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With voters in the United States heading to the polls on Tuesday, Republicans in Sweden reflect on Mitt Romney's chances and the challenges of living in a country that doesn't always appreciate their point of view.
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It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that, although I do have a degree from a top 10 US university. And I'm an American, by the way.
Which party would have lunatics who think that there's something call "legitimate rape". ANSWER: The Republican Party.
Which party would have crazy extreme religious fundamentalist who claims that "rape is God's plan". ANSWER: The Republican Party.
Actions and facts speak louder than words. It doesn't matter what Fox News has been preaching, it manifests at a glance that the Republican party is just a bunch of extremists who preach nothing but hatred. Look at their platform. It's all about discrimination and hatred. Nothing more.
I would say the average Swede, is against both, for different reasons. Obama, failed in everything he claimed, but he is slightly saving the USA from a recession which has a big trade benefit to Europe. But he lost credibility when he won the Noble prize.
Romney, might do more for the USA business, and USA interests, but he is more likely to forceful abroad, which will bring many more war refugees to Europes shores. Oh yeah, and he is god squad through and through.
I won't want to bet on who is going to win, but I am relying on European news reports, so our media could easily be angled differently to the truth.
growing their businesses with the minimum of government intervention. As Bill Clinton said "it's the economy stupid." They are not caught up in the political side show of social issues. President Obama has not demonstrated a grasp of economic issues so most of the Swedes I know who became citizen's are voting for Romney.
fikatid went to a top 10 university!
Well, color me unimpressed because what fikatid got was an indoctrination, not an education. Truly educated people develop a bit of humility and respect as they come to discover just how much they don't know and don't fully understand.
The indoctrinated, other hand, sound much more like fikatid , with their undisciplined, emotional, self-righteous, and shrill rants and their childish caricatures.
As the saying goes, 'Ignorance of one's own ignorance is the malady of the ignorant' .
That aside, the article is pretty good. I only disagree with Mr McCormac in the result of the election. Americans will not choose four more years of the same - it's simply unsustainable. The crowd turnout at the candidates respective rallies tells the story: Romney will win this one.
It a pity that you cannot separate individual opinions from a party`s idiology . Very soon , you might conclude that the Democratic party is a party of drug bangers just because a few prominent members of that party ( including a former President ) have / had that habit .
It's a bit like the UK's Lib Dems, for decades they were the 3rd party with zero hope of power, so in their speeches they claimed they could cure all and deliver all, to all the people. Then suddenly they are in power and have a say, the reality of those bigs speeches is harder to live up to!
If Romney had toned himself down a bit, but still showed the business & financial knowledge he almost certainly has, I suspect he could have taken Obama with a landslide victor, hurricane or not.
Anyway, Romney is toast, unfortunately for the americans. Opinion polls dont lie. And neither does ladbrokes.
To me its surprising how the americans can prefere a mediocre european style socialist with a tin ear to the american soul. Over an extraordinary man such as Romney. But their country, their choice.
Also rotten luck for african americans to be represented by such an unamerican and mediocre man. Its not like there is a lack of impressive african americans they could have had instead, if their luck had been better.
For us Swedes, i think a world economy that gets a helping nudge into the abyss by another four Obama years might be a beneficial evil. Our arrogance have to be purged by hardships and deprevations on a truly faustian level. Our rot goes deep, it will take strong medicine to cure us.
This US election is most about brainwashing. Can the parties con the lower functioning voter to elect them. The 2008 election was the novelty of a 'black' or 'minority' president. Obama is a well educated (top ten) politician from Chicago, where dishonesty and fraud are a tradition. He is a great guy who is in over his head and really dominated by a 'progressive' inner circle.
Romney is strictly business and conservative religious upbringing. He is someone who would always follow his values. Visit Utah and look around at the organization and infra structure that produces a great state, much like Sweden and Norway.
Who will win? No idea. Here if you play the cards as they are dealt, you will always prosper by your own toil. If you expect the government to care for you, you are in trouble.
