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Did a German's bicycle kick outshine Zlatan's?

Published: 17 Nov 12 15:27 CET | Print version
Online: http://www.thelocal.se/44484/20121117/

As the football world continues to gush over Swedish star striker Zlatan Ibrahimovic’s stunning goal against England, a German player has claimed that his triumphant 1977 goal was even better. Watch the videos (below) and chime in with your own views on The Local's Have Your Say.

Klaus Fischer’s goal for Germany against Switzerland was credited as the goal of the century. And although he was full of praise for Zlatan after he scored four goals in the Sweden-England friendly, Fischer said his goal was more technically difficult.

“I watched [Zlatan's] goal on television,” Fischer told the Hamburger Morgenpost newspaper.

“It was sensational – something that makes your heart flutter. You don’t see a goal like that every day, which is why you always remember them,” he said.

“I don’t want to blow my own trumpet, but my backwards kick was more difficult from a technical point of view than Ibrahimovic's."

Klaus Fischer's bicycle kick in a 1977 friendly game between Germany and Switzerland

"With mine, the cross came from the side. I had to hit the goal perfectly from the air, with my back to the goal, and also get past the goalkeeper."

"Zlatan's goal was perhaps more eye-catching, but it was also more straight-forward," claimed Fischer.

Zlatan's 'greatest goal' (and his penalty goal beforehand)

“Zlatan was very far from the goal. But the box was empty. Had he gotten the ball from a defender and not from the goalie he would have certainly not have tried such a thing.”

But was his goal anywhere near the quality of Zlatan's? Or was there another goal in footballing history that trounces both?

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16:27 November 17, 2012 by expatjourno
Two different centuries, two different goals of the century. Personally, I have to go with Zlatan's goal. It was perfectly placed, right next to the post. The other goal was also perfectly placed, but closer in.
17:02 November 17, 2012 by Zaheer
Klaus Fischer's goal was more difficult to execute
21:20 November 17, 2012 by Attestupa
The German goal is special of course, but it is simply not in the same class as Zlatan's goal. The only similarity is that they were both overhead kicks. Zlatan had no time to think.
21:22 November 17, 2012 by prince T
Klaus goal was inside the 20 yard box. Or almost in fron of the goal. It is not new. Zlatan's goal was outside the 20 yard box and he was backing the posst. Zlatan's goal was classic. I dont know why we discuss this goal anyway. Even stephen Gerrad acknowled that the goal was spectacular. English supporters applauded it.
09:59 November 18, 2012 by Engelkott
@Attestupa

Zlatan had time to think, he backed off Joe Hart because he anticipated a poor clearance. In Harts defence he had a bad bounce, he was waiting to hoof it up the pitch.

That aside I'd go with Zlatan's for all the reasons mentioned above even though I hate the guy.
10:52 November 18, 2012 by eppie
Zlatans goal was nice but definitely not the best ever.

Look up best bicycle kicks on youtube and you find dozens that were more difficult.

The greatest about this goal is the distance....really special.

What it missed was a goal keeper in the goal, a faster pass (which makes the timing more difficult) and the fact that it was going in an arc, instead of being a straight fast kick.
12:01 November 18, 2012 by Grokh
The best goal of all time was made by Carlos Alberto Torres in the 1970 world cup.

Brazil holds the ball for several minutes passing and dribling in a marvelous play pele gets the ball , tostao points that Carlos Alberto Torres was coming in on the right side , pele passes the ball without looking and Carlos Alberto Torres comes out of nowhere like a bullet train and scores. an amazing goal filled with teamwork, now thats footbal.

Zlatan goal was pretty but lucky the goalkeeper made a HUGE screw up.

if we are going to say its the best just because it was a bycicle then id prefer Batistutas bycicle in fiorentina.

but even then that was just a really awesome goal not the goal of goals like the one from Carlos Alberto Torres in 1970.

Its like all the people nowadays have short memory of the last 60 years of football when they say stupid stuff like "best of all time this or that".
14:08 November 18, 2012 by RobinHood
The best ever goal!

It's not about how it was scored, it's about when.

An irrelevant goal in a training match just doesn't cut it. It has to be at the end of a cracking final, and it has to be match winner. I't very subjective, but for me, it's Ricky Villa's match winning goal in the FA Cup Final 1981. For Manchester United supporters, it has to be Solsjkeer in Bayern Munich v Manchester United, Champions league final 1999. I expect Aguero's Premier League winner this year must have felt pretty good too if you were a Manchester City fan this year.

Zlatan's goal was pleasant enough for Sweden's supporters, but what goal can possibly match a moment like any of those three, or some other cup final/league match winner?
06:58 November 19, 2012 by prince T
I can see jealousy at play. World wide the goal was adjudged the best goal ever. Even CNN sport analyst think so. England fans are considering naming a stadium atfter him.

http://edition.cnn.com/2012/11/15/sport/football/zlatan-ibrahimovic-sweden-england-football/index.html?hpt=isp_t5

Zlatin Rocks Zlatan is king
17:08 November 19, 2012 by Grokh
bycicle kick was invented by Leônidas da Silva aka the black diamond, a brazilian player from Flamengo in the 1950s, he used to do it NONSTOP.

Zlatans goal although pretty is definitely not the best goal ever, its like people lose their memory and only know what happened last week. The goal from batistuta when he was playing in fiorentina was much cooler because it didnt include the huge screw up from the goalkeeper on the Zlatan goal.

The best goal of all time is from Carlos Alberto Torres against italy in 1970. a perfect goal where almost the entire brazilian team passed the ball around and at the end tostao tells pele Carlos Alberto Torres is coming in from the right side. Pele passes the ball without looking , and Carlos Alberto Torres comes out of nowhere like a bullet train , in the last second the ball bounces up from a grass patch and Carlos Alberto Torres shoots it like a bazooka.

perfect display of teamwork in what is regarded officially as the best national team of all time , they also went on to win that world cup.

in football fans should stop talking about best of this and best of that and take whats good from all.

Funny thing is the goalkeepers screw up is one big screw up and no one is talking about that lol
17:39 November 19, 2012 by paDutch
The German goal was definitely harder to pull off. But that could be done again

Ibrahimovic's goal would be the tougher one to replicate because it so much farther out. Honestly Zlatan got a bit lucky I think.

I'd say Zlatan's is more impressive because of the distance.
15:08 November 20, 2012 by Philip S.
The best goal ever can only be Marco van Basten's drop kick in the 1988 European Championships final. Not only because his shot was from an unbelievable angle, while perfectly in control, but also because this goal wasn't scored in a friendly, but in the most important game of the year.

The same accounts for the bicycle kick of Wayne Rooney a few years ago against Manchester City. This goal has a close resemblance with the Klaus Fischer goal, but was the winning goal (3 - 2) in the penultimate minute of the game in a city derby, in one of the most admired competitions of the world.

Nevertheless Zlatans goal was amazing, and I enjoyed it very much.
09:27 November 21, 2012 by Hisingen
There will always be someone who 'has done it better', and someone who will decry a goal because they don't like the scorer, or - 'they could have done it better themselves'.

Belittlement or envy, or plain pigheadedness. It matters but little.

Could they have done it better themselves?

Of course - - - - -not. Never in a million years. Grow up, get a life, and accept a great goal for what it was - a great goal.
14:28 November 21, 2012 by wallpaper
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