actually as the saying goes. "One doth protest to much" makes you wonder about the people who are vehemently against homosexuals showing thier love through kissing or such like in public. Are you afraid that your true feelings will show?
also Da Goat
"really! one should not flaunt your sexuality at all no matter what your preference is ! Heterosexual people don't make a big song and dance so homosexuals should do like them and shut the fork up."
Oh so the straight couples on the street who are cuddling and sticking thier tongues down each others throughts aren't flaunting thier straightness?
Her unruling macho bully behaviour was the problem for what i understand
Olga and Kalyissa. If the case was that she was standing on a side kissing a girl and all of a sudden got surrounded by KKK and beaten to half death, I would agree. But listen to robban. You have NO IDEA what circumstances the injury happened.
Your blame is as valid as a statement that a guy who is talking to a girl in a bar and got beaten - is beaten BECAUSE of his heterosexuality.
You do not know why this girl got in a fight with another GIRL. You have no idea whether the fight was initiated by the lesbian. You have no idea about anything here, but you start burning bras JUST because the victim was lesbian.
You would not jump to a defense of a guy, who is displaying his heterosexuality in this sleezy and aggressive way that you surely experienced in the past. But apparently getting a fracture WHILE being lesbian clears one from any responsibility without any regard to circumstances...
was this person acting in a extremely weird manner at school and intimidating others or maybe getting in 'everyones face' about being gay?
the fact that teachers told the student to 'tone down the gayness' sounds like the student was crossing the line.
When that fails explosive over-reaction can become an attractive option. That is what happened at Columbine High School in Colorado, US in 1999.
Some students never learn not to play with vipers, and the teachers don't give that lecture.
Every student has a right to be as expressive and individualistic as he or she would like to be without harassment and threats. It's a fundamental right supported by the guidelines the school is required to uphold. Their failure is the issue.
If (and that's a big IF) this teen was genuinely "flaunting" her sexuality in an otherwise socially oppressive atmosphere (i.e. high school), a dedicated nonbiased educator would recognize this as a huge red flag and would find out why, help (not repress) her if needed, and use this as a teachable moment to educate the students, faculty and administration about inclusion
That is where you are not answering. IS it in fact the case?
Can a kid come painted as a masai instead of clothing and expect full support from the school? Can a kid wear a Nazi uniform as an expression of his opinions and get a full support from his school? Can one come dressed as Jesus having only a garment and a cross for clothing?
In regards to bullying. What facts do you know? Practically nothing.
Just an example. An acquaintance of mine who is a school teacher has a kid in a school, who is not only physically bullying the kids, he was even caught sexually assaulting a 7 y/o girl.
The social services with his parents turned everything against the teachers, since apparently HE is the victim. HE had no friends and HE is the one isolated (in fact the corridor was emptying, when he came out, since he was attacking every kid standing in his way). Apparently the isolated little boy had no choice, but to resort to physical and sexual violence and the teachers did not see this as a cry for help from a desperate tortured soul.
When an administrator was informing the teachers of their "insensitive behavior towards a victim", the "victim" was standing behind him, smiling and showing the finger to the teachers.
This is how things are done in Sweden and this is why one should be skeptical towards stories such as this.
You don't actually know whether I am male or female. Again, you made an inference because of my username.
I have always, and will always defend people who are assaulted because of what they look like, who they love, what religion they practice or where they come from because I am a human being.
Stop trying to make this a sexist issue, the only sexist here is you.
"There is no evidence presented in the article that suggests that she "flaunted" anything."
Mmm. No evidence? How about a hint?
"Teachers at the school were unhelpful when she raised the matter with them, telling the girl to "tone down" her sexuality as other students were "confused and scared" by it"
If SWEDISH teachers (who are arguably the most politically correct people in the world) mention that to her, does it not provide a HINT in regards to her behaviour?
As for the gender - what does it even matter what I think about you? Why the defense? Call me Elisabeth if you would like. Lizzy is even better. If one calls oneself "Olga" one SHOULD EXPECT that people would assume that one is a female and if you are not - WHAT does it matter?
Finally, you have no idea whether she was assaulted. As you have correctly pointed out, you have no idea about anything here. Neither do I. Perhaps SHE assaulted the other girl and got her behind whipped. Also, who said that the fight happened BECAUSE of who she loves? Do you know if she did not verbally assault the "aggressor"? Do you know if she was assaulted because she was aggressive? You have no idea whatsoever.
So stop whining. It is clear without the username what gender you belong to. I can hear your high-pitch hysterical voice, lacking any reason through the internet.
"Uncle, My, my this does have you hysterical, doesn't it? "
Olga, my good buddy, my pal... So I wrote that I hear hysterical voice of yours and your sharp rebuff is that I am hysterical? Man, you got me there. You crushed me with your sharp as a razor sarcasm. I am shot and laying dead at your feet.
FYI, this is not hate. This is ridicule. My man, Olya, this how it feels when someone makes fun of your logical or rather illogical attempt to argue.
But no, you are right. It must be my mothers fault.
It has been my experience that the copywriters and activists at thelocal.se are unreliable in their English translations of the TT news service and local Swedish Newspapers. I tried to search for established Swedish News sources briefly and was unable to find any other source than thelocal.se regarding the "Teenage Lesbian bully who had her butt kicked in by fellow students who were fed up with her sexual campaign of terror in the classroom".
Do you have any reliable sources that can shed light on this? -Paul
You are so right. I Swedish high school is no place for sexual predictors and the school was so right to condemn her unwanted sexual campaign of tyranny against her fellow students. Schools must be maintained as a place of learning. Yes, the police should be brought in and the various activist organizations consisting of adults who prey on these young children should be called into question and prosecuted to the full extent of the law. It is reprehensible that children even in daycare are used as pawns by manipulative sexually motivated adults for the sole purpose of exploiting the young bodies of children and advancing their political goal.
Don't we call that Stockholm?
LOL, "sexual campaign of tyranny"?
Hilarious.