You have a degree from a top 10 university? With fallacious reasoning like that no one would ever suspect it.
Wow. A Republican said something stupid. I'm shocked. And that means they all or even a significant number think the same thing?
Meanwhile just last week a prominent Democrat, the guy Obama chose to give the benediction at his inaugaration, said all white people are going to hell and chastised any n____ who didn't get out and vote for Obama.
Are you going to apply your standard to that remark as well? Ooops. I forgot. Standards are only for others. The self-anointed enlightened are exempt because of their wonderfulness.
Look at the voting map. Why do people in the metropolitan areas tend to vote for the Democrats (e.g. NYC, Chicago, LA, San Francisco, Seattle)?? FYI, the major financial centers are located in NYC, Chicago and SF. These are "business" centers. Or the university that you went to didn't teach you what businesses are? And where are the majority of the red-states? Well, they are mostly in the Bible Belt. Why? Unfortunately, most Americans from the Bible Belt are so ignorant and naive that they can be easily manipulated by Fox News or their pastors, just like @Roy E and @Jes. You really need to go back to a real school if I were you. Home schooling doesn't count.
Why do most people in the metropolitan areas or in the coastal regions tend to vote for the Democrats? Well, it's because people in major metropolitan areas or in the coastal region tend to have more interactions with people from different countries and backgrounds other than just Americans. In addition, a higher percentage of the people in coastal region or big city like Chicago, tend to have traveled more often than those in the red-states. In fact, many people in the red-states have never even been outside of their own states. That explains their narrow-mindedness.
I think you Romney supporters need to get a real degree from real university.
Wait...WHAT?? Uh, Don Baldwin, I think you need to do a bit more research about the country you live in before you open your mouth again in public. You have been here 13 years and you think Sweden is a socialist country? Really?
Last time I checked, Sweden was privatized, deregulated and market oriented. Labor movement is freer here than in most countries and civil liberties abound. Free enterprise is the order of the day and such firms as Ikea, H&M, Electrolux, Volvo and many others attest to this. Saab was allowed to fail according to market forces instead of being propped up by the Swedish government. Just because we have a publicly funded welfare safety net does not make us socialist. Even America has publicly funded schools, healthcare and infrastructure functions. The Swedish model is not Socialism; it is capitalism done better.
At no point in Sweden's history was Socialism ever used as an official descriptor of the nation's sociopolitical system. Mr. Baldwin, you must be confusing Sweden with Laos, Cuba, China or Vietnam...which doesn't do much to boost your credibility on the Republican ideology debate in the article.
Meanwhile at least fikatid obviously excelled in his self-esteem classes.
Hey, fikatid. We're so stupid out here in fly over country that my always Republican state in national elections has a balanced budget, no debt, fully funded state pension liability, and 4% unemployment.
How are you really smart Democrats doing in California, New York, and Illinois? In case you don't know, which seems likely, you have large deficits, massive debt, looming pension shortfalls, and much higher-even double- unemployment.
And what's with the Fox news derangement syndrome? Fox has a conservative bias, but it least it has liberals on all the time-Bob Beckel, Kirstin Powers, Alan Colmes, Juan Williams, Shepherd Smith-just to name a few. Conservatives on the other networks are as rare as imans at a ribfest.
Some people would vote for the devil if he said that he was for Israel, without asking themselves,
"Why would the devil be for Israel? "
Romney has promised that if he wins, he'll kill Obamacare on day one. It looks like killing Obamacare is more urgent than bombing Iran - which he wouldn't be able to do before earliest, sometime in January, if at all.
There are Republicans in Sweden - but not so many...there are Republicans wherever there is hair.
