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Published: 17 Aug 12 07:07 CET | Print version
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The United States said Thursday it was not involved in the international row over WikiLeaks' founder Julian Assange, denying charges it was pressuring Britain to seize him.


State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland declined comment on Ecuador's offer of asylum to Assange but rejected assertions by WikiLeaks and Quito that the Internet activist needed protection against the United States.

"With regard to the charge that the US was intent on persecuting him, I reject that completely," Nuland told reporters.

Asked whether the United States was pressuring Britain to seize Assange, who has been holed up for two months in Ecuador's embassy in London, Nuland said she had "no information to indicate that there is any truth to that at all."

"It is an issue among the countries involved and we are not planning to
interject ourselves," Nuland told reporters.

Nuland did not comment on whether the United States was interested in general in prosecuting Assange, saying: "I am not going to get into all of the legal ins and outs about what may or may not have been in his future before he chose to take refuge in the Ecuadorian mission."

The Organization of American States, which met in emergency session, said it would decide Friday whether to call a meeting of its foreign ministers. Britain has observer status in the OAS.

The Australian government maintained its stance that the asylum decision was a matter for the WikiLeaks founder and the governments of Britain and Ecuador, reported AAP.

"Australia's role remains unchanged. Mr Assange remains in the Ecuadorian Embassy in London, and we have and will continue to make regular contact with embassy staff to check on his welfare and offer him consular assistance," a spokesman for the Australian Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade told the news agency.

The EU's foreign affairs chief Catherine Ashton kept her distance Thursday from the furore in London and Stockholm over Ecuador's decision to grant Julian Assange asylum.

"This is essentially a bilateral issue between the UK and Ecuador," a spokesperson for Ashton, the English baroness who heads the European Union's diplomatic service, told AFP.

The Ashton official said that "the EU delegation in Quito is following this case closely, in contact with the UK embassy."

The spokesperson added: "We trust that the issue will be resolved through
dialogue and in full accordance with applicable international law."

Mina Andreeva, spokeswoman for EU justice commissioner Viviane Reding, said the EU arrest warrant "applies when one EU country requests the surrender of an EU citizen to another EU country.

"It would only apply if the UK arrests Assange and then decided to extradite him - or not."

"It cannot apply while he is in the embassy of Ecuador," she underlined.

Assange is wanted in Sweden for questioning about allegations of rape and sexual assault, and a British court had already ruled that Assange could be extradited.

Angering the United States by releasing a trove of classified US documents on his whistleblowing website, Assange been holed up in the Ecuador's embassy in London since June 19.

Ecuador said Thursday that it was offering asylum to Assange because London, Stockholm and Washington refused to guarantee that Assange would not be sent on to the United States.

Ecuador has called a meeting of foreign ministers from the South American regional bloc UNASUR on Sunday.

"Nobody is going to scare us," Ecuador's President Rafael Correa said on
his Twitter account, minutes before the decision was announced.

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07:54 August 17, 2012 by Bushyblondehead
Big govts. tend to make some people disapear sooner or later.
08:08 August 17, 2012 by Fred Johnsson
"Ecuador said Thursday that it was offering asylum to Assange because London, Stockholm and Washington refused to guarantee that Assange would not be sent on to the United States."

Finally! Someone who can see his side and protect him from vicious plans!

He deservers a medal for exposing inside corruption at government level!
08:21 August 17, 2012 by robban70226
Now is the reality check on how much corruption and incompetence exist in the legal system Sweden, The rest of the world will see the real Swedish System, Shame for UK for their dirty tricks,

There will be a lot of skeletons out the Swedish and British closets before it is over,

Who need Wiki leaks when the governments are airing the dirty clothe out by themselves bow.. It will be interesting to follow the politics and respect of international treaties, good test..
09:02 August 17, 2012 by crunchy2k
Anyone who has followed this from the start saw, 1.The woman collaborated on Facebook before going to the police. They went to the police, days later, to ask if it was illegal they way they had consensual sex. Neither woman contested Assange's amorous advances the next morning at the time. The cops blew them off. 2. Some 'Entity' got the charges reinstated and sent to a prosecutor. The first prosecutor blew them off. 3. The same 'Entity' got the Swedes to find a prosecutor that would file charges. 4. The charges are at the same level as a traffic ticket in Sweden. I was told it is a 750 kroner ($124) fine.

So, who is this 'Entity' that can make a mockery of the Swedish and British justice systems?
09:15 August 17, 2012 by mafketis
I tend to believe there was no direct pressure by the US on the UK.

