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Man held for setting former partner on fire

Published: 30 Jul 12 08:50 CET | Print version
Online: http://www.thelocal.se/42306/20120730/

A man in Dalarna in central Sweden has been detained for pouring petrol over his former partner and setting her alight after she told him that she had met a new partner.

"We have detained a man for attempted murder with an alternative charge of aggravated assault," said Kent Lind at Dalarna police to the Aftonbladet daily.

The woman is reported to have gone home to her former partner on Saturday evening to leave their 5-year-old daughter and to inform him that she had begun a new relationship.

According to information from several family members, the man became angry, poured petrol over her and set her alight.

The woman sustained severe burns in the attack and is currently in the care of Linköping University Hospital.

According to information obtained by the newspaper the woman is very badly hurt and will be keep in a drug-induced coma for an extended period of time.

The former couple's five-year-old daughter is thought to have witnessed the attack.

The man was detained by police after the attack and was on Sunday formally arrested on suspicion of attempted murder with an alternative charge of aggravated assault.

Dalarna police were unwilling on Sunday to divulge further details of the case confirming only that a man had been arrested and that those involved had previously been in a relationship.

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09:33 July 30, 2012 by Borilla
This is not a news story. Exactly what have we learned about the incident or those involved, except that it happened?. One would suspect that this stems in part from a refusal to inform the public on the part of the authorities and also from laziness on the part of the Swedish newspapers from which the Local obtains its info and on the part of the Local itself. Why investigate and report when you can take the pap from a police PR spokesman and go for fika? Whatever happened to those time honored news criteria: Who? What? Where? and When? A man set a woman on fire. That is clearly known. Why not tell us who did it? I hate to sound like one of those ignorant SD's but it looks like another attempt to prevent the public from knowing that this is an "honor" crime.
10:50 July 30, 2012 by Mxzf
For all the rumours: https://www.flashback.org/t1927021

Sundborn, 'sambos' - so probably not middle-eastern culture. Sorry, no hate-crime here, just small-village crazyness.
11:10 July 30, 2012 by Swedish Cat
Wow, just insane. Hope he serves a long time in prison
12:41 July 30, 2012 by StockholmSam
@Borilla

Crazy idiots like you are exactly why identities are not reported when no verdict has been handed down. Go spread your misinformation among your rumor-mongering friends and family. I am sure they will pat you on the back for it.
12:42 July 30, 2012 by grymagnusson
Black, white, brown, blue, green, red, yellow - no difference.

The one thing in common in all of these hate/honour/dishonour crimes is males killing women. Men, stop killing women!
13:05 July 30, 2012 by jostein
Alot of things in this case make it probably that the scumbag perp is a swede. Which makes the header of the local perverse when compared to the spouse knifing where the locals header was "swedish man.." when the scumbag perp in that case was ethiopian (what is known through the rumourmill so far). Anyone who do not think the press has a warped perspective and hidden agenda would do well to mull on these two headers for awhile. Swede turned into man. Ethiopian turned into swede.

@grymagnusson

That is not true. Women and youngsters commit honorkillings too and male youngsters are victims in honorkillings too. So with your perspective, maybe all it should say in the paper is "someone did something to someone and someone might have died, either as a result of what someone did, or not as a result"

Imho, your perspective is inane. Ethinicites do exist. Cultures exist. They do matter to people and they do shape behaviour.
13:17 July 30, 2012 by godnatt
@grymagnusson

If you had any clue what you were talking about you would know as jostein mentioned that older female relatives are very often aggressively active accomplices in honor killings.

Get a clue.
13:33 July 30, 2012 by grymagnusson
@jostein, @godnatt

It is funny how you are always so keen to categorize, except when the identified group is one to which you both belong.

The stats however do not contradict themselves:

http://www.kriminalvarden.se/sv/Statistik/Valdsbrott/

Most men do not commit violent crimes, but most violent crimes are committed by men.