For a surety, the Republicans in Iran are praying for Romney to win and the Mullahs in Iran are also praying ardently, five times a day for Romney to win: This is because with all those ants in his pants Mitt, starting from scratch on the Iran issue is going to waste a lot of time and in no time at all is sure to mess things up in grand "global arrogance" style. First he'll muck up whatever existing alliance - then, as US Supreme leader, bomber-in-chief and King of the global castle, unlike Baby Bush, on the brink of striking unilaterally and without any go-ahead from Russia and China's Security Council, Mighty Mitt won't have Colin Powell to stand up at the UN podium to lie, this time for the serial liar...
We'd have a lot more to worry about the US's Mr. Mighty Mitt muscle and Sherlock Holmes can can thank the stars that the UK is the brain....
Romney-Ryan didnt run on a foreign policy ticket. They ran on a "save money its the economy stupid" ticket. Sure, alot of their money came from the Israeli lobby. But then, thats politics. Both sides are tainted by bad money. Except Ron Paul of course but he didnt go very far :)
Personally im pretty impressed by a guy who gave away 10% of his salary all his life to something else than himself. And still made a fortune. And then went on to give away his inheritance. AND fitted in a successfull governorship. I mean, you just cant accuse a guy like that for greed. Nor for incompetence. Nor for weakness. Nor for stupidity. Which makes it a shame the americans prefer some lackluster lawyer with a silken tongue. Not that its bad for me and mine. Just annoying somehow, to watch something being done badly like.
Please permit me to coin a new proverb which I hope you' wil find agreeable:
" Better a silver tongue than a serial liar"
get read for a stock market crash.
but then there is Benghazi gate......
how do you say "impeach" in Swedish?
"get read for a stock market crash"
The Sydney Stock Exchange went UP, UP, UP on the news.
"Welcome to the United States of Communists or the USSR !!"
Mate you're about 60 years out of date with your McCarthyism. The world has long since moved on [except for some still 18th century American thinking].
Anyway? Lots of red faces here.
Anyways, lots of red faces here. Shame man!!!
you know it makes sense !!!!!!
hehehe LOL
Watching all those rich, elderly, grey-haired, white men realise they have nothing in common with the modern US electorate was almost sad. Almost!
Watching the crowd at Obama's victory speech was something different. Young, intelligent people. About a 50/50 gender mix, one or two visibly gay people, and people of all races and colors mingling; their sexuality, race and color entirely irrelevent.
Thanks America for once again putting on the greatest show on Earth.
OOPS.
This marks the end of the Jewish/ Israeli influence in American politics.
They're just pissed that a Muslim won again.
(Their characterization, not mine.)
It is a clear sign that all the states in which the GOP usually wins are the midwestern ones....not many top 10 univesities there. :)
It is also rather touching to see how concerned democrats on these boards are to help the GOP gain political influence in the future. Such enlightened generousity of spirit to stretch out a hand of advice, goodwill and friendship to the other camp!
Brings tears to my eyes it does.
Then again, there is a small fly in the ointment, at least for us Europeans. With America firmly united into one will, one purpuse, one nation, we will probably see more assertive American intervention in our European affairs in the hard and cruel times ahead. Hamfisted Americans never did understand Europe but were always happy to meddle all the same. Alas, we will have to appreciate the joyfull healing of American society for its own sake, even be it to our own detriment. Humbly following the exalted example of the selfless and generous democrat posters above.
Now we learn that "the most hated Republican candidate " actually got over 49% of American votes . Someone uphere must be wrong,...... right ?
Obama:
"..In addition to minority voters, Obama's majority-making coalition included young voters, highly educated citizens and women..."
Romney:
"...In contrast to Obama's rainbow coalition, Romney's core supporters were older, evangelical and white. The Republican nominee did better among white voters than any Republican since Ronald Reagan in 1984, topping Obama by 20 points, 59 percent to 39 percent. Romney scored particularly well among older white men, white women who have not completed college and rural white male..."
That says it all! :-)
http://www.forbes.com/sites/johnzogby/2012/07/05/demographics-and-the-election-of-2012-age-and-race/
Well, there's not much to do now but brace for the consequences.