Baby dies after Stockholm suicide jump
Published: 3 Aug 12 17:32 CET | Print version
Online: http://www.thelocal.se/42414/20120803/
A 3-month-old baby boy who was severely injured after his mother leapt from a bridge in central Stockholm with him in her arms last Saturday, has died in hospital.
- Mum and baby in suicide jump from bridge (31 Jul 12)
Stockholm police have confirmed that the baby died on Wednesday, according to a report in the Aftonbladet daily.
The 33-year-old woman, who remains in a medically-induced coma, has previously been suspected of attempted murder, this could now change.
"If there is a intent it could be a question of murder, otherwise it would be classified as manslaughter," said Stockholm police spokesperson Kjell Lindgren to the newspaper.
Police have as yet been unable to interview the woman and according to Lindgren it will be up to her doctors to decide when this is possible.
The incident occurred on Saturday morning at around 9am by Slussen - a busy road and public transport junction in central Stockholm.
According to a witness report the woman stood for a while on the bridge before leaping over the railing onto the road below.
"I looked at her and she looked back. Then I kept going. When I was 100 metres away I turned and then she was gone," the witness told Aftonbladet at the time.
According to the police there are no further people suspected of involvement in the incident.
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Then I kept going? Then I kept going???? Then I kept going????????? Why the f*** would anyone *keep going* if they saw a woman with a baby standing on a bridge about to commit suicide. I find it hard to comprehend that a bystander would walk a 100 metres away and turn their back on a situation like this (especially as a baby was involved). How can this possibly happen I ask myself? Ohhhhhh...but hang on a minute. I suddenly realised. This wasn't in Britain....or the US or Australia. It was good old Sweden wasn't it. Stockholm of course. Where else. The place where nobody smiles at you (even if they have shared a bustop with you for the last 35 god damn years).
RIP little one. And I sincerely hope that this poor troubled mother get's all the emotional support she needs.
It differs between states, doesn't it? In New York so called "innocent bystanders" can walk free even if they don't intervene, no?
The question has been debated in Sweden. Last spring, 2011, there was a proposal of making a law considering handlingsplikt - "duty of intervening" - in situations like this, and similar. Unfortunately it doesn't seem yet to have left the "table of proposals". Hopefully this occurrence by the bridge will give new fuel to the debate so that at least some good will come of it.
At least there IS a duty to intervene if you happen to see a CRIME going on. If neglecting you do actually commit a crime yourself.
I wish people learn to help each other to save innocent lives.
I agree with Thomas S. Szasz who said:
"Suicide is a fundamental human right. This does not mean that it is morally desirable. It only means that society does not have the moral right to interfere"
The question is if the witness has the moral right to interfere without even knowing the reason of the person, who has decided to commit suicide?
By reading the comments in here, I don't think the witness can be blamed (and the behavior of the witness can be judged wrong), about the baby read the article again (on the Stockholm police personal).
I am not familiar with the laws for each State it could be correct about New York but I am not sure.
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All you need to do is ask if they need help you don't automatically assume that they are going to commit suicide. But the right thing to do if your INSTINCTS are screaming at you that something is not right is to see if you can help.
How do you know that the witness knew that the woman was about to jump? THe witness can`t be blamed for anything. And how do you know the witness wasn`t a tourist from the US, Australia or Britain?
But don`t think this is only something that happens in one country, it happens everywhere. You should look up what the "bystander effect" is and in what country it`s meantioned in.
Totally agree with Migga here. I've noticed miserable people like yourself are quite typical representive acting like some garbage dump that spew out bullshit based on ignorance and hatred.
Based on your nick I assume you're a Brit, coming from a country where people aren't exactly known for good teeth health. I'd advice you to shut up your ugly mouths and smile less more often, because nobody wants to see your ugly teeth
when sharing a bus stop.
How many people have you (general) met just before they attempt to kill themselves?
Would you assume a suicide attempt if you saw a baby in the arms of someone on a bridge?
The report doesn't say that the witness saw the woman stood on the edge looking down, just that they saw her. This could mean anything, she could have just been walking slowly or looked like she was waiting for someone, hence, the bystander did nothing wrong. Your first thought when you see someone on a bridge isn't "Oh god they're going to throw themselves" it's more likely to be something like "She's got nice hair. So from ICA I need..."