What is it in male culture that can explain this situation? How can we help these men to become integrated into mainstream Swedish culture?
13:35 July 30, 2012 by Svensksmith
There is no honor in an honor killing.
13:50 July 30, 2012 by jostein
@grymagnusson

I have absolutely no problem with the category "male". It will explain and predict behaviour. Just as the group Arab male. High income earner. High education. Illiterate. Psychiatric diagnosis. Unemployed. Previously convicted. Muslim. Etcetera. In order to understand the world it is necessary to categorize. In your post you appear to wish to destroy categorization. Which is an attempt to destroy and prevent knowledge.

"What is it in male culture that can explain this situation? How can we help these men to become integrated into mainstream Swedish culture? "

Males large overrepresentation in criminal behaviour and violence is not cultural, its genetic. Which You would already know if You had a modicum of education. As it is You are left huddling in the corner of ignorance together with the extreme christian right and other religious fanatics that reject the theory of evolution.
14:14 July 30, 2012 by grymagnusson
How does the "theory of evolution" or "genetics" explain that the vast majority of males DO NOT commit violent crimes?

"My body has a penis, but I choose dialogue over my fists - ain't I a man?"

You don't need to be a Christian right creationist to see that of course there are cultural and social factors to the overwhelming male dominance of the violent crime stats.

The gender bias in violent crime transcends ALL other categories. But bring this up and out come the insults.
14:50 July 30, 2012 by Just saying...
Just an observation. There is a clearly defined group on this forum who pop up in idignant but ignorant rage whenever there is a crime they can stick 'honour' in front of or try to attribute to someone whose background they do not like. Within this group I presume there are two subsets: those who know that they are attempting to stir up prejudice under the guise of some form of moral crusade. The other subset are those who are too blind to see beyond their own rage. These people are significantly quiet about the numerous crimes that cannot be ascribed to groups that they don't like. Electronic tumbleweed blows through the comments boxes under these reports. The effect is simple an 'accessability cascade'. You read with indignation about the horrors inflicted by individual members of groups you distrust...because those are the ones you highlight. What it does not suit you to see, does not register and your prejudice is confrimed. Well done..a true slieght of critical faculties. Meanwhile, while a nasty crime is committed sporadically by someone whose profile makes you nervous - you conveniently don't notice the million plus civilians killed in an occupation by us white Christians in a country that has never come anywhere near us. That takes a special kind of mind. Not a large one...but a special one.
18:20 July 30, 2012 by jostein
@grymagnusson

"How does the "theory of evolution" or "genetics" explain that the vast majority of males DO NOT commit violent crimes?"

Im really not here to repair your disgrace of an education. You obviously dont understand as much about the theory of evolution as any 15 year old in western society. Thats not my fault.

"The gender bias in violent crime transcends ALL other categories. But bring this up and out come the insults. "

Noone is disputing this. However, what i am disputing is that you want to stop the discussion there. You do not seek knowledge, you seek to stop knowledge. I say, bring on the statistics. Keep statistics of all infiormataion about crimes and criminals in all possible aspects. And by all means, keep every possible statistic that is cheaply available in non criminal endeavors as well. And make them public. And let people learn what they will from them. You on the other hand wish to hide such things. You seek to destroy klnowledge.

When we have knowledge we can make informed descicions.
19:05 July 30, 2012 by Swedishmyth
He'll get a couple of years. The Swedish legal system has endless love for the guilty. Only crimes against God (i.e. government) are pursued with the vigor one would expect of a system of justice.
23:19 July 30, 2012 by godnatt
@grymagnusson

I understand you are a little slow but no one is saying women are committing the bulk of violent crimes.

I was saying that in the case of honor killings, older female relatives are disturbingly involved as accomplices.

Which is very unusual compared to normal male on female violence..

Thanks for helping make my point.
10:23 July 31, 2012 by Byggare Bob
I feel that some of the more indignant posters on here will only ever see what they want to see regardless of what any stats indicate.

They are not interested in finding the truth and have stopped asking the questions. They seek evidence only to support their preconceived conclusions and ignore everything that does not conform with their world view.