Since when does a master need to 'pressure' a slave?
09:40 August 17, 2012 by robban70226
Do you believe Victoria?? If you do let me know, The Brooklyn Bridge and the Ifel Tower are for sale too, cheap price for you
10:17 August 17, 2012 by OUIJA
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10:27 August 17, 2012 by Garry Jones
One big point here. In 2010 this was hot news. If the USA wanted him then it would have been more likely to go for him then. If he felt Sweden was likely to turn him over on request then.

1) Why did he come here openly in 2010

2) Why did he ask to stay in Sweden?

He did these because he knows Sweden would never turn him over. Only point remaining is that he does not want to come back for "questioning" because he has already been questioned so he knows further questioning will probably result in a formal charge.

The official police statements from 2010

http://www.nnn.se/nordic/assange/docs/memoria.pdf

English translation

http://www.nnn.se/nordic/assange/docs/protocol.pdf
10:30 August 17, 2012 by mnphoto87
"With regard to the charge that the US was intent on persecuting him, I reject that completely," Nuland told reporters.

Haha. From Wikipedia:

In May 2010, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell had used the phrase, calling Assange "a high-tech terrorist", and saying "he has done enormous damage to our country. I think he needs to be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law".

On 29 November 2010, Rep. Peter King, Chairman of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence (HPSCI) wrote to Attorney General Eric Holder, asking that Assange should be prosecuted under the Espionage Act of 1917, and that he should be declared a terrorist. The same day, Rep. King also wrote to Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, requesting that she designate Wikileaks as a Foreign Terrorist Organization.

In December 2010, it was reported that US Ambassador to Switzerland Donald S. Beyer had warned the Swiss government against offering asylum to Assange, citing the arrest warrant issued by Interpol.

On 2 December 2010, Senator Feinstein and Senator Kit Bond, (respectively, the) Chairman and Ranking Member of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence (SSCI), sent a joint-letter to Attorney General Holder, asking him to prosecute Mr. Assange under the Espionage Act [18 U.S.C. 793(e)], offering to "close those gaps in the law" if the DOJ found it difficult to apply the law to Mr. Assange's case.

On 14 December 2010, the US Department of Justice issued a subpoena ordering Twitter to release information relating to Assange's account.

When asked if he saw Assange more as a high-tech terrorist or as a whistleblower, like those who released the Pentagon papers in the 1970s, US Vice President Joe Biden said: "I would argue it is closer to being a high-tech terrorist than the Pentagon papers."

And this guy is no politican but his opinion is surely shared by many in the current admininstration:

On 6 December 2010, during a segment of the Fox Business show Follow The Money, Fox News political commentator and analyst Bob Beckel stated, "A dead man can't leak stuff. This guy's a traitor, he's treasonous, and he has broken every law of the United States. [...] And I'm not for the death penalty, so [...] there's only one way to do it: illegally shoot the son of a bitch." Other guests on the program agreed.
10:44 August 17, 2012 by OUIJA
10:30 August 17, 2012 by mnphoto87 # 9

Thanks!

How about that? Swedish Judicial system, Swedish government and maily Carl Bildt?

I think they all were made by Gepetto. Too many Pinocchios there, here and in this threads around Assange, whose only crime was to make love with two Swedish w... and believe that there is freedom of speech in the world, especially in his home country, in the USA and in Sweden, the biggest a. l. from Obama and Clinton.
10:47 August 17, 2012 by Texrusso
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12:33 August 17, 2012 by philster61
If Im not mistaken US policy has always been to neither confirm nor deny. How else could they get away with everything they do?
12:46 August 17, 2012 by david anderson
At the present time in the US we are teacching our school children to stand up and report the "bullies"

Look's to me as tho Ecuador learned their lesson and stood up to the US, England, Swedish bullies.

Go Ecuador!!

A Swedish-american
12:58 August 17, 2012 by bcterry
"I think they all were made by Gepetto. Too many Pinocchios there, here and in this threads around Assange, whose only crime was to make love with two Swedish w... "

What a joke, LMAO.

How in the hell do you know what the hell happened with those women, were you there?

