'Assange asylum rumour is false': Ecuador

What absolute rubbish. Assange could be easily extradited to the US from Britain as the British have a very close relationship with America and there would be no problem at all if the US so desired . This is just a ploy to not go to trial in Sweden.

So what kind of person is Julian Assange? Well Assamnge has said he "gets immense pleasure in hurting the American Government" and he "wants to bring it down." This the very government that has, and is still is actually safeguarding his freedoms and indeed that of Sweden and the rest of the free world.

U.S. military power has been in building and sustaining the present liberal international order.That order has rested significantly on the U.S. ability to provide security in parts of the world, such as Europe and Asia, that had known endless cycles of warfare before the arrival of the United States.

"How many times, in its thousands of years of history, has Europe gone 60 years without a major war, as it has since World War II? That peace has been due to the American military and America's nuclear weapons, which was all that could deter the Soviet Union's armies from marching right across Europe to the Atlantic Ocean. Not a day passes in Europe when someone isn't making the wildest claims, hurling the vilest insults or spreading the most outlandish conspiracy theories about the United States. But there's no risk involved and it all serves mainly to boost the European feeling of self-righteousness...Thomas Sewell.

@hawkeye seems irrelevant a lot of point you are bringing up. You may see the US as being beneficial however, ask the average Iraqi or Afghani, their opinion is likely to be different. Keep in mind the US is the aggressor invading countries and surrounding Iran with military bases. Its US national policy that is wrong and should be exposed at every opportunity just as any other nations foreign policy should also be exposed...thereby, letting the people know via full transparency what their governments are up to. Such actions help countries that have their act together, such as China, more quickly dominate the world we live in. The faster China can bring down the west economically the quicker the god's we worship can be identified as false (e.g., modern economic philosophy, democracies that suffer from regulatory capture and are no longer democracies, too big to fail companies create tax and wage slaves out of the rest of us). In sum, Wikileaks helps to deconstruct societies, this is helpful as many he targets definitely need to fail and be rebuilt from the ground up. Read the book Winner Take All and get back to me.

@hawkeye

Long live Obama and the United States. The fact that they have had more than 200 military interventions around the world, in the name of democracy, oil, and whatever you might think of, is irrelevant for you.

My country, Mexico, suffered two military interventions. Two. Why do you not check about Grenada, Dominica, Honduras, Cuba, Nicaragua, Iraq, Korea, Panama, Dominican Republic and even Russia between 1918 and 1922, when marines and troops did five landings to fight bolsheviks.

So, go to school and do a proper research.

@SOIS.COM

Sorry, but none of that has to do with Assange's legal problem. They make great theatrics.

No one has been able to produce anything that America interests are in play with the accusations against Assange. It have been almost two years now, and nothing has produced.

All that is heard is misunderstanding, misrepresentation and omissions of laws.

The reality is that Assange is trapped in the embassy refusing to address his legal problems in Sweden. His excuses are weak, but a great place of solace against real legal problems.

The irony is this infallible quality that many seem to give to Assange. The accusations against Assange maybe just a lapse in judgement by Assange.

@Tiny

Wikileaks uncovered that Sweden is not "non-alinged" any longer and that put egg on Sweden's face. For example, Sweden allowing the US to tap and process data carried across Sweden, some of which is a hefty share of Russian traffic.

Check out "The Professors Blog" there are many more legitimate examples of Sweden protecting its interests at the expense of JA and Wikileaks.

@SOIS.COM

The same problem still exist. That has absolutely no relationship to the legal problems has in Sweden. If there is a desire to be believed that there is a requirement to show some correlation. The usual suspects do not count.

OUIJA

Although it is totally not related to the article…

Pure COUNTING of US engagements is idiotic. If my memory does not lie to me, the entire Europe was pounding on US for isolationist politics before the WWI. Then French and Brits were criticizing limited engagement in WWI. Then the allies (soviets mostly) were moaning that US does not join the war to help against Hitler. So when feces hit the fan, everyone is into moaning about the lack of engagement on behalf of US.

While counting the American engagements, one should count also saving the behinds of South Koreans, the ONLY attempt to stop artificial starvation of Somalians by removing the dictator, saving the behinds of Kuwaitees, moaning of Lybian rebels for help - when they had one city left, moaning of the Afghanis who were dying under soviet carpet bombings. Let us not forget all this.

Also, let us not forget that 100% of communist/socialist regimes are into oppression of their people, by which the injustices in the US (which are revealed by americans themselves btw) look like a child's play. China, Vietnam, Kambodia, Burma, USSR, N. Korea, Cuba, Albania, Angola, Congo etc are or were hell on earth to those who do not comply with the masses. Let us not forget that Stalin had a firm and clear plan on communist expansion, as according to Marx, communism cannot survive in isolation.

There was a clear stated plan for economic and political structure for Socialist republics of Mexico, France, Argentina etc. Although crippled by Germany, by 1945 Soviet army was most formidable force in the European continent filled with experienced officers and soldiers, who were TAKING PRIDE in losses, rather than preventing them and intensively developing nuclear capabilities. And let us not forget who was on the other side of the Latin American, Asian and African clashes. Nobody seems to hold Russians responsible for anything these days!

Without the US, we would be having this conversation in Russian and in person, since the invention of internet would have been delayed.

So stop #itching!

If you were accused of rape, questioned, told you can go, and then after you left the country they issued an arrest warrant because "they want to question you", would you go back?