Publishing stats according to race would not ease this situation it would only exaggerate it. Breivik is a lone crazy killer, Taimour Abdulwahab is an Islamic terrorist - both set out to kill.

@jostein by adopting the language of the playground bully, you are hardly displaying any academic credentials.
10:44 July 31, 2012 by jostein
@Byggare Bob

Well, howcome i shouldd be forced to explain basic knowledge every time i debate? Stuff that any normal person should have learned in school a long long time ago? Take grymagnussons ludicrous assertion that the difference in violent behaviour between men and women can be explained with nurture arguments? Its preposterous. And it destroys any possibility for normal debate or discussion. I simply demand that someone who wishes to debate has at least some basic knowledge about the world? grymagnusson deserves to be bullied out of the discussion and shame on you for not helping.

As for the rest of your post. If you were a democrat you would wish information of all sort to be freely available to all citizens. How else can they make an informed descicion when they vote? Why should origin be exempt from statistics? Any more than socioeconomic status or age? YOU are the one having a problem with race. I mean, if you are afraid of information about the world, maybe noone should really value your opinion? I mean, if you dont want it to be based on reality you either base it on ideology or wishful thinking? After all, your argument is "hide truths to manipulate the populace", or is it something im not getting?
12:17 July 31, 2012 by Byggare Bob
there is definitely "something you are not getting".
12:30 July 31, 2012 by Borilla
@StockholmSam

Your difficulty in reading and understanding English is again apparent. My goodness, your so touchy. You need to relax and try to understand things before you jump to conclusions. Good reporting clarifies the news and prevents misunderstandings. Withholding information causes misunderstandings.A man has been arrested and charged with attempted murder, apparently based on information from witnesses. Doesn't the public have a right to know who he is? Failing to give complete information only serves the purposes of those with specific agendas.
16:24 July 31, 2012 by bcterry
"A man has been arrested and charged with attempted murder, apparently based on information from witnesses. Doesn't the public have a right to know who he is? Failing to give complete information only serves the purposes of those with specific agendas. "

Whenever someone is charged with a crime in a free society they almost always release their name in an open court.

If there is a gag order in this particular case, i would be very curious as to the reason, as there doesn't appear on the face to be anything exceptional with this one.
17:36 July 31, 2012 by Byggare Bob
Not in Sweden bcterry. They almost never do until a conviction.
20:31 July 31, 2012 by jostein
12:17 July 31, 2012 by Byggare Bob

I mean, its not about academia. Its about having BASIC FRIGGIN SCHOOLING. Ok? Understand the problem? When people who do not even have basic schooling, BASIC. When they freely enter a debate with moderatlely educated people all the effort, all the words. all the thoughts. all the debate will gravitate towards bringing these creits up to some jot above their natural state of ignorance. And in a country such as sweden with NINE YEARS of absolutely free and absolutely mandatory schooling, any such ignorance is SELFCHOOSEN. It is an utter waste of time. And these people are choosing to sabotage debates.

Like, i know i suck at mathematics. I cannot even deal with basic triginomitry or sinus or cosinus. Im pathetically shamefully ignorant about things a normal person should know. So, i AVOID ENTERING MATHEMATICHAL DEBATES. If i did, i would bore every normally educated person to death with my ignorance and everybody would have spend lots and lots of time explainging the absolute fundamentals to me. And this grymagnusson is even worse than i would be in a discussion about mathematichs because on top of being shamefully ignorant she is opinionated. We cannot give this sortof behaviour any leeway. Because its pure and sheer destruction. It is antiknowledge. Sabotage.
09:23 August 1, 2012 by Byggare Bob
"i would bore every normally educated person to death with my ignorance"

like I said, there is definitely something you are not getting.
04:45 August 2, 2012 by Rod Munch
@ Byggare Bob- Highlighting a quote that was clearly taken out of context does nothing more than show that Jostein is giving you a solid a$$ whooping...which is plainly obvious for anyone reading this thread. You should just tuck tail and go.
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