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Swedish artist Lars Vilks has defened his decision to speak at an anti-Islamic conference in New York on September 11th, claiming he would also accept an invitation from the Ku Klux Klan.
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I can not BELIEVE the Swedish society is paying for his protection??? WHY? He should take sole responsibility for his actions....own up and take the consequences of his actions!!!
(i havent personally checked out what cleverism Vilks comitted this time but its always there, if you bother to look.)
The consequence of being murdered for exercising his right to free speech?
How charming.
That may the violent norm in the barbaric fascist states ruled by the "religion of peace" , but it has no place in the civilized world.
he's not a worthy guest at a university or big institution, but worth invited by devils like him.
The one has nothing to do with the other. While artistic freedom and freedom of speech should be guaranteed, that doesnt mean we, or in this case the gallery, has to like what is said or produced. Ironic that the other participants wont allow the gallery to express themselves :-)
I wonder if Vilks means that he supports KKK opinions, or to accept KKK invitation support freedom of speech?
I think he is mixing up freedom of speech with hate speech; everybody knows what KKK stands for!
Freedom of speech is one thing. Freedom to abuse other people is another. He is a waste of our taxpayer money. Sweden should dump this a*hole and do not waste police resources.
What other people did he abuse, and how did he abuse them?
"He should take sole responsibility for his actions....own up and take the consequences of his actions!!! "
He drew a picture. What should the consequences be for that?
It's a matter of definition of Religious Rights.. which, by definition, is in conclift with freedom of speech There are 2 points and have their own issues:
1) Freedom of speech says you can say whatever you want about anything as long as you make sure it is your personal opinion.
2) The follower of Islamic Believe have in their Qur'an that there will be no images of the Prophet Muhammad in any form.
Those 2 issues are at obvious conflict. And interestingly there is nothing really in most other cultures to come close to that. So the only ones who WILL take office is the Muslims. They actually have to because it is spelled out in their religious text that this is what they are supposed to do.
So...Freedom of speech that is aimed at a religious group on a way VERY obviously going to cause problems borders on "inciting a riot" because you KNOW that is what will happen BEFORE you do it.... well... I can't say I am surprised Muslims hate him. What did her THINK was gonna happen?
I am not a Follower of Islam, and I don't approve of then going on a muder speet for what his did... BUT, I do think there should be consideration of a hate crame because there is really no other way this could have turned out.
2) The follower of Islamic Believe have in their Qur'an that there will be no images of the Prophet Muhammad in any form."
So what?
Vilk's picture was his personal opinion, was it not?
What gives them the right to dictate to anyone, what or who is beyond criticism?
8:55 (Asad) Verily, the vilest creatures in the sight of God are those who are bent on denying the truth and therefore do not believe.
Asad (8,58)
Many of us who find that one example every bit as offensive and insulting as they find the pictures.
What gives them the right to insult others, while others do not have the right to criticize whatever part of their mythological nonsense or self proclaimed so called "prophet" they see fit?
No one, or anything, is beyond criticism, and religions are certainly not exempt.
There are are over 500 examples of intolerance and bigotry in the koran, that are very insulting and offensive to those they are directed against.
Link,
"Intolerance in the quran"
How do you expect they would react if the tables were turned?
Let's have a look at an example.
Link,
"Hate Speech? (Not According to CAIR)"
They have a right to hate Vilks, as much as he has a right to criticize an obvious fascist ideology and they leader.
But neither have the right to respond with violence.
I read a comment saying that since the coran forbids images of the prophet it is a normal reaction. But i would be surprised if the coran said that it is ok to kill or threaten to kill someone for any reason...
I am not a muslim, nor do i follow any religion actually although my familly was catholic like most french famillies. But i have grown up with muslim friends, and i never heard them threaten anyone when french newspapers published funny drawings of the prophet or of jesus christ or other religious personalities... That is anyone's right to draw and publish what they want. No one forces anyone to buy it.
Now there are a certain amount of primitive monkeys who hide behind religion to propagate hate and violance, the people who threaten this guy with his life are part of that group, and i am happy to finance his security through my tax money. I would also like to see these idiots made clear by our government that threatening people of death is against the law and will be punished.
I also saw comments about the kkk, another example of backward monkeys who hide behind religion... Or wasp (white anglo saxon protestants)... And there are many more... Like the taliban and al kaida... Different religion, same crap...
Unfortunately that gives a bad image about regular muslims or christians. I wish we could see more official statements from religious leader to make clear that those monkeys arenot representative of what religion stands for and that they are not recognized as muslim or as christians... That would make things clear...
i think vilks said that meaning he will speak to anyone who will listen since his message is legitimate.
F.-ck anti blasphemy laws and anyone who threatens free speech with death shouldnt be walking the streets.