SOIS.COM ..

"Wikileaks helps to deconstruct societies, this is helpful as many he targets definitely need to fail and be rebuilt from the ground up."

Are you for real? You have for sure been smoking too much of the weed sport!

OUIJA

Your country Mexico is a basket case run by corrupt politicians and drug lords.The US takes in tens of millions of Mexicans, educates them and gives them new lives while Mexicans across the border just keep having huge families that they can neither feed or support and where the kids will have to cross the border to get a decent life. The are now over 11 million illegals in the US and almost all are Mexicans. The US has given Mexican illegals amnesty twice i9n the past allowing over 20 million illegals residence.The US gives Mexico billions of dollars in aid and what thanks do they get for it? Stupid letters like yours smearing them for some absurd reasons which make absolutely no sense at all.

There are some good posts here but for those Swedes who do not appreciate the US, keep in mind that those bases are what provides your security with over 70,000 US troops in Europe and America spends $100 billion a year of the defence of Europe. And by the way, NATO could not even manage a two week bombing campaign in Libya without American help.

@Hawkeye,

I am not going to presume to judge Australian democracy as I have not experienced it firsthand. On the other-hand, democracy in the UK and USA is largely a myth as the politicians have been bought off by special interests, namely business and banks, long ago.

The West's shining card of credibility was its democracy. Without democracy the west is a myth and an inefficient one at that. The up and coming well educated populations of India and China can do more with less and therefore, they shall inherit the earth and deservedly so. Most Western countries don't work hard enough to deserve what they have and again, the benefits are mostly squandered away on hoarding of wealth rather than driving society forward. The quicker the world economy built on 750+ trillion (10 times the world economy) in derivatives collapses and those who were part of that power structure were gone the better for us all.

Said another way there exists 30 times as much in the currency market as is needed for global trade, same goes with varied amount of multipliers for many commodities. Highly profitable business for some, but a synthetic mythical one. If true democracy existed those synthetic markets would not as they are responsible for inflation and skewing the real productive value of economies.

Isn't it amazing that the equally spineless British government is willing to violate an embassy, against all international norms, over a baseless and silly trumped-up charge that Mr. Asssange failed to use a rubber? Normally, they wouldn't enter an embassy even over a truly major crime, such as murder. This would completely destroy all global diplomacy. Is Assange That important to the Powers that Be?

This is all soooo transparent. As for those rainbow people who think Sweden is so fine it wouldn't render Assange to the US for life imprisonment or death for the crime of - gasp - Telling the Truth, they are living in fantasy land.

Both Britain and Sweden are just lickspittle little countries that bend over for the mighty United States, the real mover behind global secrecy. The US doesn't want their massive crimes exposed and will make an example of Assange with a kangaroo trial, worthy of the former Soviet Union. The minute Assange gets to Sweden that gutless government will extradite him to their true ruler, the US.

There is a concerted effort to shut up all whistleblowers and keep us all in the dark to what really goes on. If the US wins this one, say goodbye to any truth or freedom.

When we live in a world where the truth is Never known, we will be in the coziest of total dictatorships. But since we will only be fed lies, we won't know that. Welcome to 1984.

It would be nice if Ecuador didn't lick the booted heel of the US, as Britain and Sweden are, but as usual, there is probably a lot of Money at stake. The oil giant Chevron is pushing the US to punish Ecuador if they do grant asylum. Nice to remember that the US is run by the oil companies and the banks, not by the people.

@ cybervigilante.

What country is run by the people?

@ @@hawkeye

You are 100% correct,

Everything in the name of the dollar justify anything to the USA, Its the American Way....

@ robban70226,

What country does not rely on the dollar?

They ALL do, it's the way of the world.

SOIS.COM

SOIS, you should seriously read about democracy and what defines it. Yes, money helps people to get elected, however the CORE of democracy is not elections, as the case with Nazi Germany clearly shows. It is neither lack of firm law, or lack of secret services or eternal peace and dances with unicorns.

It is the system of CHECKS and BALANCES, where nobody is too powerful. President needs to convince the Congress, Congress - the senate, Senate - the judges, Judges - approved by president for LIFE etc.

Courts in USA are independent of president's will or the will of congress, unlike the USSR (or even Russia) case. American press reveals all the dirt about US, not foreign one. It is the first sign of freedom.

You also seem not to realize that unlike, say, Guantanomo prisoners, prisoners in dictatorships disappear forever. There are still hundreds of irani students "missing" after being arrested in the latest riots, there are horrible things that happen to MILLIONS in N.Korea. Belorussian HR activists are raped in prisons or "commit suicide" by hacking themselves with kitchen knives.

I read a testimony of a guy, who lived in USSR in a communal apartment together with a neighbour, who was responsible for making "execution lists". Those who forgot light on in the toilet or did not wash their cup DISAPPEARED the same night! DO you even comprehend that your comparison of US to USSR is demagogy without any grounds to it?

@Mark S. #8

As witness to the problems that Assange has had, I would go back. However, that is irrelevant to Assanges case.

It is correct that a prosecutor told Assange he was free to go, but that was before the case was reopened.

The new Sweden prosecutors were attempting to arrange an interview before Assange left Sweden. This is what one of his lawyers admitted in court.

It seems that Assange will be formally charged once he arrives in Sweden, all because of stubbornness.