Bloody ignorant.
13:58 August 17, 2012 by Heinrich Volker
The headline is misleading, there was no denial that the United States pressured Britain. The spokesperson said she had "no information to indicate that there is any truth to that at all." In other words, she claims not to know.
14:33 August 17, 2012 by Eric1
These type of headlines are laughable. It's like saying "Mother Theresa denies giving birth to 20 children".
15:45 August 17, 2012 by devilliers
Sweden: Just another two bit State in service to America.
16:12 August 17, 2012 by hoplite
This situation has the potential to damage relationships bettween all of the countries involved and galvanise the common peoples of the global world through the use of social media. Assange is a beacon of light in a world run by greedy trans-nationals and lacky politicans. People need to spread the message and not let this generous and just offer of asylum be ignored
16:44 August 17, 2012 by OUIJA
# 14 bcterry

As usual, you are the bloody ignorant. If you want to know what almost everybody knows in this world, go to

http://www.nnn.se/nordic/assange.htm

and please, think before oponing your mouth and do your research homework properly
18:54 August 17, 2012 by cheeba
Was Viviane Reding's spokesperson misquoted? According to this article she said the EU arrest warrant concerned EU states requesting surrendering "an EU citizen to another EU country". Assange is an Australian citizen ?.!!

So now the OAS is meeting on the matter, you know the Malvinas may well get tangled up in this, they should have looked the other way and allowed him to leave quietly.
19:57 August 17, 2012 by bcterry
@ OUIJA,

As usual, you think you have the absolute answer without knowing ALL the specifics.

Until you get them ALL, please do not "open your mouth" with absolute conclusions.

Did you, and "almost everybody knows in this world" ever consider there may be more to this than what has been released?

Of course not, as YOU already have the absolute answer, i'm sure it never crossed your mind.
21:03 August 17, 2012 by OUIJA
#21 bcterry.

I do not have the absolute answer. That is the reason I referred to a link that has ALMOST the absolute answer until proven the contrary:

http://www.nnn.se/nordic/assange.htm

but since you are not only d... but blind, you cannot see that the link does not belong to me. It belongs to an investigative reporter who has dedicated to put in order everything related to the Assange Case.

If, bcterry, your "ever consider there may be more to this than what has been released?" is what you meant. I IMPLORE YOU, I BEG YOU, OH MASTER OF MASTERS, to tell us what is more to say that we simple mortals do not know?

You are the one who has, as many others, the ABSOLUT ANSWER. I think that you drink to much ABSOLUT VODKA.

To wind up, please answer me the following:

What is what you have against Assange that you still have not revealed here? Perhaps he made love with two of your acquaintances, something that you just could not. O.K. I am just speculating, but...

And bcterry: you wrote "without knowing ALL the specifics.". Could you please enlighten us, MASTER OF MASTERS, what are all the specifics? If you know them, please, please, let US ALL know about your incredible knowledge about the case.
21:10 August 17, 2012 by Nomark
My sympathies lie firmly with the staff of the Ecuador embassy. JA has managed to alienate just about everyone he has ever worked with even if they were originally sympathetic to his activities.

On another note, I never quite got the argument that he shouldn't be extradited to Sweden in case he is sent to the US given that he's already in a US-friendly country. According to the conspiracy theorists, the UK is bending over backwards to satisfy their US masters. Can someone please explain (and please use facts not speculation and supposition) why going via Sweden to the US is easier than sending him directly from the UK. Its not enough just to reproduce an argument - substantiating the argument is required.
22:26 August 17, 2012 by bcterry
21:03 August 17, 2012 by OUIJA ,

I do not have the absolute answer. That is the reason I referred to a link that has ALMOST the absolute answer until proven the contrary:

"Assange, whose only crime was to make love with two Swedish w.."

That is an undeniable black and white statement of absolution.

Nothing "ALMOST" about it whatsoever.

"If, bcterry, your "ever consider there may be more to this than what has been released?" is what you meant. I IMPLORE YOU, I BEG YOU, OH MASTER OF MASTERS, to tell us what is more to say that we simple mortals do not know?"

I don't know ALL the specifics, and never claimed to.

I reserve any judgement one way or the other until this has run it's course.

I have my opinions, but i will never state absolutely about anything that has not been resolved by verifiable, documented facts.

"You are the one who has, as many others, the ABSOLUT ANSWER. I think that you drink to much ABSOLUT VODKA. "

Why don't you put up my post where i have given an absolute answer on this, i would love to see it, or is that statement just fabricated bullsxxt?

We shall see.

BTW, sorry to throw a wrench into more of your speculative bullsxxt, i don't drink alcohol at all.

"What is what you have against Assange that you still have not revealed here? Perhaps he made love with two of your acquaintances, something that you just could not. O.K. I am just speculating, but..."

And as we have seen, you are certainly a master of speculation.