Remember hitler and the burning of some books... And women who are not allowed to educate themselves or go out...
One year ago, a french paper was attacked by a couple of terrorists, i would call them idiotic monkeys. The paper had published funny drawings of mohamet, as they normally do for jesus, god, and any famous person or religious personality. So these idiots thought they had the right to burn their office down and threw molotov cocktails in the office. No one was hurt but the building was destroyed.
Actually that paper is run by people who have always defended minorities, including muslims. But they are also a paper that loves to criticize anything and anyone and do so through a lot of drawings. Theycan apear offensive to some people, but if you have a sense of humour it can also be very funny. I do not agree with their political views, but sometimes i enjoy laughin at some pictures and jokes in their paper...
What was done was criminal .
I actually subscribed to their paper for one year to express my support, despite the fact that i disagree with many of their political views. Just to protect our freedom of speech.
For me paying to protect this guy here s the same thing. This is one of the few good things that are done with our tax money!
Thank you, I agree with you except for the fact that it is not fair to the monkeys being compared to these people. Animals are honest and descent creatures. :o)
Freedom of speech is one of the most valuable things we have in Sweden and would say that most refugees are running away from their countries / dictatorships for just that reason and are accepted here. No we do not want to bring that in here as well.
Last time I checked Muslims are not allowed to read foreign uncensored news papers. How is it then OK that they read this article published in Denmark??
I do not believe that Viiks was a racist when published those pictures however I understand that he might not be so humble any more being treated to his life..
"This guy is a racist bigot.... He is obviously Islamophobe and hates Muslims and immigrants"
My dear somalian buddy, shoving everyone, who speaks against your racist, chauvinist, intolerant towards sexual/religious/ethnic minorities "religion" into "racism" is such an old school, that even most excited communists are not buying it any more.
Moreover, shoving opposition to this pile of garbage that turned your country into a living hell and your people into those who can escape, while climbing on dead bodies of their own people and those who cannot, "hatred against immigrants" is infantile and quite in line with your high quality education. (hope you understood the long sentence. If not, I could break it down to smaller pieces).
"Freedom of speech is one thing. Freedom to abuse other people is another. He is a waste of our taxpayer money"
In this case, the entire muslim population who does nothing in Sweden, but abuses women, children, Jews and homosexuals shall be relieved of the burden of tax money support (7 years of it on average).
Also I loved the "OUR taxpayer money" given that 60-65% of islamic working age citizens of Malmö are unemployed and are actually feeding on these taxes like locust (SVT, 2011). I tend to believe that these statistics are not so different for the entire area of Sweden.
He is protected, because your buddy "peace lovers" tried to break into his house with axes (common argumentation of your comrades in faith), so I prefer to take the support money from your axe wielding masses and give Vilks all the protection he may require and still say what is on his mind.
I would not give them all that cred. Yes I am sure that this is what the fundematalistic ones following the Sharia are aspiring to do but if they had the capacity or the brains it would already have been done. The problem is that Sweden has such a complex being scared of being called anything with -ism (Racism, fascism, male masochism..I can go on) and we are being to week not to be taken the absolutely Mickey out of due to that. I wish we could at least mix our immigrants with Muslims from countries that does not come from the worst dictated backward countries. This is what is feeding racism as the only Muslims Sweden know are the real fundamentalistic ones.. Not a realistic view of the average Muslim. We need to come to the conclusion ourselves that ist is not racist not to be a free meal for the etire thirld world. What you put up with is what you will end up with.
Ironic then that it's the peace loving Muslims who've run the Jews out of Malmo like it's 1938...
You're on the wrong side of the analogy.
Well said. Was the French paper Charlie Hebdo? If so, I, too will subscribe.
Always liked them anyway.
You either believe in freedom of speech or freedom of religion, or you don't. I believe Sweden does not. I'm an American Jew who is a political Conservative. I live in rural Northern Minnesota. I love Swedish Americans; finest kind.
But I can tell you that I would not feel safe, as a Jew, visiting Sweden nowadays, and I believe it will get worse. You folks have got to learn to defend your rights or they WILL be taken from you. Name one decently Democratic Islamic country with freedom of religion where religious minorities feel perfectly safe nowadays. Name one where gays feel safe.
The Baroness is correct. I would STRONGLY recommend that every Swede read Kipling's "The Gods of the Copybook Headings."
G-d Bless and good luck. (By the way, strongly think about legalizing kosher meats---the Rabbinic inspection for signs of disease in animals is stronger than what Sweden does. Jews, as you know, are fairly good on medical issues---we've won over a quarter of all Nobels in Medicine, despite the fact that Sweden's population and the world Jewish population are roughly similar. In fact, think about making Swden more Jew friendly if you want Sweden to do better.)