Published: 29 Nov 12 15:52 CET | Print version
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While Swedes boast some of the best English language skills in the world, they are not immune to making a fair number of mistakes. The Local examines where Swedes slip up in English, and why.
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As Abba once sang
"I'll dance with you honey if you think it's funny."
Yes lovaspappa the article is about nothing of interest. Just filling up space.
It's about mispronunciations rather than "errors" in language. The list is endless...
sheep instead of cheap
shirt instead of skirt (surely would have been more fun for the photo editor too)
etc
Personally, I am highly impressed by the standard of english spoken to me whilst in Sweden. I am also highly embarrassed that I am woefully unable to return the compliment by speaking a form of Swedish that does not visibly show as painful on the face of the listener :-)
For instance, I have heard many many times sentences like: I can borrow you my book !
I have taught English to evening groups since 1961, and could produce a much longer list of the errors that can exist. I say can, because the younger generation has had much more practice in English - albeit they get the American English from TV, and that dominates.
All in all The Local must be in search of something to write to drag up something like this - - - - - - - - -
Haha. oh well jokes apart, I guess the purpose of the language is to communicate and to deliver the message as meant to be sent. If some one can do so, without using the correct grammar or convention, then it shouldn't be a problem :)
You would have thought the CEO of a global language training company would have known that.
Having difficulty pronouncing sounds that don't exist in your native language is a very common thing, and no big deal in my opinion. Asians for instance are known to speak "bad English", among other cultures as well. But years of experience dealing with native Asian speakers has led me to the conclusion that there could be a physical factor involved as well. People may KNOW how something is supposed to sound, but as the sound doesn't exist in their native language, and as some sounds may require exercising facial muscles they have never had the need to develop, sometimes their mouths don't obey what their mind tells them to do.
There is another factor as well, sometimes people can't hear a subtle difference. I for one have trouble distinguishing how the "y" and the "i" should be pronounced in Swedish. My teacher tells me there is a big difference, but I can't really hear it.
"I eat some pills" is another one that cracks me up
We all speak OUR own language with higher perfection and speak a second or third language with less fluency and perfection.
Can the English or the American pronounce Sjuk, Sju, etc correctly?
I think, it is really wrong to have a negative opinion about people who speak with a Swedish accent. It is just plan discrimination and offending!
Why do Swedes have to speak English with perfection? Because they demand the perfection in Swedish from immigrants themselves. As soon as you have a slightest accent (rudely called: brytning, as if people break the law), they would have difficulties understanding you and no patience to try to do so.
So they should be treated in the same way when they speak English with an accent.
Swedes in general get confused with the sounds "ch" "sh" and "th". Also, when a word ends with "ed", like in the words looked or stepped, many pronounce it "lok ked" or "step ped" The letters j, g, i, e and y also seem to be tricky for Swedes trying to speak English.
You always hear that almost all Swedes are fluent in English, but I wouldn't really consider that true. I've lived here for over 4 years now, but have only met a handful of people that have been truly fluent. Most can understand a good amount of English, but like many of us here know, understanding another language is much easier than speaking it.
The English cannot pronounce German's umlauts or the Spanish "ll" or "ñ" . Japanese speakers have trouble with "l"s. I don't know ANYBODY who can pronounce "þ". The International Phonetic Alphabet lists 107 letters and 52 diacritics.
No one language uses more than a small subset of these.
There is no shame in mispronouncing words from another language. There IS shame in not learning from your practice and your experience.
I have a co-worker from Pakistan. He has been here 30 years and STILL can't pronounce things properly.
Do you know each and every Swede? Ofcourse every place has all kinds of people.
I have met many Swedes who openly accept that their language is difficult to learn.
most can barely speak one language and the average swede is speaking 2 or 3 or 4.
travelling the world has really put australia and australians into perspective, we are quite an ignorant racist bunch.
in melbourne a few weeks ago a small group of french people were singing a song in french on a bus when they were attacked and violently abused for not speaking english. they threats were extreme and not isolated. middle of the day downtown melbourne. thats the real australia.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/nov/22/racist-bus-attack-victim-australia
I'm an Australian from Melbourne who grew up with a massively ethnically diverse group of friends, I don't have problems with any group on a whole and thankful for it as knowing and learning from many different people and cultures filled me full of intrigue to visit different countries.
On my travels I have not found one country where is not any predjudice towards a diffent ethnic, political or social etc. which says more about humankind than any distinct nation or group of people.
That not saying that I don't prefer to live here in Sweden, I do prefer to live here for more climatical reasons that anything...I love the cold!!! and that the majority of friends live here. I feel more at home here and I love fresh water out of a tap.
All you are doing is propagating stereotypes on to Australians like myself where it is not warranted, and I take great offence to that..
If you have issue please feel free to contact me
self hating?
I would say to visitors to australia dont expect anyone you address to understand any language other than our broken english. cmon, cos, ya know.
in fact if you dont speak english most shop owners will become aggressive and insulting. not a few imbeciles.
Im not sure what you read. perhaps hard hitting material like "what mascara to where with that little black dress" but you should try something new. do you know of australias white australia policy?
or the multitude of bashings and murders of Indian and Korean students and taxi drivers in melbourne?
do you know of the parliaments of both sth korea and india being so concerned they raised the issue with the australian government?
are you familiar with the term "bogan". ie the majority of melbournians.
the mass protests in the streets of melbourne of asian and indians who were scared to walk the streets? how about jill meagher? another mass protest -just a few weeks back - this time to stop violence against women?
cronulla race riots - bash a wog, muslim or asian? young men tattoed with the southern cross and or the australian flag. our sports teams are famous for verbally attacking their opponents.
australians on the hole are crass and very racist.
sweden is not and are a far more relaxed bunch of people.
but the main point is australians barely speak one language and are intolerant of those that dont speak english. where as swedes are very well spoken.
as someone else said - if my swedish was "as bad" as the swedes english I would be a very happy camper.
The name is Ashlito as in male in spanish naming. O for males, A for females.
So no I don't think I'll be reading about mascara..1. because it doesn't go with my baldhead and 2. I already have lovely long lashes.:)
I am also what one in Aus may call a Wog, but don't you use that word as you have already in your last comment. I take great offence at that!! Just repeating what someone else said is not ok and by your sweepingly generalized last comment you have made any valid points that you may have had moot.
Yes the southern cross thing is quite stupid as even in Brazil for example you can see the southern cross, Australian does not have dominion over it.
I did notice the silly ultranationalism that arose while I was away in Australia, my wife and I both thought it was extremely misguided and very ultraconservative American-esque. Not what I was used to when I was growing up in Melbourne