"Could you please enlighten us, MASTER OF MASTERS, what are all the specifics? "

Unlike yourself and your crystal ball, i do not have them, and have no reservation in saying so until i do.
04:59 August 18, 2012 by ThePoliticallyIncorrect
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06:09 August 18, 2012 by Nomark
ThePoliticallyIncorrect - I've reported your post and I hope it gets removed.

Since the likes of you whinge about justice remember this - those who allege sexual assault are afforded anonymity for several good reasons. One such reason is to stop guttersnipes who don't know if the accused is innocent or guilty (even if they think they do) throwing mud and mobbing. That woman you identify and castigate is now known as "the most hated woman on the internet" by people who've never met her and who have no idea if she's a real victim of a liar (like you). Her "crime" was to report JA for an alleged offence. JA, of course, refuses to address those accusations and yet she is the one to come in for all this sh*t from the likes of you.

It amazes me that JA supporters try to claim the moral high ground. You're down there in the gutter.
06:51 August 18, 2012 by OUIJA
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07:06 August 18, 2012 by Nomark
Ouija

I'm not Swedish. Then again I'm not surprised you got my nationality wrong since you get lots of other things wrong as well. Remember supposition and fact are not the same thing

Don't lecture me or anyone else on morality given that you publicise the names of the alleged victims of Assange. As mentioned, one of them is now known as "the most hated woman on the internet". Alleged victims of sexual assault are given anonymity for a reason. It might be hard for you to do this but please just shut up or, if you can't do that, whinge about something else (I'm sure you have a very very long list).
08:31 August 18, 2012 by Unconditional1
The US, always getting its grunders in a bundle over something! While it is always wise to never get into a pis*ing contest with a skunk, it is most pleasurable to see the US being outfoxed by a smarter fox!
08:34 August 18, 2012 by OUIJA
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10:30 August 18, 2012 by OUIJA
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15:17 August 18, 2012 by Nomark
Ouija - you just don't get it.

Barock and roll - I'm aware that the names are all over the internet. One of the women is now known as "the most hated woman on the internet" - nice, I thought JA supporters were supposed to be occupying the moral high ground. However, there are still many people who don't know who they are - why else would certain posters want to post their theories about them and identify them here ? This is disgraceful mobbing and its no excuse that because others do so as well its ok to identify these women. Hiding in the crowd doesn't remove one's culpability however much it may feel that way.
01:43 August 19, 2012 by Uncle
It is quite funny to see the Latin market that you open whenever your infantile comments about "ya mamma" are removed.

Since you actually BELIEVE that TheLocal maintains a squad of "truth deniers" (like myself in one of your examples) your unstable psyche is just getting exposed.

Just for your info (and as you noticed, I have some experience in this site, so take it as a good ol' advice) - this is the first symptom of your disappearance whether through being logically butchered (does not seem like a challenge so far), or through simple blockage on your IP by the moderators, since aggressive bulls like you cannot withstand mocking for a long time without slipping into "your mama is so fat..." world at the start of every post.

Now, you actually think that giving reasons for denial of liability of an accused person should relieve one from a trial, although there is a current accusation against him. To your surprise, MOST of rapists, murderers and pedophiles have an assumed alibi. "It was consensual", "I did not know she was 15", "I was at home at that time", "I have friends that saw me at a party at that time". Cases are not dismissed, because apparently the defendant has a CASE.

They are dismissed when these cases are presented at the court of law and not repeated by the defendant's faithful worshippers on blogs like nnn.se or whatever. Additionally, as I pointed out before, Ecuador is dependent on the US much more than Sweden. Actually, the mere survival of the current ruling clan in Ecuador is hanging on the US pure will (currency, indebtness and exports of Ecuador). So although it looks like Assange won, he got himself into a trap.

That is why US relaxed and says that no pressure was applied. It is a matter of months until he is sold to USA or murdered by the enemies of US who want to harm american reputation. I say - Iran gets to him first. Perhaps Russia will be more effective. In any case, his personal future is not relevant anymore.
12:48 August 22, 2012 by ramazama
... very wise for Assange to never want to set foot in that right wing Napoleon the pig , perverted , feminist dictatorship ---- Sweden . the guy fell for the " honey trap " , hopefully he has escaped !
15:17 August 22, 2012 by tadchem
The issue should not be Assange's paranoid delusions that he is being persecuted by the U.S.

The issue should be that there are serious allegations against Assange concerning a crime of violence against one or more Swedish citizens that need to be addressed.
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