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With foreign student enrollment down after the introduction of tuition fees, Swedish universities are urging the government to provide more scholarships to help attract non-European students to Sweden.
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Now you are talking about granting more scholarships. Thats even more interesting. That would probably cost more than the previous no-tuition system.
First, you hit at somebody's head very hard, and than pay for his medical treatment for years. Sounds familiar ?
Ps. I am not referring to Swedish medical system where you don't get anything for free, but other medical system where you get 'some' treatment when you pay. :D
You are a hundred times better off going to Germany or the UK. Plenty of housing there, plenty of work, and in Germany case, way cheaper universities.
I am an EU citizen and came here only because it was free. But now I regret it bitterly. I would have rather paid a symbolic amount (300-900 euros) to a German universities and have work and where to live, or get a loan from the UK government and study there, because: I would rather work and pay my debt than not work at all and have no money.
Also, the UK has the advantage that it's an English speaking country, where you already know the language for both study and work.
Germany in other terms, even if you need to learn the language, is much more profitable with it's 90+ million speakers (not counting in Austria and Switzerland) as opposed to the mere 9 million Swedish speakers.
Considering the housing situation and other problems: Wouldn't it be a good idea to fix those at first so Swedish and other European students could find a good situation to study? After this goal is reached they could still try to get more students from Europe/around the world.
Anyway, I as a "core European white person" could imagine to study in Sweden.
Exactly. Why else would anybody want to study in Sweden?
At least the Swedish taxpayers are now rid of all those freeloaders.
for telecom sector and for software engineering sector, sweden is a good choice, better than UK US for many asian students.
And as for swedish tax payers, well they will still be paying in terms of scholarship! so no big difference!
If someone thinks that scholarship will change the whole idea , he or she is wrong. If the universities had to consider the merit, they would have done it even when education was free, also when applications were coming in high numbers.
WIth scholarship, i dont understand how it will change the merit criteria!!! as now from a smaller pool of applications they will need to select the best (no different from before but previously they had more applications thus better chances of fetching better students)
And by the way, just because you don't understand the strategy of swedish govt and universities, doesn't mean that sending students back is a bad idea. Many PhD students who went back to india, pakistan and china, are now collaborating with the peers in sweden. Thus the area of research and quality of research is growing. Experiments that can not be conducted in controlled environment such as of sweden, and with such low number of subjects, can now easily be conducted in other countries, with the researchers collaborating directly with swedish universities!
But then again, you guys will never understand this.
What I find interesting is that Sweden is completely mental on immigration. They just made it the immigration laws even easier, and that is going to cost more than allowing no tuition fees with no extra benefits.
All this in name of diversity, but when talking about foreign students who can contribute to Sweden afterwards, then Swedes don't care.
There are some poorly informed people who think that Sweden lose more than she gains when foreign (non-EU) students come and study here. It is a win-win situation when people come here to study. No foreign students are freeloaders. Whether they leave or stay in Sweden after their studies they will always be resourceful to Sweden.
Remember this: no students, no teachers. We should be thankful that people choose to come study here. More and more international students are going to Asia (in particular China) to get higher education there. It is telling something!?
And Sweden is trying to put them off? Another reminder: international university ranking also depends on the number of international students (not just EU students).
Just a gentle reminder: the SE government is planning to spend billions of SEK in the next few years to help families of refugees reunite in Sweden. That is perhaps a freeloading ?
Also, bring lots and lots of money.
But I also believe the fees went way too high. The level of the education does not fit accordingly the amount of money you spend. Also, the language issue, the housing situation and the limitations in work opportunities does not help. You can charge for education, but charge a reasonable amount. Otherwise you become less competitive.
And like it or not, you need the best students you can get. Many of those students who come do a masters thesis or become PhD students; they help with the research. Research leads to innovation, which pushes a country's competitiveness.
Ceteris Paribus, on average the demand on Swedish orange juice results in annual net revenues of USD 5,000 (or 1,000 people buy orange juice annually), correspondingly the government spends USD 4,000 (let's assume 1% of GDP) on subsidizing orange juice industry. One not so shiny Swedish day, the government takes a close look at orange juice industry and analysis that the industry doesn't generate any profit. Moreover, there is no clearly defined strategy, about how can they (Swedish producers) compete with US or British made orange juices that generate huge profit for its producers. To avoid future, unjustified headaches the government decides to quite subsidizing orange juice industry. As a result of government's inhuman deeds ( )))) the orange juice price jumps to USD 9. What about the demand? No quality improvements or technological break through have occurred, what changed is a price. Now my question to you, would you still buy the Swedish orange juice?
1. Sweden offered free education for years and many foreign students took benefit of it but in 2010 Denmark introduced green card scheme and plenty of students moved to Denmark after completing masters. Sweden created skilled students and Denmark snatched them all. although most of them are not working professionally but at least helping Denmark economy by paying taxes.
2. Sweden has very flexible rules for uneducated asylum seekers e.g Afghanis, Somalians and allow them social benefits, quick permanent residency while most of students after graduating from Sweden go back to their countries because it is not so easy for them to get into the market even in IT and telecom sector.
They say they require skilled people to help grow their economy but they have very stupid rules for skilled people graduating from swedish universities.
They are actually very diplomatic like typical Swedish girl :) . They don't do what they really say and they don't say what they want to do.