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Sundborn, 'sambos' - so probably not middle-eastern culture. Sorry, no hate-crime here, just small-village crazyness.
Crazy idiots like you are exactly why identities are not reported when no verdict has been handed down. Go spread your misinformation among your rumor-mongering friends and family. I am sure they will pat you on the back for it.
The one thing in common in all of these hate/honour/dishonour crimes is males killing women. Men, stop killing women!
@grymagnusson
That is not true. Women and youngsters commit honorkillings too and male youngsters are victims in honorkillings too. So with your perspective, maybe all it should say in the paper is "someone did something to someone and someone might have died, either as a result of what someone did, or not as a result"
Imho, your perspective is inane. Ethinicites do exist. Cultures exist. They do matter to people and they do shape behaviour.
If you had any clue what you were talking about you would know as jostein mentioned that older female relatives are very often aggressively active accomplices in honor killings.
Get a clue.
It is funny how you are always so keen to categorize, except when the identified group is one to which you both belong.
The stats however do not contradict themselves:
http://www.kriminalvarden.se/sv/Statistik/Valdsbrott/
Most men do not commit violent crimes, but most violent crimes are committed by men.
What is it in male culture that can explain this situation? How can we help these men to become integrated into mainstream Swedish culture?
I have absolutely no problem with the category "male". It will explain and predict behaviour. Just as the group Arab male. High income earner. High education. Illiterate. Psychiatric diagnosis. Unemployed. Previously convicted. Muslim. Etcetera. In order to understand the world it is necessary to categorize. In your post you appear to wish to destroy categorization. Which is an attempt to destroy and prevent knowledge.
"What is it in male culture that can explain this situation? How can we help these men to become integrated into mainstream Swedish culture? "
Males large overrepresentation in criminal behaviour and violence is not cultural, its genetic. Which You would already know if You had a modicum of education. As it is You are left huddling in the corner of ignorance together with the extreme christian right and other religious fanatics that reject the theory of evolution.
"My body has a penis, but I choose dialogue over my fists - ain't I a man?"
You don't need to be a Christian right creationist to see that of course there are cultural and social factors to the overwhelming male dominance of the violent crime stats.
The gender bias in violent crime transcends ALL other categories. But bring this up and out come the insults.
"How does the "theory of evolution" or "genetics" explain that the vast majority of males DO NOT commit violent crimes?"
Im really not here to repair your disgrace of an education. You obviously dont understand as much about the theory of evolution as any 15 year old in western society. Thats not my fault.
"The gender bias in violent crime transcends ALL other categories. But bring this up and out come the insults. "
Noone is disputing this. However, what i am disputing is that you want to stop the discussion there. You do not seek knowledge, you seek to stop knowledge. I say, bring on the statistics. Keep statistics of all infiormataion about crimes and criminals in all possible aspects. And by all means, keep every possible statistic that is cheaply available in non criminal endeavors as well. And make them public. And let people learn what they will from them. You on the other hand wish to hide such things. You seek to destroy klnowledge.
When we have knowledge we can make informed descicions.
I understand you are a little slow but no one is saying women are committing the bulk of violent crimes.
I was saying that in the case of honor killings, older female relatives are disturbingly involved as accomplices.
Which is very unusual compared to normal male on female violence..
Thanks for helping make my point.
They are not interested in finding the truth and have stopped asking the questions. They seek evidence only to support their preconceived conclusions and ignore everything that does not conform with their world view.
Publishing stats according to race would not ease this situation it would only exaggerate it. Breivik is a lone crazy killer, Taimour Abdulwahab is an Islamic terrorist - both set out to kill.
@jostein by adopting the language of the playground bully, you are hardly displaying any academic credentials.
Well, howcome i shouldd be forced to explain basic knowledge every time i debate? Stuff that any normal person should have learned in school a long long time ago? Take grymagnussons ludicrous assertion that the difference in violent behaviour between men and women can be explained with nurture arguments? Its preposterous. And it destroys any possibility for normal debate or discussion. I simply demand that someone who wishes to debate has at least some basic knowledge about the world? grymagnusson deserves to be bullied out of the discussion and shame on you for not helping.
As for the rest of your post. If you were a democrat you would wish information of all sort to be freely available to all citizens. How else can they make an informed descicion when they vote? Why should origin be exempt from statistics? Any more than socioeconomic status or age? YOU are the one having a problem with race. I mean, if you are afraid of information about the world, maybe noone should really value your opinion? I mean, if you dont want it to be based on reality you either base it on ideology or wishful thinking? After all, your argument is "hide truths to manipulate the populace", or is it something im not getting?
Your difficulty in reading and understanding English is again apparent. My goodness, your so touchy. You need to relax and try to understand things before you jump to conclusions. Good reporting clarifies the news and prevents misunderstandings. Withholding information causes misunderstandings.A man has been arrested and charged with attempted murder, apparently based on information from witnesses. Doesn't the public have a right to know who he is? Failing to give complete information only serves the purposes of those with specific agendas.
Whenever someone is charged with a crime in a free society they almost always release their name in an open court.
If there is a gag order in this particular case, i would be very curious as to the reason, as there doesn't appear on the face to be anything exceptional with this one.
I mean, its not about academia. Its about having BASIC FRIGGIN SCHOOLING. Ok? Understand the problem? When people who do not even have basic schooling, BASIC. When they freely enter a debate with moderatlely educated people all the effort, all the words. all the thoughts. all the debate will gravitate towards bringing these creits up to some jot above their natural state of ignorance. And in a country such as sweden with NINE YEARS of absolutely free and absolutely mandatory schooling, any such ignorance is SELFCHOOSEN. It is an utter waste of time. And these people are choosing to sabotage debates.
Like, i know i suck at mathematics. I cannot even deal with basic triginomitry or sinus or cosinus. Im pathetically shamefully ignorant about things a normal person should know. So, i AVOID ENTERING MATHEMATICHAL DEBATES. If i did, i would bore every normally educated person to death with my ignorance and everybody would have spend lots and lots of time explainging the absolute fundamentals to me. And this grymagnusson is even worse than i would be in a discussion about mathematichs because on top of being shamefully ignorant she is opinionated. We cannot give this sortof behaviour any leeway. Because its pure and sheer destruction. It is antiknowledge. Sabotage.
like I said, there is definitely something you are not getting.